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applegrove

(118,778 posts)
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:53 PM Jul 2021

Massie Says Soldiers Will Go AWOL Over Vaccinations

Massie Says Soldiers Will Go AWOL Over Vaccinations

July 5, 2021 at 5:17 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 62 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/07/05/massie-says-soldiers-will-go-awol-over-vaccinations/

"SNIP......

“Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) tweeted that members of the U.S. military have contacted him saying they will ‘quit’ if forced to get a COVID-19 vaccine,” the Louisville Courier-Journal reports,

“Others on the platform informed Massie that members of the armed forces cannot simply ‘quit’ the military.”

.....SNIP"

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Massie Says Soldiers Will Go AWOL Over Vaccinations (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2021 OP
good riddance. we had to take lots of vaccines as military dependents when I was a kid, msongs Jul 2021 #1
+1. I hear you. There were shots for things unheard of or not. yonder Jul 2021 #11
Agree, but doubt the numbers who would follow through. Hortensis Jul 2021 #13
Typical GQP statement "I get calls about..." SharonClark Jul 2021 #2
LOL Skittles Jul 2021 #3
Great, let's require vaccinations for police departments!! aeromanKC Jul 2021 #4
Made me laugh. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #32
Massie doesn't know what he's talking about ornotna Jul 2021 #5
My take on that, too. Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #29
Nobody's going AWOL over a damn shot or two. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2021 #6
That's also an excellent point. Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #30
Mandatory inoculation of the COVID vaccine in the Armed Forces struggle4progress Jul 2021 #7
Bullshit ismnotwasm Jul 2021 #8
any soldier who would go AWOL over a Covid vaccine DBoon Jul 2021 #9
Agree. SharonClark Jul 2021 #10
They would be the type willing to hand over state secrets to someone offering them bullwinkle428 Jul 2021 #20
Dishonorable discharges will fly xmas74 Jul 2021 #12
You would not get a DD for going AWOL sarisataka Jul 2021 #23
Rumors are all over the local base that they xmas74 Jul 2021 #28
I remember being in boot camp during Just Cuz sarisataka Jul 2021 #36
Double post nt sarisataka Jul 2021 #37
Oh JHC... what a stupid thing to say. Since when did any solider that's about to deploy overseas PortTack Jul 2021 #14
My brother was poked prodded and stuck before flying off to 'nam. Norbert Jul 2021 #15
Which proves them criminals not soldiers. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #16
Trump's shaman was kicked out of the Navy for refusing an anthrax vaccine. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #17
Good riddance. The Navy dodged a bullet by getting rid of that one. nt crickets Jul 2021 #18
Good. The ones who disobey orders can be discharged dawg day Jul 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #21
Actually, since plague can be used as a bio weapon, a vaccine would be wise elias7 Jul 2021 #27
If true, then they don't have "the right stuff" to be in the military. Greybnk48 Jul 2021 #22
Why aren't they vaccinated already? n/t EndlessWire Jul 2021 #24
They should leave They are probably the same ones luckone Jul 2021 #25
Which is stupid because my son n law Tree Lady Jul 2021 #26
I doubt many would risk jail over a vaccine. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #31
Good! kentuck Jul 2021 #33
"Some people say..." Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #34
Massey opens republican mouth, let's stupid out. GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #35

msongs

(67,441 posts)
1. good riddance. we had to take lots of vaccines as military dependents when I was a kid,
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jul 2021

polio, yellow fever, smallpox. it was required to live on base in some places the old man was sent

yonder

(9,674 posts)
11. +1. I hear you. There were shots for things unheard of or not.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:34 PM
Jul 2021

Adding to the fun, we were poked and prodded by people who were qualified, and often enough, by people who were NOT qualified while often using dubious treatments.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Agree, but doubt the numbers who would follow through.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jul 2021

I'm guessing superiors will make some sensible effort to stroke and calm, and probably do something to help some achieve some kind of face saving, too. To their own satisfaction, anyway.

aeromanKC

(3,327 posts)
4. Great, let's require vaccinations for police departments!!
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:06 PM
Jul 2021

Great way to rid Police departments of MAGAt's!! Thanks Massie!!

