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Initech

(100,088 posts)
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:10 PM Jul 2021

Gov Newsom: 'We could lose this recall'

Gov. Gavin Newsom stated it plainly for supporters on Wednesday — the recall race is going to be tight.

“Let us be very direct and very honest: if we do not have the resources we need to turn out our voters, we could lose this recall,” Team Newsom wrote in a plea to donors Wednesday morning, asking for a $3 donation to keep the fight going.

The governor’s Stop the Republican Recall committee has already raised more than $36 million to combat the effort, but the most recent poll showing an almost even split among likely voters is a cause for concern, the campaign said.

“The far-right Republicans are fired up, and everyone else thinks we’re going to beat this easily and is not motivated to vote,” the campaign said in its email.

Also in Newsom’s anti-recall arsenal? Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who shot a 30-second ad for the campaign, warning California voters to “vote no” on the recall.

Will it be enough to motivate Democrats into filling out their recall ballots? We’ll find out in less than 50 days.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article253095863.html


This recall is no joke people. We need to treat this thing like the 2020 election, or any election. GET OUT THE VOTE! And vote no!
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Gov Newsom: 'We could lose this recall' (Original Post) Initech Jul 2021 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2021 #1
Trumpsters and other RWers will pull out all the stops. I hope Californians know what is at stake-- hlthe2b Jul 2021 #2
I hope my fellow Californians remember what we got LAST recall Grokenstein Jul 2021 #20
Yup! ffr Jul 2021 #27
So the republicans want a recall because Newsome madaboutharry Jul 2021 #3
It has nothing to do with the pandemic. Initech Jul 2021 #4
I know. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #6
Exactly! Initech Jul 2021 #29
More like hold one up. The Mouth Jul 2021 #52
+++ quaint Jul 2021 #11
He was arrogant. Flaunted regulations that he enforced others to follow. grantcart Jul 2021 #54
Once twice? Still not worth the risk of a republican gov uponit7771 Jul 2021 #73
What do you expect him to say? FBaggins Jul 2021 #5
Gov. Newsom has done fine work for CA. He's a keeper! oasis Jul 2021 #7
When is the "recall" Vote? Cha Jul 2021 #9
California Gubernatorial Recall Election - September 14, 2021 quaint Jul 2021 #12
TY! Cha Jul 2021 #13
Tuesday, Sept. 14. oasis Jul 2021 #14
Yeah, that sounds like what Gov Cha Jul 2021 #16
Agree! Silver Gaia Jul 2021 #8
Five at my house! (Well, my son is actually in England for now, but has voted from there before.) deurbano Jul 2021 #51
Extremists get their voters out there. empedocles Jul 2021 #10
Stupidest thing the Democrats here have not done in the past two decades: Reform the recall . . . Journeyman Jul 2021 #15
+1,000,000 oasis Jul 2021 #18
+1 shanti Jul 2021 #33
This was going nowhere Zeitghost Jul 2021 #17
Now the thing with his kids' summer camp Sympthsical Jul 2021 #23
How is that a facepalm? crimycarny Jul 2021 #38
He pulled them out once the information became public Sympthsical Jul 2021 #49
Ah, ok crimycarny Jul 2021 #65
I see nothing wrong with him pulling his kids out rockfordfile Jul 2021 #80
The complaint isn't that he's pulling them out Sympthsical Jul 2021 #84
I think that one was pretty close to the dumbest The Mouth Jul 2021 #55
All the hypocrites like to pile on how bad someone is, but they never want to talk about their demon SunImp Jul 2021 #69
That Is Just a RW Talking Point. This Has Nothing To Do With The French Laundry TomCADem Jul 2021 #57
Think that if you will The Mouth Jul 2021 #64
There Is Nothing To Think. I see a crowd of pro-recallers... TomCADem Jul 2021 #66
We had much better options that would have beat Cox The Mouth Jul 2021 #85
For a Democrat The Mouth Jul 2021 #86
you don't sound like a democrat. Newsome is one of the good govs in the country. rockfordfile Jul 2021 #79
His name is Newsom not Newsome ChubbyStar Jul 2021 #67
"That kind of elitism and hypocrisy is hard to overcome " bull fuckin shit !!! Really ?! This is a uponit7771 Jul 2021 #74
I live here and I dont underestimate the power of right wing hate radio here IcyPeas Jul 2021 #19
I've seen the ad on NBC during the Olympics ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #53
Show Twitler's orange face on TV all day as a warning to East-A-Squared Jul 2021 #21
That Berkeley poll was worrisome Sympthsical Jul 2021 #22
Oh shit, another lockdown and we will lose the election guaranteed. Initech Jul 2021 #30
I was in Safeway yesterday in North Bay Sympthsical Jul 2021 #34
We're not going to have another lockdown. No way people will stand for capacity restrictions or beaglelover Jul 2021 #35
We'll see Sympthsical Jul 2021 #36
I see, thanks for clarifying things. beaglelover Jul 2021 #37
I hope we can avoid another lockdown. Initech Jul 2021 #43
I don't think there will be a lockdown Sympthsical Jul 2021 #44
Yeah that's what my brother said last night. Initech Jul 2021 #45
I thought we all get mail-in ballots moonscape Jul 2021 #60
Oh, do we? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #62
I think so. That's why I moonscape Jul 2021 #76
Stupid things can start in California bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #24
Unfortunately true. calimary Jul 2021 #28
How does he go from approval in the high 60s to out of work all because ffr Jul 2021 #25
They only need a couple of states to start a constitution convention Fullduplexxx Jul 2021 #26
It takes 34 states and is an incredibly impossible hurdle. Ain't happening PortTack Jul 2021 #63
Yep, it is no joke. BeckyDem Jul 2021 #31
I just donated here. BadgerMom Jul 2021 #32
Everybody here gets a ballot. People need to turn them in. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2021 #39
Agreed! And Joe needs to support Gavin too! Initech Jul 2021 #46
Recalls are wacky, and the dynamics are driven by zealots and dark money. Ick. MrModerate Jul 2021 #40
We need to just keep reminding Californians that SouthernDem4ever Jul 2021 #41
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2021 #87
Wow Gymbo Jul 2021 #42
Newsome needs to say over and over that East-A-Squared Jul 2021 #48
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2021 #75
it does and dosent have anything to do with the pandemic AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #47
No it's not about not allowing people party . . . grantcart Jul 2021 #58
Yup hardluck Jul 2021 #78
Dems in general need to continue to turn out in '18 and '20 levels... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #50
Yup! Shut the right down in every election! Initech Jul 2021 #61
He's right and some of it has been the result of shooting himself in the foot ... marble falls Jul 2021 #56
I just donated. Hope it helps. nt chowder66 Jul 2021 #59
I understand WHY he's saying this... WarGamer Jul 2021 #68
Guv just needs a little luv. No way he loses this. nt BootinUp Jul 2021 #70
It may not be a joke, but it is a phenomenal waste TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #71
What's the cost? rockfordfile Jul 2021 #81
Google is your friend TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #82
K&R UTUSN Jul 2021 #72
LOL greenjar_01 Jul 2021 #77
He'll win, but it is good not to be complacent mvd Jul 2021 #83

