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Nevilledog

(51,157 posts)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:53 PM Jul 2021

To Trump's hard-core supporters, his rallies weren't politics. They were life.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-rallies-front-row-joes/2021/07/15/cd842ee6-e589-11eb-8aa5-5662858b696e_story.html

It was the third summer of Trump’s presidency, and the event had been billed as the official kickoff of his reelection campaign. What unfolded, however, was effectively the exact same rally I’d already covered at least 50 times since 2016 as a White House and political reporter for the Wall Street Journal. Traditionally, a campaign launch marks an inflection point for a candidate to frame the race, offering a new message or a second-term agenda. But the only differences that day in June 2019 were cosmetic: The sound system was louder, the physical stage grander. Timeworn chants of “Lock her up” and “Build the wall” rippled through the arena, with Trump supporters echoing their favorite lines like childhood friends at a sleepover watching their favorite movie for the umpteenth time.

Then it struck me. The deafening roars and vigorous choruses from the capacity crowd at the 20,000-seat Amway Arena showed that Trump’s supporters were excited to watch a rerun. They’d stood in line for hours or camped overnight — enduring stifling humidity interrupted only by brief bursts of hard, heavy rain — to ensure a spot inside. Now I was rattled. I had let the rallies, which formed the core of one of the most steadfast political movements in modern American history and reordered the Republican Party, turn stale and rote. Why was Trump’s performance still so fresh and resonant for an entire arena of fellow Americans? I spent the next year and a half embedded with a group of Trump’s most hardcore rallygoers — known as the “Front Row Joes” — to try to understand what I’d overlooked.

The answer wasn’t so much what I’d missed as what they had found. They were mostly older White men and women who lived paycheck to paycheck with plenty of time on their hands — retired or close to it, estranged from their families or otherwise without children — and Trump had, in a surprising way, made their lives richer. The president himself almost always spent the night in his own bed and kept few close friends. But his rallies gave the Joes a reason to travel the country, staying at one another’s homes, sharing hotel rooms and carpooling. Two had married — and later divorced — by Trump’s second year in office.

In Trump, they’d found someone whose endless thirst for a fight encouraged them to speak up for themselves, not just in politics but also in relationships and at work. His rallies turned arenas into modern-day tent revivals, where the preacher and the parishioners engaged in an adrenaline-fueled psychic cleansing brought on by chanting and cheering with 15,000 other like-minded loyalists. Saundra Kiczenski, a 56-year-old from Michigan, compared the energy at a Trump rally to the feelings she had as a teenager in 1980 watching the “Miracle on Ice” — when the U.S. Olympic hockey team unexpectedly beat the Soviet Union.

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To Trump's hard-core supporters, his rallies weren't politics. They were life. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
It was a tailgating party where you could participate in the action bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #1
They need to get a life maryellen99 Jul 2021 #2
*gag* I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #3
That same person was quoted as saying: Ocelot II Jul 2021 #4
or pick up trash in their community XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #8
Best explanation of why these people do this I have ever read. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #5
"Then it struck me" gratuitous Jul 2021 #6
While I, too, am SO tired of hearing of these dunderheads..... MyOwnPeace Jul 2021 #9
When have they ever listened to us and wondered about Boomerproud Jul 2021 #11
I SO agree!!! MyOwnPeace Jul 2021 #12
That was part of my poorly made point gratuitous Jul 2021 #15
They're seriously the ICP of politics. Initech Jul 2021 #7
What they found in Trump was Hitler...a Hitler of sorts, but Hitler nevertheless. Stuart G Jul 2021 #10
in other words, they are a fucking cult Skittles Jul 2021 #13
Life-style as well as a living. They'll move onto the next grift in time. marble falls Jul 2021 #14
They have a pretty shitty life. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #16
They need to get a life. Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 #17

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
2. They need to get a life
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jul 2021

Too bad they haven’t realized that trump looks down on them and thinks they are “suckers” and “white trash”.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
3. *gag*
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jul 2021

Found life in tfg?

