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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 01:49 PM Jul 2021

Demolition of remaining Florida condo structure expected within 36 hours; collapse death toll rises

SURFSIDE, Fla. — Florida officials on Saturday abruptly moved up plans to demolish the remaining part of a Miami area that condo collapsed on June 24, as the threat of a secondary collapse of the damaged structure looms, potentially endangering rescue crews.

Meanwhile, officials said the death toll from the collapse increased overnight to 24 victims, and 124 people remain missing.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a Saturday news conference that the state will pay for all costs of the demolition, which he said should take place within 36 hours. He said officials believe the building can come down before Tropical Storm Elsa is expected to bring strong winds and heavy rainfall to the area early next week.

Governor Ron DeSantis said the tower will likely be brought straight down using some type of explosive charge.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-condo-collapse-demolition-remaining-152513824.html

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Demolition of remaining Florida condo structure expected within 36 hours; collapse death toll rises (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
It's so very sad MerryHolidays Jul 2021 #1
+100 Thanks. abqtommy Jul 2021 #2
It so true jimfields33 Jul 2021 #6
Demolition shields are normally put in place to catch debris. Blue_true Jul 2021 #11
This building is not in not in Miami. Or Miami Beach. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #23
Will anyone buy an ocean front condo in Miami now? Cicada Jul 2021 #3
It will depend on the reason for the collapse. former9thward Jul 2021 #4
People still build in California and the state has fires and earthquakes jimfields33 Jul 2021 #7
Those can be planned for. Blue_true Jul 2021 #12
Rising seawater is something that can be predicted. Lancero Jul 2021 #27
I believe I know why no one ordered it evacuated and condemned. Blue_true Jul 2021 #28
Insurance companies should refuse to issue anymore policies. alphafemale Jul 2021 #10
My guess is Florida will change it's building standards to account for new realities. Blue_true Jul 2021 #13
Much of FL being under water soon is an accepted fact. alphafemale Jul 2021 #19
Troubled times, but on the bright side, the Earth will be ok. Blue_true Jul 2021 #21
As a planet? Yeah. Slough us off as a bad experiment. alphafemale Jul 2021 #22
Get rid of bad trash company and maybe next time something better will evolve. Blue_true Jul 2021 #26
Are they talking about that one tall tower that did not collpase? W_HAMILTON Jul 2021 #5
I believe every part of that structure that is still standing will be brought down. That Blue_true Jul 2021 #15
meanwhile the mortgage payments are still due on the 1st nt msongs Jul 2021 #8
Yep. They took out a loan. They must pay it back. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #24
Yes they want it down before TS Elsa malaise Jul 2021 #9
That's why they are bringing it down 'controlled' Strelnikov_ Jul 2021 #14
They are doing the right thing malaise Jul 2021 #16
Yes, they are. Strelnikov_ Jul 2021 #18
Agree re precious stuff malaise Jul 2021 #20
I've been through 9 Hurricanes in 4 states. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #25
Are any lawsuits going after the Development Company? Blue_true Jul 2021 #17

jimfields33

(15,908 posts)
6. It so true
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 04:08 PM
Jul 2021

I’m glad they are knocking it down. I do worry about debris hitting windows all over Miami.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Demolition shields are normally put in place to catch debris.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 08:56 PM
Jul 2021

It is a good idea to bring the other part down. Don’t need it falling uncontrolled with rescue crews working right next to it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. This building is not in not in Miami. Or Miami Beach.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jul 2021

It’s in a different city.

And if the uncontrolled and unexpected collapse of 2/3s of the building caused no extraneous damage, this won’t either. It’s not a big explosion. But a planned dropping of a building.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
3. Will anyone buy an ocean front condo in Miami now?
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

This building collapse will cause more economic harm than any hurricane ever has.

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
4. It will depend on the reason for the collapse.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jul 2021

We don't know that yet. Yes, there has been no end of speculation but no proof on any of it.

Lancero

(3,011 posts)
27. Rising seawater is something that can be predicted.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:03 AM
Jul 2021

Seawater doesn't eat through concrete and rebar overnight. (Well, unless we're talking about hurricanes here but that's another issue entirely) Meanwhile, a wildfire can devastate miles of land in a hour.

Frankly, this is more a case of shoddy maintenance than anything. No one gave enough of a damn to repair the damage the sea water caused - And if the building was truly beyond repair, then why did no one care enough to order it evacuated and condemned?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. I believe I know why no one ordered it evacuated and condemned.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:11 AM
Jul 2021

The building had million dollar homes in it, some owned by people with connections.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
10. Insurance companies should refuse to issue anymore policies.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 08:52 PM
Jul 2021

That would take awhile.

But it would be a start.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. My guess is Florida will change it's building standards to account for new realities.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:01 PM
Jul 2021

In California, building codes take earthquakes into account and my guess is that state in updating it’s codes to account for more frequent wildfires.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
19. Much of FL being under water soon is an accepted fact.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jul 2021

Wild fires and earthquakes are still a crap shoot.

There are barrier islands in FL where the Insurance company just refused to rewrite the policies.

Ferdinand Beach maybe. Or near it. Several miles of ghost town beach front property.

Just let nature reclaim it.

The barrier islands are there to act as a hurricane buffer. Not live on them.

With Miami beach and the other ridiculously over developed barrier islands on he east coast I do realize this will take a very long time.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Troubled times, but on the bright side, the Earth will be ok.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 10:30 PM
Jul 2021

Can’t say that we have not earned what is headed our way.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. Get rid of bad trash company and maybe next time something better will evolve.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:56 PM
Jul 2021

The Earth has around 4 billion years left, plenty of time. Us, we will be lucky to live a fraction of the time the Dinosaurs lived on Earth.

W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
5. Are they talking about that one tall tower that did not collpase?
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jul 2021

Or are they talking about some un-collapsed portion of the main towers that have already mostly (?) collapsed?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. I believe every part of that structure that is still standing will be brought down. That
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jul 2021

is what I am hearing.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Yep. They took out a loan. They must pay it back.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:47 PM
Jul 2021

I’d imagine lots of bankruptcy lawyers are busy about now.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
14. That's why they are bringing it down 'controlled'
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jul 2021

versus letting a TS decide which way it drop.

Controlled demolition rarely seems to go bad.



Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
18. Yes, they are.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jul 2021

Over the years I have really gained respect for the outfits that do that work. I have participated on a couple 'drops' for damaged bridges.

I hope they are doing something to at least let the occupant's of the condo's still standing remove their most precious processions.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. I've been through 9 Hurricanes in 4 states.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 11:54 PM
Jul 2021

Elsa will have almost no effect on Southeast Florida unless it turns. Even then it will just be a lot of rain.
Which we can always use with our sandy soil.

Unless you live in low, poorly drained areas like Houston, tropical storms are no problem.

40 MPH gusts? We get that almost daily in our afternoon thunderstorms.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Are any lawsuits going after the Development Company?
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jul 2021

From what I have read, the building was poorly planned in terms of dealing with water (rain, floods, seawater from storms, ect)

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