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Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:10 PM Jul 2021

(Update) Right wing radio host Phil Valentine placed on ventilator

Last edited Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:06 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wkrn.com/news/phil-valentine-now-on-ventilator-amid-covid-19-battle/amp/

"Conservative radio talk show host Phil Valentine, who is currently hospitalized with COVID-19, has now been placed on a ventilator.

According to a tweet from Nashville’s SuperTalk 99.7 WTN, the move to the ventilator was made “out of an abundance of caution.”

The station’s tweet goes on to say the host made the decision to be put on a venilator to give his body some “much needed rest.”

Valentine had previously been on oxygen."...(more)

**Update**:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-radio-host-phil-valentine-needs-ecmo-machine-to-fight-covid-brother-says

..."the conservative Nashville talk show host fighting for his life against COVID-19, needs to be on an ECMO machine, similar to a heart-lung by-pass device used in open-heart surgery, his brother wrote on Facebook Friday afternoon. “Phil made it through the nite,” Mark Valentine wrote. He said that efforts to move his brother by helicopter to a hospital equipped with a ECMO machine were underway. “The protocol requires he be able to be on his back for several hours which I didn’t think he could do…but he did! We’re checking bed availability now and if he is a candidate for transport. It ain’t over.”
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(Update) Right wing radio host Phil Valentine placed on ventilator (Original Post) Tanuki Jul 2021 OP
Aye yi yi. Makes me sick in the stomach. boston bean Jul 2021 #1
OMG jpak Jul 2021 #11
Really? They put people on ventilators out of abundance of caution now? LisaL Jul 2021 #2
They don't do it just for the hell of it? IggleDuer Jul 2021 #13
It's possible they're downplaying the severity of his condition. chia Jul 2021 #22
To his credit. He reversed himself and started advising people to get one of the vaccine(s) Blue_true Jul 2021 #41
Has he reversed himself? Mariana Jul 2021 #49
Yep. LisaL Jul 2021 #59
"His family started making statements." Exactly. Mariana Jul 2021 #62
Yep, I am not aware of any pro-vaccine statements her personally made. LisaL Jul 2021 #63
Even if he rather than his family reversed himself TxGuitar Jul 2021 #67
yup. that fucker mercuryblues Jul 2021 #68
Yep. I have zero sympathy for anyone who gets covid now TxGuitar Jul 2021 #70
You don't get tubed out an abundance of caution elias7 Jul 2021 #3
This MiniMe Jul 2021 #14
Yep. They don't put the Covid patients on vents until Horse with no Name Jul 2021 #4
Sad when you make decisions which are contrary to your best interests StClone Jul 2021 #5
He started advising people to get vaccinated once he got sick. Blue_true Jul 2021 #43
Link to Phil Valentine advising people to get vaccinated, please. TIA. nt. Mariana Jul 2021 #55
Respectfully, I've seen that his brother has stated that we should all get vaccinated. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #65
To paraphrase Officer Fanone: lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #71
I don't think it works that way... Ohio Joe Jul 2021 #6
A patient does not require a trachea to be put on a ventilator. TexasTowelie Jul 2021 #15
In the hospital you don't need a trach. But, if you go home in respiratory failure you mucifer Jul 2021 #57
I'm referring to the home ventilators. My brother is a RT who sets up DME. nt TexasTowelie Jul 2021 #60
Yes, I've been feeling kind of tired lately - my body needs a rest! hatrack Jul 2021 #17
I had a little difficulty sleeping last night so I asked my doctor to come over to my house this ,.. magicarpet Jul 2021 #36
Wow Windy City Charlie Jul 2021 #7
That is what I hate about people like him. Blue_true Jul 2021 #44
Not to be morbid but I think there's likely going to be a whole lot of 'rest' forthcoming Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #8
A long summer dirt nap... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2021 #25
And here's to hoping that rest is very peaceful (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #26
He's Not Going To Make It To August nt SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #9
I'm seriously not gonna make myself give a fuck about these right wing radio assholes.. Volaris Jul 2021 #10
I used to listen to Coast2Coast at night while I fell asleep happybird Jul 2021 #18
I mean, let's be honest with each other. CtC wasn't EXACTLY credible lol... Volaris Jul 2021 #20
At least Art could make flying rabbit Jul 2021 #32
Night Vale is excellent ornotna Jul 2021 #39
Art was the best! happybird Jul 2021 #40
I am right there with you.... TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #45
Thoughts and prayers! blueinredohio Jul 2021 #12
This is not a choice, its a last resort. 45 and his lying minions need horse whippings. marble falls Jul 2021 #16
Ironic that someone so full of hot air now needs a machine to pump it into him Azathoth Jul 2021 #19
couldn't have happened to a nicer piece of shit Skittles Jul 2021 #21
I suspect that this dummy feels especially stupid for embracing NCjack Jul 2021 #23
Stats for those put on a vent due to covid...2 in 10. PortTack Jul 2021 #24
He also said that hospitals were never in danger of being overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients IcyPeas Jul 2021 #27
He changed his tune on vaccines once he got sick. Blue_true Jul 2021 #46
Got a link to him saying so? Mariana Jul 2021 #54
Well that'll shut him up for awhile. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #28
Thread winner. mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #29
For the sake of his followers scrabblequeen40 Jul 2021 #30
Hopefully he recovers and can get back on the air to issue a wakeup call Bucky Jul 2021 #51
He will probably get monoclonal antibodies and be ok. He is in the privileged class. joetheman Jul 2021 #31
Monoclonal antibodies work best early on. LisaL Jul 2021 #34
Actually these days most people can get it. As long as they get it soon and they have to know about mucifer Jul 2021 #58
He "wanted his freedom" GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #33
That is one hell of a Chinese Hoax he's dealing with. LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #35
well, bye. harumph Jul 2021 #37
To quote Ivan Drago, "If he dies, he dies". DenaliDemocrat Jul 2021 #38
Ok. Rest in peace. dalton99a Jul 2021 #42
boo. fucking. hoo. NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #47
An example. An exhibit. Sneederbunk Jul 2021 #48
For some reason the Covid illnesses didn't wake them up when it hit poor black & brown communities. Bucky Jul 2021 #50
He is a trumper, send him to maralago. I have no sympathy for these fools. akbacchus_BC Jul 2021 #52
QMAGAts already planning the CT that old Phil was murdered by Biden, Harris, and Pelosi Celerity Jul 2021 #53
Keep an eye out for his ICU video statement. Vinca Jul 2021 #56
I don't think he is in any condition to make any statements. LisaL Jul 2021 #61
I would watch that malaise Jul 2021 #64
Good Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #66
Oh well! ... nt Hotler Jul 2021 #69
Update...he will be flown to another hospital for ECMO. Tanuki Jul 2021 #72
This guy believed his chances of dying from covid were very low, does he didn't need a vaccine. LisaL Jul 2021 #73
Phil made it through the night malaise Jul 2021 #74
Yes, I know he is alive (so far). LisaL Jul 2021 #75
Precisely malaise Jul 2021 #76
He was likely at very low risk from any vaccine side effects. LisaL Jul 2021 #77
The minute we heard vaccines were coming we followed the guidelines malaise Jul 2021 #80
Same here. Got it as soon as it became available for my group. LisaL Jul 2021 #83
So much for the brother's "abundance of caution" explanation Tanuki Jul 2021 #78
I don't think anybody is going to be put on a ventilator out of abundance of caution. LisaL Jul 2021 #79
Bullshitters will be bullshitters malaise Jul 2021 #81
Reserving my sympathy for the innocent people this jerk infected. nt Cognitive_Resonance Jul 2021 #82