How purposeless and lifeless you must be to find life and purpose through worshipping a psychopath,and killing your own brain and undermining your own moral compass.

Ocelot II

(115,783 posts)
4. That same person was quoted as saying:
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jul 2021

“We weren’t there to steal things. We weren’t there to do damage. We were just there to overthrow the government.”

Excuse me, Sandra, but trying to overthrow the government is a crime - a bigger one than stealing things or doing damage.

But we're starting to see that there is absolutely no logical reason for any of this nonsense. These are incomplete people with sad lives who need a cause and a way to bond with other people. Too bad they didn't join the Rotary Club or a community orchestra instead.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. "Then it struck me"
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:19 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Do tell, Washington Post. You got a real good look at who attended Donald Trump's rallies, went on endless Cletus safaris, and told your audience over and over what a typically American bunch these people were. We needed to listen to them. We had to understand them. We couldn't/shouldn't look down our noses at them as if we were somehow better than them just because we weren't swallowing the bullshit spew out of Trump like they were.

Now here, several months after the election, and the mean man's tweeter thumbs are silenced at last, you're not scared of them anymore, and you can now, at last, tell us what we've known all along about these insecure people starving for a toughguy to lead them. What's next? That Donald Trump wasn't nearly as tough as he projected himself to be? Knock me over with a feather!

MyOwnPeace

(16,936 posts)
9. While I, too, am SO tired of hearing of these dunderheads.....
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:34 PM
Jul 2021

AND hearing their quotes when they seem to go out of their way to prove that they ARE dunderheads........
I believe we REALLY, REALLY need to 'get to know them' and try to understand how they can be SO F'ing stupid - because there are at least 74 million of them that seemingly will be ready to follow him anywhere.
While I really have strong doubts that he'll even be alive in 2024 (chanting "MORE BIG MACS, MORE BIG MACS!" ), we need to make sure we are 'tending to the needs' of the citizens - doing what makes the USA the beacon of freedom and liberty.
As General Sun Tzu has been quoted (I know, the IRONY - quoting a CHINESE general!): "Know thy enemy and know yourself."


Boomerproud

(7,961 posts)
11. When have they ever listened to us and wondered about
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:55 PM
Jul 2021

our problems and grievances? My main anger at them is their utter selfishness.

MyOwnPeace

(16,936 posts)
12. I SO agree!!!
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jul 2021

Their idea of compromise is "Our way or the highway." They can flip their position the day a Democrat is sworn in (see: DEFICIT SPENDING!).
However, we HAVE to know what they're thinking (as feeble as their efforts may be....) and work at ways to counter the negative BS that their "leaders" are feeding them.
Oh, and WE have to stay united (not counting Manchin and Sinema - can't count on them for anything!).

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. That was part of my poorly made point
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jul 2021

We already know a lot about these folks, and only now are some in the media conceding what we've been saying all along. Hey, did you know that a lot of Trump supporters are racist? Some of them are not dealing very well with the prospect of the white majority not being in the majority. A lot of them aren't highly educated. Many of them feel better because Trump tells them pleasing lies; and they're unconcerned when Trump doesn't come through on his promises. In fact some of them are convinced that Trump has never broken a promise. They operate on poor or bad information and make decisions that hurt themselves because they don't know any better. All reported as if it was breaking news to the general public.

Initech

(100,090 posts)
7. They're seriously the ICP of politics.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jul 2021

They have their own brand, their own slogans, their own identifiers. They have their own products that they use and those they wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. They don't live in the real world, only an imaginary one. And their festivals and spectacles are the only social interaction they get outside of a computer screen.

Stuart G

(38,438 posts)
10. What they found in Trump was Hitler...a Hitler of sorts, but Hitler nevertheless.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jul 2021

Hitler didn't give a damn about people, only himself; same as Trump
Hitler didn't care about killing people, only cared about those that supported him (same as Trump)
Hitler cared only about ...winning.....that is all Trump cared about..
Trump obviously was in love with lies, and so was Hitler..

There is more, but that is enough.... .....very, very, very sad, but that is what they were looking for.
and they found him..

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