So, I play bridge with a Trumper

[Hamlette]

one out of about 15-20 of us. Today we are talking vaccines and I say "it's only the reppublicans at this point who won't get the vaccine". Then I realize she's right there so I say "did you get your vaccine" and she said "yes" looking at me like "of course".

I say then why are all the republicans refusing to get vaccinated?" She replied "Darwin was right. Survival of the fittest." Which of course is what I have said, or at least thought, many times.

I'm wondering if there might be a mild split happening in the Trump camp. She was disgusted by how stupid the anti-vaxxers are while admitting they are all Republicans.

[brush]

1. Maybe that's a crack in the ranks. But many are so in lockstep on election day...

and do what they're told.

Guess we'll see.

[Lucinda]

2. Most of the Reps I know have been vaccinated - but still buy a lot of the other crap

[patphil]

8. Both my brother-in-laws and spouses are fully vaccinated but voted for Trump twice.

An example of being stupid, but not crazy.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Willing to get the vaccine and at the same time support a violent insurrection because she lost.

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not picking on her but that is their reality

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. Where OP did it say that she supported the violent insurrection? nt

[ShazzieB]

15. Why are you jumping to that conclusion?

The op said their friend voted for Trump. There was no mention of their opinion on the, insurrection, the Big Lie, or anything else. If anything, the fact that they got vaccinated is evidence that they are not in lockstep with Trump on absolutely everything.

[Hamlette]

20. Frankly, I don't dare ask her about the big lie or January 6

I'd rather play bridge than talk politics with a Trumper.

She's the best player in the group. And if you play any kind of competitive game you know why I look up to her. She became disabled not long after graduating from Med school and I think her life is quite limited.

What I hope to get out of it is that she will say she knows a 3rd generation godless commie pinko who doesn't eat babies. Then my work will be done.

[ananda]

4. We have vaccinated Reeps at my bridge club.

I don't actually partner with them, but we are actually
friends and get along great.

I just keep my bridge life strictly for fun, not
politics or religion.

It's going very well, btw! Just won a NAP qualifier,
getting ready for nationals here in Austin later
this year.

[Warpy]

5. Sounds like you need to make a political truce with this lady

because some of her instincts are right and she's not a total fool.

I tolerate a lot of GOPs who are like that. I won't talk politics with 'em, but anything else is just fine.

They're not the enemy any more than we're their enemy. Their rotten leadership is to blame with that, pretty much starting with Gingrich and his tribalism.

Of course, the ones who go out of their way to be assholes will be told to bugger off.

[murielm99]

7. I know what you mean.

I live in a red area of a blue state. I have a truce with some of my neighbors. We still have to help each other out at times. We cannot get through hard winters, illnesses and losses without each other. And sometimes it is nice simply to see another human being.

[FakeNoose]

6. At least some of them are getting the shots, but lying about it

... to their friends and fellow wingnuts.

Your bridge friend had no reason to lie because she was surrounded by other vaccinated people, presumably Democrats and/or liberals. In a different group she might have given a different answer.

[Diamond_Dog]

9. My sister is a Republican

Who thinks “Trump did some good things” and told me “Biden is not my President”.
But she also got her vaccine and has no patience with anti vaxxers and anti maskers.

[StClone]

10. To be fair, and accurate, Darwin stated:

(And it is what Liberalism/Liberals are good at...)


“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent; it is the one most adaptable to change.” — Charles Darwin, British naturalist.May 4, 2014

[Caliman73]

14. Thanks.

Beat me to it. Darwin fought against the idea of "survival of the fittest" it was a bastardization of his work.

[cannabis_flower]

11. My Trump loving mother and sister got it as soon as they could eom

[Caliman73]

13. Darwin never said, "survival of the fittest".

Natural selection is a disinterested natural process by which those with advantageous traits are more likely to have offspring and pass the advantageous traits on to viable offspring. Something that is advantageous, may become disadvantageous if there is a change in the environment. It isn't about fittest. It is about having the traits that are best suited to the environment.

"Survival of the fittest" was coined by the racist idiot Herbert Spencer and his ilk who thought that the "best" type of human (White Christians) would out compete inferior stock. They also objected to ANY social welfare to aimed to help that "inferior stock" to survive. They tried to apply Darwinian principles to human beings, something that Charles was completely against, understanding that humans evolved to be a social species which had the best chances of survival when we work together with compassion.

Conservatives certainly accept Spencer's social evolution ideas more than the Theory of Evolution and any of Darwin's work.

[GoodRaisin]

16. One of the things I love about DU...

It seems I'm always learning something new. Today was Herbert Spencer. Somehow I missed him in Philosophy class.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

17. From the Hoarse Whisperer

Link to tweet

[smirkymonkey]

18. I have some republican family members, however they have all gotten the vaccine and were all on

board from the start. It may have something to do with the fact that half of them are health professionals, but they are also not raging MAGAts either.

[progressoid]

19. I know of three family members who have not been vaccinated. 2 are GOP. One is a Dem.