General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn Blow to GOP Narrative, Missouri Cut to Jobless Benefits Not Boosting Hiring
In Blow to GOP Narrative, Missouri Cut to Jobless Benefits Not Boosting Hiring
"It's almost as if the pandemic unemployment benefits weren't the issue."
JAKE JOHNSON, STAFF WRITER
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/28/blow-gop-narrative-missouri-cut-jobless-benefits-not-boosting-hiring
June 28, 2021
"SNIP.....
The Republican narrative that enhanced unemployment benefits are dissuading people from returning to workand that cutting off the aid is necessary to boost hiringis running up against reality in the GOP-led state of Missouri, where officials have yet to see any significant increase in job applicants since the governor cut off pandemic-related federal programs last month.
"There may be areas where some employers are struggling to staff positions, but the likely obstacle is not overly generous UI benefitsinstead it is wage offerings that are too low to make these jobs attractive."
David Cooper, Economic Policy Institute
The New York Times reported Sunday that Missouri workforce development personnel "said they had seen virtually no uptick in applicants since the governor's announcement, which ended a $300 weekly supplement to other benefits."
"And the online job site Indeed found that in states that have abandoned the federal benefits, clicks on job postings were below the national average," the Times noted.
......SNIP"
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Sunday morning I was getting dressed to meet my friend for lunch, finishing my coffee walking around, had MSNBC on in background. They were interviewing some employer, I think a restaurant owner, and she was saying how she was coming out of the pandemic fine, her employees were all coming back, she was raising their pay and "letting them keep all their tips." I almost spit my coffee. She seemed nice but thinks this is a great concession - letting her employees keep their tips. Twenty years ago this wouldn't even have been an issue, but some restaurant owners have become so stingy over the years that they were taking a share of the employees tips. Of course, I haven't eaten out much lately but for at least the past 10 years I try to make sure I tip in cash to help a waiter keep as much as possible of a tip. If there is an up side to this pandemic, it's that maybe there might be a bit of a rebalancing of wage power here.
applegrove
(118,816 posts)power and a middle class immerged over the next few hundred years. Labour was in short supply.
BigmanPigman
(51,636 posts)He said that after the Black Plague employees finally got some clout for the first time in hundreds of years. The rich are too damn greedy and uncaring and have been since the dawn of time.
applegrove
(118,816 posts)And then cerfs would have been freer to move to the city and do a long apprenticeship and learn a trade.... i would guess that would have led to the middle class. But i'm only guessing.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)I had friends who actually bragged that their employer asked them for their cell phone number. When I asked if they were getting overtime for being on call when they weren't at work, I would get a "huh?" from them. I would explain that it might make them feel important but they were giving their employer access to their personal time for free. Sometimes they understood what happened, but some sadly still didn't understand that it was giving even more power to the boss who rarely appreciated it, but would take advantage if they could.
JI7
(89,276 posts)on . They also work all day for little and still struggle to pay the bills.
Many have found work they can do in the "gig economy" . And they find there isn't that much difference between low wage jobs working all day and gigs where the work isn't always reliable but they do get paid more . Some might have even gotten lucky and found they can get more work and more pay.
There might be some better jobs out there that some have found. Some took some classes or whatever else to get skills for certain jobs.
There are other jobs which pay the same but the job is just better for the workers .
applegrove
(118,816 posts)them retireing.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)about retiring when covid hit decided they were done. IMHO that led to promotions and raises for those under them and those folks quit the second jobs they had worked to make ends meet. Lots of restaurants/bars have staff that only work nights and weekends when they are busier.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)via the ACA and to medicaid. Plenty of people stay in jobs they don't like just for insurance coverage. Now with increased subsidies, that may no longer be a barrier to looking for a better job.
MichMan
(11,981 posts)What about other benefits like heath insurance or workers comp?
My wife worked as an independent contractor for a couple years. We had to pay 15% of her compensation to the IRS for SS & Medicare
DemocraticPatriot
(4,428 posts)Same as having your own business... but of course, you are usually in total control of when you work, and for how long.
Hekate
(90,840 posts)cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)Both of those are not appealing especially when its a job where you are expected to smile at a customer while you are panicking over how you will pay the rent and feed your kids.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)it becomes a 'why bother' situation. And the gig economy while not great offers alternatives. I saw signs when taking my daughter to her car...that factories were paying $18.00 an hour and there is lots of overtime and benefits. Certain jobs will not restaff until they pay up in terms of wages and benefits.
Cheezoholic
(2,040 posts)Indiana is a "right to work" BS state. Indiana has consistently had some of the lowest unemployment numbers in the country over the last decade. However the median household income has roughly been around 15-20% less than the national average. The COLA in Indiana is in the lower 20 percentile nationwide but like many states that have 1 or 2 large concentrations of population in larger cities with the rest spread out in smaller cities and towns that number is skewed. Indiana also ranks in the top 5 in infant mortality AND mortality for the mother, strange for a state that brags about it's universities and companies that specialize in health care.
