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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:02 PM Jun 2021

So the FL city says the condo board is responsible for the collapse.

Why would anyone want to be on a condo board if they would be held personally responsible for a disaster like this? Are members of these boards paid substantial, or any, compensation?

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So the FL city says the condo board is responsible for the collapse. (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2021 OP
Not that I know of. karynnj Jun 2021 #1
Those that I'm familiar with are very much like home owner's associations. They meet to make hlthe2b Jun 2021 #2
This is the way our small (36 townhouses) works. HUAJIAO Jun 2021 #4
You can still be sued as an individual JenniferJuniper Jun 2021 #13
Typically it's a volunteer position. The manager may Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #3
It very well may be Effete Snob Jun 2021 #5
Insurance companies will be declaring Chapter 11 over this FakeNoose Jun 2021 #6
Not when I was on one. Liberal In Texas Jun 2021 #7
Condo Board should not be personally... AZ_Latina Jun 2021 #8
Napoleon-complex stillcool Jun 2021 #9
So the FL city says the condo board is responsible for the collapse FelineOverlord Jun 2021 #10
I don't know about condo boards, but HOAs around here are very political. Baitball Blogger Jun 2021 #11
Is the condo board alive? Chicago1980 Jun 2021 #12
Interesting atreides1 Jun 2021 #14
Surfside is trying to deflect attention Ritabert Jun 2021 #15

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
1. Not that I know of.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jun 2021

I suspect the city is playing hot potato, passing blame they could get because they did inspect.

Not to mention which condo board? People likely were voted on and off every year.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
2. Those that I'm familiar with are very much like home owner's associations. They meet to make
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jun 2021

decisions, but the day-to-day management is typically contracted out. They are voted in by all the homeowners. They will have insurance against personal liability as a group, most likely and be covered UNLESS there is evidence of fraud or intentional negligence.

HUAJIAO

(2,397 posts)
4. This is the way our small (36 townhouses) works.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jun 2021

I am on the HOA board of directors. We used to do the management ourselves, but we now contract out the actual management work. We individually are not liable unless, as you say there is evidence of fraud or intentional negligence.

JenniferJuniper

(4,515 posts)
13. You can still be sued as an individual
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jun 2021

Because you can sue anyone in this country for any reason.

Someone on a condo board will typically be covered by the association's master insurance policy for liability. Not sure about HOAs.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
3. Typically it's a volunteer position. The manager may
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jun 2021

be paid. Technically, they are correct. The same way it’s your fault if your house falls down. That being said, the lack of regulated oversight is criminal. My guess is this is an attempt by the city to minimize their exposure. It’s clear there needs to be state regulations to ensure this doesn’t happen again.
Sadly, the current members most likely perished. Most boards have a requirement to be a full-time resident.

FakeNoose

(32,756 posts)
6. Insurance companies will be declaring Chapter 11 over this
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jun 2021

Get your claims in quickly folks, the insurance companies will be DOA before you know it. Makes me wonder which banks are holding mortgages on those condos?

Liberal In Texas

(13,576 posts)
7. Not when I was on one.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jun 2021

It's a thankless job with more political infighting than your average city council meeting.

There needs to be regulations requiring associations to keep a contingency fund to do emergency/major repairs. And more regulations for more frequent inspections.

But regulation is a dirty word to the GQP so good luck on that happening. Even if another one of these concrete house of cards pancakes and kills more people.


AZ_Latina

(20 posts)
8. Condo Board should not be personally...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jun 2021

...responsible. The board is elected by the members of the association. The responsibility falls on the association and its membership, the homeowners. Homeowners pay assessments to cover operating expenses (i.e., insurance, utilities, landscape maintenance, pool maintenance, etc.). A portion of the assessments should be placed in a Reserve account to cover future capital expenses (i.e., replacement of pool equipment, re-roofing, building infrastructure, etc.). Having a Reserve Study helps the board make informed decisions when preparing the annual budget. Please keep in mind that responsibility is determined in the governing documents (CC&R, Bylaws, Articles of Incorporation, etc.). Homeowners should take the time to read the documents when considering the purchase of property in a Homeowners association.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. Napoleon-complex
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:40 PM
Jun 2021

give someone a little power, and sometimes they can't help themselves. But I don't think anyone knows where the blame lies, yet. Maybe not ever. Paid to say spokespeople for all parties will have dueling accusations.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
11. I don't know about condo boards, but HOAs around here are very political.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jun 2021

The condominiums have much stricter rules. The HOA rules are worthless to protect the homeowners, if there is a political force in the community.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
14. Interesting
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jun 2021

Are they still responsible if they were following the letter of the law?

I've been watching the news about the building collapse...and I've noticed that there has been very little said about the laws that are in place!

Ritabert

(669 posts)
15. Surfside is trying to deflect attention
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jun 2021

...from their former head building official who downplayed condo board concerns over the 2018 report from Morabito as to serious deficiencies. Everybody involved will be trying to deflect responsibility.

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