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
2. Really? They put people on ventilators out of abundance of caution now?
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jul 2021

Would you like to be put on a ventilator just in case?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. To his credit. He reversed himself and started advising people to get one of the vaccine(s)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jul 2021

Yes, he had been a dick, but he appeared to have realized the mistake in that.

I don’t care for the guy, but I hope that he pulls through and goes back home. Maybe he becomes a better person after.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
49. Has he reversed himself?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:09 AM
Jul 2021

I've seen reports that his family has said he regrets it, but as far as I know, he hasn't said any such thing publicly. Has there been anything from the man himself advising people to get one of the vaccines? A tweet, a facebook post, an e-mail, anything?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
59. Yep.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:21 AM
Jul 2021

When he ended up in the hospital, his family started making statements that he regrets not being "more pro-vaccine."

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
62. "His family started making statements." Exactly.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:40 AM
Jul 2021
He hasn't said word one to the public about it. And while he's obviously too sick to do it now, apparently he was feeling well enough to sit up and use a computer a few days ago. FTR, his family are also claiming that he was never anti-vaccine.


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TxGuitar

(4,201 posts)
67. Even if he rather than his family reversed himself
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:08 AM
Jul 2021

he deserves no credit. Oops, I was wrong, sorry a bunch of you died. Not gonna fly.

mercuryblues

(14,536 posts)
68. yup. that fucker
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:34 AM
Jul 2021

encouraged others not to get vaccinated. Which put my life at risk. Thankfully I am finally healthy enough to get the vaccine. Now I have to worry about Delta. Again because of that fucker and others like him encouraged their followers making Delta possible.