I think it's important that people understand what these states are taking away. Most people think its just the extra 300 dollars but it's not. They are taking away the extended unemployment benefits also. And even those benefits are not the full unemployment benefits a person could get. They go off of what your original claim gave you. In Indiana you have to make roughly 35-40k a year before filing to get the full 370 dollars a week pre tax. Anything less and your weekly amount drops The average weekly payout is 225 dollars/week pre tax in Indiana currently without the extra 300. Indiana's current unemployment rate is around 4.2%. The rate in Nov. of 2019 was around 3.8. The Indiana DWD said in May there were roughly 265k people drawing unemployment from all programs including about 100k on the federal PUA and PEUC programs, with an estimated 160k jobs available. The average hourly pay for those jobs is 12/hr with only 60% offering full time. I can't find stats on benefits but I'm sure it's less than 10%. The governor chose to end those 2 programs along with the additional 300 dollars the 19th of this month. That means as of this week roughly 100k people lost access to any money at all, not just the extra 300. They also lost access to health insurance at little to no cost as that was part of Bidens relief bill, that anyone drawing unemployment could get health insurance at very little to no cost after 6/1/21.
BTW these programs cost the state 0 dollars, literally 0 dollars AND ALSO Indiana received over 2.5 billion from the FED to update the state DWD's systems and for training and hiring of additional staff to deal with the larger numbers of unemployed during the pandemic. Guess where most of that cash went. The state hired a private contractor NAVIENT to handle the increase in phone work and to audit those filing for unemployment. I have a BA and tried to go to work for the DWD, they sent me to NAVIENT!! Disgraceful.
My points concerning this state is first of all how come, when in Nov. of 2019 when the unemployment rate was slightly less than it is now, the state chamber of commerce wasn't screaming that businesses are closing because the state is paying to many people unemployment. I didn't see hundreds of businesses closing then for lack of help. I also didn't see low wage job offers at Micky D's or some of these slave factories we have in this state yelling they are offering 12 bucks an hour (WooHoo!). They were perfectly happy paying 8 or 9 back then. Trust me there are tons of these places in this state.
Secondly, it's roughly 80 days left before the extended benefits expire. Less than 3 months. School starts then enabling some parents to take day jobs. It's estimated Indiana will require another 1.8 billion from the FED to pay those programs thru the deadline. But wait, they got 2.5 billion to deal with all this and never hired a soul? Gave most of it to a 3rd party contractor?
Thirdly, and I think most intelligent beings will agree, this state and the other 25 repuke states doing this, it's nothing but a political ploy. It's straight out of the Reagan look tough on "lazy bastards" 101 playbook, it's always good for votes and, more importantly, cash in the campaign coffers from the business end. I would bet my house that no state will see an employment uptick of any significance in their job numbers because unemployment is not keeping people from working any more now than it was 2 years ago. It is cruel bullying and at it's deepest root racist. Because, at least in Indiana, the words spoken under breath are the lazy minorities are alive and strong and milking your tax dollars for a free ride.
Lastly is the ingrained ignorance of people and how they will inhale a soundbite like a starving crappie will inhale something shiny in early spring. I have a friend of over 50 years who drove all the way to Indy to one of the first outdoor concerts down there since before the pandemic. When I asked how it was he said it was great but he couldn't believe how many places were out of business because they couldn't find anyone to work. He's not a Trumper but he's also not very political. He usually votes Democrat when he votes. I asked how do you know it was because they couldn't find workers? Places were closed for nearly a year during this pandemic and a lot of them didn't have the capital to survive. His response was that's what everyone is saying, everybody lost their business because nobody will go back to work. Everyone's saying it, where have I heard that before.
ProfessorGAC
(65,213 posts)MissMillie
(38,583 posts)and won't be there in 3 months
and has no benefits (sick time, health insurance, family leave)
and offers absolutely no possibility of advancement.
(/SARCASM)
Arazi
(6,829 posts)There's some percentage in there who will never return.
I'm always surprised this isn't brought up more often.
Oh and with Republicans, the cruelty is part of cutting people off. They enjoy inflicting pain on the poor and suffering. Need to keep reminding folks of that too
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)Their options. It's a kind of passive aggressive General Strike for higher wages.
crickets
(25,983 posts)for a job that pays a living wage. To hire them, you have to show you will PAY THEM.
maxsolomon
(33,411 posts)Sloth is a Deadly Sin and punishment must be meted.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,428 posts)to their state's economy....
I weep crocodile tears over their misfortune.