hlthe2b

(102,310 posts)
2. Trumpsters and other RWers will pull out all the stops. I hope Californians know what is at stake--
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jul 2021

whether they like Newsom or not!

Initech

(100,088 posts)
4. It has nothing to do with the pandemic.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jul 2021

Though they are framing it that way. It has everything to do with a partisan power grab, and flipping seats and states to the dark side.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
6. I know.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jul 2021

I should have put the sarcasm smilie at the end of the sentence.

It is a step in their march to authoritarian rule over the majority.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
29. Exactly!
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

I keep saying that the people who are running the recall are people you wouldn't trust to run a convenience store.

FBaggins

(26,753 posts)
5. What do you expect him to say?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jul 2021

You can't raise funds or drive turnout on "this thing is a joke... they have no chance"

oasis

(49,393 posts)
14. Tuesday, Sept. 14.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:42 PM
Jul 2021

I happen to believe we're in pretty good shape, but this is no time to be lax.

Mahalo Cha!

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
51. Five at my house! (Well, my son is actually in England for now, but has voted from there before.)
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jul 2021

Just another Republican attempt to undermine democracy.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
15. Stupidest thing the Democrats here have not done in the past two decades: Reform the recall . . .
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jul 2021

It's far too easy in this state to recall people for the silliest of reasons, and easier by far for every whack job in the state to declare for the office.

Should have rewritten the recall regs well before Schwarznegger slipped into office. No excuse whatsoever for not doing so in his aftermath.

Zeitghost

(3,863 posts)
17. This was going nowhere
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

Until Newsome decided to to go to the French Laundry (unmasked and indoors) with a bunch of other politically connected friends in the middle of a pandemic and then lied to us and said it was a small outdoor gathering. That's when this whole thing picked up steam outside of a few right wingers. I have seen a lot of support on social media coming from young women in the beauty industry who were previously apolitical or left leaning. All they saw was their livelihoods being destroyed while he was out partying at one of the most exclusive restaurants in the world. It's hardly the worst thing a politician has done and hardly a reason to recall, but the optics and timing were horrible and 100% completely avoidable. That kind of elitism and hypocrisy is hard to overcome and would likely be impossible anywhere but CA where we thankfully have a healthy majority. I hope it's not enough to do him in, but if it is, we have nobody to blame but him.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
38. How is that a facepalm?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jul 2021

Serious question, not being argumentative. I thought Newsom pulled his kids out because the camp wasn't following the mask policy. Wouldn't it have been worse for him to leave them in? That would have sent the message that he doesn't mind sending his own kids to a camp that isn't following the mask policy he wants to enforce.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
49. He pulled them out once the information became public
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jul 2021

The camp advertised quite clearly and prominently that masks were optional at the camp - in contravention with state mandates. There is almost no way this was unknown in advance. It's literally in the waiver they had to sign.

The Californian parents on my FB are seething. Almost all Democrats, and most of them don't usually post political stuff. It's usually pics of little Henry going fishing. (Note: Henry, you suck at fishing! Friggin six year olds, man).