TxGuitar

(4,201 posts)
70. Yep. I have zero sympathy for anyone who gets covid now
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021

unless they are immune-comprimised, a young person, or a vaccinated person. A person that doesn't get vaccinated because they thing it's made from aborted babies, or changes their DNA or just to own the libs deserves it, and if they die, good riddance. I know that's harsh, but it's because of them we are where we are now.

elias7

(4,012 posts)
3. You don't get tubed out an abundance of caution
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jul 2021

You get intubated because you are in respiratory failure

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
4. Yep. They don't put the Covid patients on vents until
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jul 2021

They are circling the drain because the odds of him coming off are pretty slim.

StClone

(11,686 posts)
5. Sad when you make decisions which are contrary to your best interests
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:17 PM
Jul 2021

Especially in the face of overwhelming evidence. Bold? Stick-to-it-ness? No stupidity.

Hope you get better and help spread the word. Gravity is real. Earth is not flat. And, wearing masks, and vaccines are beneficial to keep you out of danger. Hope it is not too late.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. He started advising people to get vaccinated once he got sick.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:43 PM
Jul 2021

If only he had done that while well. Even if he pulls through, his earlier stance likely resulted in people dying.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
65. Respectfully, I've seen that his brother has stated that we should all get vaccinated.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jul 2021

And his family says he’s had a change of heart.

But have read nothing that states he has. I know early in his illness he was still sticking to his previous line.

That said, I hope he survives. I try not to wish death on anyone.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
71. To paraphrase Officer Fanone:
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jul 2021

"Thank you for changing your mind, but fuck you for lying in the first place!"

Ohio Joe

(21,760 posts)
6. I don't think it works that way...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:17 PM
Jul 2021

As I understand it, to go on a ventilator they do a trachea to insert a tube so it can breath for you... I'm not sure you could tell your doctor that your body needs rest so, yeah, ventilate me.

Maybe... But it does not sound legit to me.

TexasTowelie

(112,285 posts)
15. A patient does not require a trachea to be put on a ventilator.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jul 2021

For a patient without a tracheotomy, it is called a non-invasive ventilation. It is called an invasive ventilation for the patients who have a tracheotomy. Most vents are non-invasive,

mucifer

(23,555 posts)
57. In the hospital you don't need a trach. But, if you go home in respiratory failure you
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:13 AM
Jul 2021

could need a trach to survive or you can have a compassionate extubation for death.

The non invasive vents at home are powerful bipaps. But, that might be what you are referring to.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
17. Yes, I've been feeling kind of tired lately - my body needs a rest!
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

So I'll see if my doctor can intubate me for a couple of days. You know, out of an abundance of caution!

magicarpet

(14,157 posts)
36. I had a little difficulty sleeping last night so I asked my doctor to come over to my house this ,..
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:28 PM
Jul 2021

... evening and place me on a medically induced coma. My doctor is sleeping over tonight in the guest room and promised to wake me in the morning by reversing the coma.



Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
7. Wow
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jul 2021

Talk about trying to put a positive spin on a situation. No, you don't get put on a ventilator out of "an abundance of caution" and to take some time to rest.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. That is what I hate about people like him.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:45 PM
Jul 2021

He should have said that his condition had worsened and ventilation was needed to give him a chance to improve.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Not to be morbid but I think there's likely going to be a whole lot of 'rest' forthcoming
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jul 2021

Really the hardest part of this whole thing is just how totally pwned I feel right now. It's kinda crushing.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
10. I'm seriously not gonna make myself give a fuck about these right wing radio assholes..
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jul 2021

Until Levin is on a vent.
They're just a buncha Rushbo wannabe clones, and if they die I dont gaf

Levin is a special kind of hateweasel tho, and I'm not afraid to say that I will RELISH his suffering.

happybird

(4,609 posts)
18. I used to listen to Coast2Coast at night while I fell asleep
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jul 2021

When I woke in the morning, either that asshole Levin or Laura Ingraham was playing on the same station. What an awful way to start the day.

The one positive bit is I would vault out of bed after about 5 min. of hearing that garbage. Not so positive was my mood. Ugh.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
20. I mean, let's be honest with each other. CtC wasn't EXACTLY credible lol...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:44 PM
Jul 2021

Art Bell himself might not have been Crazy, but he sure did love him some of Americas Lunatics, that's for SURE!

You may as well listen to Night Vale podcast hahaha..

flying rabbit

(4,636 posts)
32. At least Art could make
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:14 PM
Jul 2021

conspiracies fun. I didn't realize how many actually invested themselves in them.

happybird

(4,609 posts)
40. Art was the best!
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jul 2021

He had the perfect demeanor to handle the crazies. They usually couldn’t tell when he was making fun of their conspiracies, lol! And he asked interesting questions.

George Norry sucks. I haven’t listened in years.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
45. I am right there with you....
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

Would be justice if Tucker Carlson ended up on a vent., but I suspect he has been vaccinated.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
21. couldn't have happened to a nicer piece of shit
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:48 PM
Jul 2021

still, I wish him well, I cannot bring myself to root for someone's demise

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
23. I suspect that this dummy feels especially stupid for embracing
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jul 2021

medical advice given by TFG and the GQP.

