My little sister lives near Springfield Mo. She is an administrator at a care home -C0vid is hittin

[demtenjeep]

her hard.

She has lost many residents and many staff have Covid.


it is BAD.

She and her hubby are trumpist-but SHE got vaccinated even after she had covid

[roamer65]

1. For those adults out there who chose to remain unvaccinated...

No sympathy here...ZERO.

I feel bad for the kids, those vaccinated who have inadequate immunity, immunocompromised and those medically unable to get vaccinated.

[LisaL]

3. Most residents are presumably vaccinated.

But even vaccinated elderly can die from covid.

[roamer65]

5. I feel sorry for them, like I said above.

There will be vaccinated people who don’t generate enough antibodies to fight off this variant.

Their death will be squarely the fault of the antivaxxers.

[LisaL]

6. Yep.

A lot of staff in nursing homes remain un-vaccinated. They are presumably the source of infection in the nursing homes.

[roamer65]

8. I don't know how anyone in good conscience could do that.

To work in a nursing home and be unvaccinated is just plain evil.

[No Vested Interest]

28. Many who work in nursing homes are poorly paid, as well as not highly educated,

They fear missing a day of work and pay more than what they see of Covid.
My daughter (in her late 50's) lives in a long-term care facility.
All cases of Covid were brought in by staff, not family or friends.
Thank goodness, no deaths among residents so far.

[SoCalDavidS]

22. We Care About Those Deaths - The Anti-Vaxxers Do Not

No sweat off their backs, just so long as they can feel "normal" again.

[roamer65]

24. 100 pct true.

[Lovie777]

9. I read where most were not . .. .

[LisaL]

12. Not true.

"Most of those who tested positive for the virus had been vaccinated within the last six months."

https://www.kctv5.com/news/covid-19-outbreak-in-rural-missouri-nursing-home-leads-to-one-death-most-had-been/article_f4b65f94-db79-11eb-9bb5-5ffaa4df9956.html

[paleotn]

11. The odds of dying from Covid-19 after vaccination....

is extremely small even for the elderly and even with current variants. Future variants? That's a whole different ball game.

Even those who have been vaccinated can still be exposed and test positive, but in the vast majority of cases they won't show symptoms and their immune systems destroy the virus. A small number may have symptoms, but much less than the unvaccinated and the chances of hospitalization and death are greatly diminished.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/08/1014214448/fauci-says-current-vaccines-will-stand-up-to-the-delta-variant

[Arkansas Granny]

29. Being vaccinated may keep people from getting terribly sick or dying, but

they can still transmit the virus to others.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. You would think but a nearby home to us didn't even do

surveillance testing, of residents or staff. I seriously doubt if many of their residents are vaccinated.

[LisaL]

17. They didn't send in people to vaccinate the residents?

NT

[Maru Kitteh]

30. Homes are required to show they've made "sufficient arrangements" to

make the vaccine available. Administrators must call up all the powers of attorney to get permission before it's administered and those families are frequently hesitant, frightened and in search of advice - especially in a garnet-red county like this. If the administrator they are speaking to is dismissive, suspicious, negative, etc that will sway many who are often already predisposed to hesitancy straight into the "no" column.

[Ex Lurker]

39. In our county, whites are 55% vaccinated, Blacks 21%

Not everybody choosing to forego vaccinations is a Trumper. A lot of them are minorities who suffer from systemic racism, lack of access to health care, and a justified skepticism of the medical establishment.

[bamagal62]

2. Were the residents vaccinated?

[demtenjeep]

7. I don't know. She is not allowed to tell me that

she just asked us to pray for her care home and her family.



Her hubby can fuck right off but I worry about her.

[Jim G.]

4. The Hospitals In St. Louis Are Getting A Lot Of Springfield Covid Patients Now

And they're expecting a large new wave in the Ozarks.

[Maru Kitteh]

10. Do you happen to know what percentage of her residents are vaccinated and

what percentage of her staff? Are all the new cases unvaccinated?

I'm an infection control nurse at a care home.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. He wrote earlier that his sister wasn't allowed to say.

My oldest brother is a resident of a nursing home in Ohio, and an administrator told me that 100% of the residents there were vaccinated.

Hope she wasn't lying to me.

