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doc03

(35,348 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:24 PM Jul 2021

Aren't there public decency laws today. I see all these

Fuck Biden and Biden sucks flags. I saw a guy selling flags with a giant penis and Biden Sucks printed on it yesterday.
You can't talk like that on public airwaves or put that headline on a news paper. But you can have an 8 foot flag in your front yard or on a pickup.
This is in Ohio, I posted an op a couple days ago about not seeing trash like this in NC or TN but it is acceptable behavior in Ohio.

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Aren't there public decency laws today. I see all these (Original Post) doc03 Jul 2021 OP
We all have the right to free speech. You can make Trump sucks flags if you want. twin_ghost Jul 2021 #1
In Ohio your house would be fire bombed or full doc03 Jul 2021 #3
That's a particularly weak comeback canetoad Jul 2021 #18
Freedom of speech has consequences. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #2
If this is the ony way they have to protest the opposition, Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #4
Gotta own it. If they play the "Fuck Biden" card, play the "Fuck Biden-Trump's Already Fucked!" card TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #5
Maybe it is protected under freedom of speech Meowmee Jul 2021 #6
... MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #12
Yes however at some point certain symbols are considered hate symbols in various states Meowmee Jul 2021 #15
The First Amendment has no exception for "hate symbols" tritsofme Jul 2021 #17
Unless it is placed on someone else's property or public property with intent to harm/ vandalize Meowmee Jul 2021 #23
The crime is the vandalism. tritsofme Jul 2021 #24
It is also classified as a hate crime in my state I believe, not only Meowmee Jul 2021 #25
It aggravates the underlying crime of vandalism, in this case. tritsofme Jul 2021 #26
The whole flags on pickups thing should be illegal, imo, no matter what the content. RockRaven Jul 2021 #7
Agree Meowmee Jul 2021 #16
It's free speech. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #8
It is another ineffective play by the conservatives. Who is going to be persuaded by these displays? Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #9
And many are utter hypocrites about it. dickthegrouch Jul 2021 #10
Four words: MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #11
I have seen them here in Tennessee jojog Jul 2021 #13
Saw several Fuck Trump stickers on vehicles the last few years. MichMan Jul 2021 #14
if you're in rural Ohio there's likely not much you can do about it cadoman Jul 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #20
I have seen them actually say that Jesus ordained Trump to soak up humanity's sins by perpetrating Celerity Jul 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #22

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
4. If this is the ony way they have to protest the opposition,
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jul 2021

consider it a win for us. Also consider it means they know we won.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
5. Gotta own it. If they play the "Fuck Biden" card, play the "Fuck Biden-Trump's Already Fucked!" card
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jul 2021

.

They do that to piss you off. You have to turn that negative into a positive that will piss them off more.

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Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
6. Maybe it is protected under freedom of speech
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

If it is private, I am not sure. We saw a nutso with a gigantic flag on their car with black yellow I think and something about Biden loves China maybe 😹 I couldn't see it very well in spite of how large it was. We were coming home from a hospital stay and I did not mention it to my family so I am not sure if they even really noticed it. I am trying to ignore all such things now because we have more important things to worry about. Don’t give these people the attention they are craving.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
12. ...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:22 PM
Jul 2021
Maybe it is protected under freedom of speech


There's no maybe about it, it is absolutely protected speech.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
15. Yes however at some point certain symbols are considered hate symbols in various states
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:29 AM
Jul 2021

Though, but I am not sure where the line between public and private domain ends in each case.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
23. Unless it is placed on someone else's property or public property with intent to harm/ vandalize
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 03:30 AM
Jul 2021

Such as a swastika painted on etc. or if the flag were to say something to the effect of harming the prez maybe perhaps that is regulated even in private use.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. It is also classified as a hate crime in my state I believe, not only
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jul 2021

As only vandalism, such as throwing an egg at someone’s house. So if you paint a swastika etc on someone’s house or a public building you can be charged with a hate crime, not simple vandalism.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
26. It aggravates the underlying crime of vandalism, in this case.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 04:23 PM
Jul 2021

Hateful symbols are still protected speech.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
7. The whole flags on pickups thing should be illegal, imo, no matter what the content.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jul 2021

Seems like a safety hazard to have giant opaque flapping sheets loosely attached to vehicles in traffic at speed...

If you want "Fuck Biden" or a giant dick on your vehicle, it should be decals or painted or otherwise permanently affixed and immobile.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
16. Agree
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:36 AM
Jul 2021

I think the size of flag may be regulated, if not it should be on cars etc. But it is not enforced.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
9. It is another ineffective play by the conservatives. Who is going to be persuaded by these displays?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jul 2021

Is an Independent voter leaning towards Biden actually going to see a Fuck Biden flag and think "Now that's a good point" and change their vote?

dickthegrouch

(3,175 posts)
10. And many are utter hypocrites about it.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:08 PM
Jul 2021

I deliberately raised my middle finger to a guy who’s shirt said something along the lines of”Welcome to my world, now get the f*** out”.
He wanted to know what my problem was and why I would diss him in front of his family.

I just responded that he had no grounds to complain because he’d made it acceptable.

I then heard his wife trying to explain it to him as I walked on.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
14. Saw several Fuck Trump stickers on vehicles the last few years.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:11 PM
Jul 2021

I would never display anything like that personally, but it is protected speech

cadoman

(792 posts)
19. if you're in rural Ohio there's likely not much you can do about it
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 01:44 AM
Jul 2021

Rednecks gonna redneck. If you're in a planned community sometimes HOA codes and such can keep things more civil.

I'll be honest though, I got a kick out of all the "Fuck Trump" flags in our neighborhood. It was a strong show of solidarity. We didn't exactly go high when they went low, but we were all having a lot of fun.

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Celerity

(43,415 posts)
21. I have seen them actually say that Jesus ordained Trump to soak up humanity's sins by perpetrating
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:12 AM
Jul 2021
them himself, therefore inoculating those who support Trump. Those who do not support Trump are thus defying Jesus, and will burn in the fire lakes of Hell, because they are not protected by Trump's selfless sacrifice!

yes, they are that



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