PortTack

(32,779 posts)
24. Stats for those put on a vent due to covid...2 in 10.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:53 PM
Jul 2021

This statistic is from the CDCs weekly morbidity mortality rate report

IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
27. He also said that hospitals were never in danger of being overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jul 2021
Valentine had previously expressed his disagreement with mask mandates, stating that hospitals were never in danger of being overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients. He has also been critical of the virus vaccines, voicing his concerns over their safety.


https://www.wkrn.com/news/phil-valentine-now-on-ventilator-amid-covid-19-battle/

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. He changed his tune on vaccines once he got sick.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:51 PM
Jul 2021

I honestly don’t know what goes through the head of people like that, my only guess is they are fundamentally selfish pricks.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
54. Got a link to him saying so?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:47 AM
Jul 2021

Not his family, but him. I can't find where he has said anything like that.

scrabblequeen40

(334 posts)
30. For the sake of his followers
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jul 2021

I'm okay if karma wins this one. A number of his followers have already died because of his advice. I hope that a number of them will live because of his example.

mucifer

(23,555 posts)
58. Actually these days most people can get it. As long as they get it soon and they have to know about
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:16 AM
Jul 2021

it

LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
35. That is one hell of a Chinese Hoax he's dealing with.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:25 PM
Jul 2021

I hope he lives so he can go on the air and tell all of his followers to get the goddamned vaccine.

harumph

(1,908 posts)
37. well, bye.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:28 PM
Jul 2021

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "cuckoo"
Cuckoo, cuckoo
Regretfully they tell us Cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us Cuckoo, cuckoo

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
50. For some reason the Covid illnesses didn't wake them up when it hit poor black & brown communities.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:15 AM
Jul 2021

I do hope they wake up to this pandemic's potential for damage as soon as possible. The sooner they start acting responsibly, the sooner we'll all be safer from this virus.

Wish they'd realize canoes don't sink one side at a time.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
52. He is a trumper, send him to maralago. I have no sympathy for these fools.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:55 AM
Jul 2021

I can understand if some people cannot get the vaccine for health reasons but they should wear a mask in public. There is no excuse for people not to protect themselves and the people they associate with. Doctors and nurses are fed up and over worked.

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
56. Keep an eye out for his ICU video statement.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:59 AM
Jul 2021

"I - gasp, gasp - made a - gasp, gasp - mistake - gasp, gasp, gasp - in not getting - gasp - vaccina -gasp, gasp, gasp -ted. Please - gasp, gurgle, gasp - get - gasp - the vaccine."

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
66. Good
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jul 2021


He deserves to die so he can be a learning opportunity for those he poisoned against the vaccines. His death can help save others.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
72. Update...he will be flown to another hospital for ECMO.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jul 2021

His condition sounds grim.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-radio-host-phil-valentine-needs-ecmo-machine-to-fight-covid-brother-says

..."the conservative Nashville talk show host fighting for his life against COVID-19, needs to be on an ECMO machine, similar to a heart-lung by-pass device used in open-heart surgery, his brother wrote on Facebook Friday afternoon. “Phil made it through the nite,” Mark Valentine wrote. He said that efforts to move his brother by helicopter to a hospital equipped with a ECMO machine were underway. “The protocol requires he be able to be on his back for several hours which I didn’t think he could do…but he did! We’re checking bed availability now and if he is a candidate for transport. It ain’t over.”

Last week, family members said that Valentine, who had spread COVID misinformation and mocked vaccines on his radio show, regretted not being a vaccine advocate and was battling COVID pneumonia, but he had not been placed on a ventilator. That decision was revised earlier this week when Valentine’s already severe condition continued to deteriorate."

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
73. This guy believed his chances of dying from covid were very low, does he didn't need a vaccine.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:23 AM
Jul 2021

I guess he found out he was wrong the hard way.
ECMO is the last resort.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
75. Yes, I know he is alive (so far).
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jul 2021

Apparently the plan is to put him on an ecmo machine.
Sounds like covid did a number on his lungs, if he need an ecmo machine.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
77. He was likely at very low risk from any vaccine side effects.
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jul 2021

People who get vaccine side effects appear to be mostly young with over active immune systems.
He could have gotten vaccinated and most likely would have not have ended up on an ECMO machine even if he got covid.
Instead he was giving anti-vaxxing advice to his listeners, so there could very well be others ending up in the same situation he now is, because they listened to him.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
80. The minute we heard vaccines were coming we followed the guidelines
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:49 AM
Jul 2021

for our age group and showed up for both jabs - it's that simple.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
78. So much for the brother's "abundance of caution" explanation
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

for why he was placed on a ventilator earlier this week.

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