Rhiannon12866

(206,009 posts)
29. My take on that, too.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 07:51 AM
Jul 2021

I've never been in the military, but I would guess that being accepted for military service would involve being current on regular and necessary inoculations just as it would be for entering school.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,364 posts)
6. Nobody's going AWOL over a damn shot or two.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jul 2021

Soldiers are given tons of shots for all kinds of stuff. Especially before being posted overseas. How many will risk bad discharges, reductions in rank and pay? A handful, maybe, the ones who are thinking of AWOL anyway.

Rhiannon12866

(206,009 posts)
30. That's also an excellent point.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 07:55 AM
Jul 2021

Traveling overseas to certain places often involves required inoculations. This is no different except for those Republicans who choose to make it political. And cause trouble.

struggle4progress

(118,338 posts)
7. Mandatory inoculation of the COVID vaccine in the Armed Forces
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jul 2021

by Major Whitney L. Wiles, USA, JAGC

... the Secretary HHS has the ability to require informed consent before administration of a drug under an EUA. Such is the case with the COVID vaccine: the Secretary HHS granted approval of the current COVID EUA upon the condition that the vaccine remain voluntary ...

... pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 1107a .. the Commander in Chief has the authority to waive the Secretary HHS’s voluntary condition and require service members to accept the unapproved, emergency-use vaccine ...

... prior to the inauguration, President Biden publicly stated he would not make vaccinations mandatory ...

... If a service member refuses to follow a commander’s order to accept the vaccine in this circumstance, commanders may issue clear, specific, and narrowly drawn orders for service members .. to receive the vaccine ...

... orders to receive the COVID vaccine would very likely be upheld as lawful ...

https://sites.duke.edu/lawfire/2021/02/18/can-troops-be-ordered-to-take-the-covid-vaccine-a-guest-post-analyzes-the-law/

The military has a “compelling interest” in ensuring the health of the force, and frequently curtails .. personal liberty and physical privacy ...

ismnotwasm

(42,008 posts)
8. Bullshit
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jul 2021

When my daughter was deployed she had every fucking vaccine possible including smallpox, and anthrax

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
20. They would be the type willing to hand over state secrets to someone offering them
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jul 2021

two free passes to the local topless club.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
12. Dishonorable discharges will fly
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jul 2021

No one wants a dishonorable discharge- and that's the least of their worries. AWOL can catch a charge.


sarisataka

(18,770 posts)
23. You would not get a DD for going AWOL
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:42 PM
Jul 2021

And unless we are going to have firing squads it would be the greatest punishment.

If anyone was to go AWOL over a shot, I highly doubt they would, there would be simple NJP in their future

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
28. Rumors are all over the local base that they
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 07:45 AM
Jul 2021

Will get a DD if the vaccine is approved for full and it's refused.

sarisataka

(18,770 posts)
36. I remember being in boot camp during Just Cuz
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 12:28 PM
Jul 2021

When we invaded Panama. There were rumors that our training was going to be cut short and we were going to be deployed to combat.

The military is in part a gossip club that constantly generates rumors. Most of them are ridiculous, and like this one, easily realized to be false with a mom

PortTack

(32,793 posts)
14. Oh JHC... what a stupid thing to say. Since when did any solider that's about to deploy overseas
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jul 2021

Refuse, or was allowed to refuse vaccines

Norbert

(6,041 posts)
15. My brother was poked prodded and stuck before flying off to 'nam.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jul 2021

I'm sure a couple more shots wouldn't have made much difference to him.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
22. If true, then they don't have "the right stuff" to be in the military.
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jul 2021

The group that would go AWOL over a vaccine would probably also cut and run in battle too, if the going got tough.

luckone

(21,646 posts)
25. They should leave They are probably the same ones
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jul 2021

that create a lot of the issues plaguing the military

Tree Lady

(11,491 posts)
26. Which is stupid because my son n law
Mon Jul 5, 2021, 10:05 PM
Jul 2021

In AF has been told to get all kinds of vaccines over the years. After 9-11 they made him get one for anthrax.

GoodRaisin

(8,929 posts)
35. Massey opens republican mouth, let's stupid out.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021

It appears he has no military service so perhaps he didn't know that you can't just quit the Military.

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