[LisaL]

15. Problem is, delta can break through vaccines.

What did administrator say about the staff vaccination rates? As far as I can tell that's where the issue is in nursing homes-while residents are well vaccinated staff is not.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

18. She didn't say, but that's surely worse.

Last I read for Ohio, the vaccination rate for residents was over 90% (in March), but far lower among the staff!

[Ms. Toad]

21. In my parents' retirement community -

Vaccination among residents is near 100%, but less than 50% for staff.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

25. It wouldn't surprise me if it's about the same...

... at my brother's nursing home.

The staff seem very attentive and caring, more than what I've observed in other places, but it's located in a fairly "red" area in the boonies.

[Maru Kitteh]

19. Percentages are not protected under HIPPA as they

do not include identifying information.

Like so many other things, the percentage of residents vaccinated have much to do with management and staff.

[Skittles]

40. it is HIPAA

fyi

[Maru Kitteh]

43. Typo. Thanks Skittttles.

[Mariana]

42. Sister's employer may have made a rule for employees to keep that secret.

"Tell anyone that information and you'll be fired!"

[Maru Kitteh]

44. Entirely plausible, sadly. nt

[demtenjeep]

26. I don't. It is a small home-I believe she said she had 7 staff with covid right now

and more residents.

I do know her census is small

[Maru Kitteh]

31. That's awful. I'm so sorry for her and all her residents. I hope

your sister takes care to look after herself too. It's just been so very hard.

[Treefrog]

49. How is it she can tell you how many of each have Covid, but can't tell you who is vaxxed?

[paleotn]

16. Here we go again....

but this time it will be regional clusters. Oh, and the conspiracies we'll hear this fall and winter as "the hoax", no worse than the flu is now targeting conservo-nuts! That was the super giant liberal plan all along!! Never mind the faulty logic or no logic at all.

I hate Reich Wingers. Each and every one. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I'm done with them.

[BigmanPigman]

20. No, it makes you a realist

and that is always a good thing.

[roamer65]

23. After schools reopen and go in person it won't be regional anymore.

It will be national.

[Scrivener7]

45. And include kids in a way it hasn't before.

[Volaris]

46. Yep. And when enough Karens' prescious little johnnies end up in the hospital,

Maybe THEN these fools will start turning off fox. It sucks to have to say, but this thing killing grandma and grandpa in round one didnt do fuckall to impact their thinking, maybe round 2 affecting their kids will have more of an impact.

[Scrivener7]

47. No. Sadly, when that happens it will be Biden's fault. And they'll never turn of Fox.

[Treefrog]

50. Many, many people of color have yet to be vaccinated. Not sure if they're fox viewers.

[bamagal62]

35. Those exact words came out of

My mouth this evening. I hate them all.

[Midnight Writer]

38. I just yesterday ordered a package of certified Made In USA KN-95 face masks.

I figured better have some in supply since a) I think this thing or something similar is going to come back harder than before, and b)the time of plenty is the time to prepare.

My county is less than 40% vaxxed.

I hate to see this happen.

[Klaralven]

27. The 7-day moving average of new cases is up from 12004 on Jun 21 to 17,952 yesterday.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Warpy]

32. Good for her for getting the shots.

With so much research showing a steep drop in antibodies in a few months, it is a good idea to get the shots after having the disease. The two shot regimen is to ensure the virus is logged into the memory cells, providing long term immunity.

[totodeinhere]

33. If staff memebers at a care home for seniors do not get vaccinated then as far as I'm

concerned they deserve whatever they get.

[pstokely]

34. they aren't requiring vaccines for employees?

?

[xmas74]

37. It's Missouri.

I'm a state employee and I'm not required, even though I sometimes work in direct care.
If our governor won't require it private businesses won't.

[Volaris]

48. Nope not yet. However, with the recent case in Texas getting thrown out,

Missouri being an At-Will workstate, delta being as bad as it is, and business across the board really really not wanting to close down again, I'm PRAYING for the day that the vaccines get non-emergency approval from the FDA, so it CAN start being MANDATED.

Oh, we get to stay open and make money if and only IF ALL our employees get a shot?
And the alternative is that we DONT get to do that?
Guess what, you're getting your shot or your getting fired.

Not for any other reason than the pure fucking schadenfreud of the thing at this point, I want this to happen. And if the Free Market needs to become the functional excuse that

1) FINALLY kills this little bugger off, or
2) means I dont have to work with quite as many damn-fool OAN watching idiot managers, I'm just fine with that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. 2020 redux