People were unholy pissed about the French Laundry incident. That had just about receded from memory, and now this. And this close to the recall vote.

It's a totally unnecessary own goal. I won't lie. I'm a little pissed at the stupidity here. This recall shouldn't be even remotely close. And yet, this stuff happens. Le sigh.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
65. Ah, ok
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jul 2021

I didn't realize the camp stated masks were optional when they signed their kids up for camp. It's hard for me to believe Newsom would make the same huge mistake twice. "Own goal" is a perfect description, so unnecessary.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
80. I see nothing wrong with him pulling his kids out
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:46 AM
Jul 2021

It seems to me it's just a excuse to say something bad against a good governor.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
84. The complaint isn't that he's pulling them out
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:16 AM
Jul 2021

He should. It's that he put them in in the first place, when the camp was quite open about flaunting state mask mandates.

Look, I am absolutely voting against the recall. I actually think he's doing a good job as governor in what has been a trying past two years. Not only Covid, but we've been having hellish fire seasons due to climate change. He's been juggling a lot of crises well.

But this whole, "Rules for thee, not for me," behavior by politicians is never a good look. People are bristling under the restrictions and mandates. When our leaders flaunt them, it's the kind of thing that gets your average voter pissed. "Oh, I see. I can't go for a meal or send my kids to certain activities, but it's fine for you?" It gives Republicans and anti-maskers something to hang their hats on. It motivates them.

We don't need these people motivated. We need our people motivated.

The Mouth

(3,156 posts)
55. I think that one was pretty close to the dumbest
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jul 2021

thing I've seen a politician do in my lifetime.

Yeah, tRump did a bunch of obnoxious stuff, but it was all to play to his base; the French Laundry thing with rich lobbyists (and prevaricating about it) pissed OFF Newsome's base, and - more importantly - the people in the middle who usually don't care.

Hypocrisy pisses people off more than partisanship, I think.

"Let them eat cake".

It's one thing to lose your livelihood in a tragic pandemic, it's something else all together to lose your livelihood and then see the person who closed your business scarfing down a $1200 dinner with a table of fat cats.

SunImp

(2,224 posts)
69. All the hypocrites like to pile on how bad someone is, but they never want to talk about their demon
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jul 2021

I see it a lot and it's annoying

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
57. That Is Just a RW Talking Point. This Has Nothing To Do With The French Laundry
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jul 2021

The folks who are whipping people to vote for the recall are citing the goals of challenging the 2020 election results and are pushing anti-vax conspiracies.

The Mouth

(3,156 posts)
64. Think that if you will
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jul 2021

but it's only part of the issue.

Pretty much ALL of my friends are not only Democrats but on the left side of the spectrum.

NO ONE likes Newsome.

"Not a Republican" is about his only selling point. It's good enough, but just another billionaire, with good hair this time, who will do anything to get into or stay in office.

I have no choice but to vote for his smarmy ass, the alternatives are worse, but then I'm pretty left of center, did not have my business closed down and am not in THAT much danger of being hit by wildfires (hello, billions of dollars of surplus and they are GROUNDING the ONLY firefighting 747?).

It's pretty much 'well, at least OUR billionaires aren't racist and have better hair".

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
66. There Is Nothing To Think. I see a crowd of pro-recallers...
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jul 2021

...waiving Trump and anti-vax signs. No one likes Newsome? Are you sure you are Democrat? Newsome easily won the primary in a Blue State. Smarmy ass? For a Democrat, those are some very Fox News like talking points without pointing to any actual policies or decisions he has made.



The Mouth

(3,156 posts)
85. We had much better options that would have beat Cox
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jul 2021

Chiang , Eastin, and Villaraigosa were much better in my opinion, any of them would have won, too.

The Good Thing is that our Republicans are genuinely crazy, incompetent, and self-destructive here, so no way in hell is one of them winning anything; Ah-nold left a really bad taste in everyone's mouth, but I've never seen TWO 'own-goals' like this before.

The Mouth

(3,156 posts)
86. For a Democrat
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jul 2021

cutting employee pay by ten percent while running a 76 billion dollar surplus (not counting 25 billion in stimulus). is *NOT* what a 'real' Democrat does; it is however what I would expect a very rich person to do.

When CA employees are get back that pay cut retroactively I might begin to think differently.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
74. "That kind of elitism and hypocrisy is hard to overcome " bull fuckin shit !!! Really ?! This is a
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jul 2021

... straight up piss poor reason to risk someone in office who ***CAN NOT*** govern worth a damn.

Follow any of these pols and be damn if there isn't a minimum of two instances of elitism a day.



IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
19. I live here and I dont underestimate the power of right wing hate radio here
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jul 2021

they have been pounding this every damn day. they have had republican candidates on their shows for interviews.

They have a large listening audience. They are encouraging all their listeners to go out and vote.

(Yes, I do tune in to these stations when I'm in my car to see what they are talking about... It's Recall Newsom and Recall Gascon 24/7)

I've seen only one add they are running (I forget where.... NBC or CNN or MSNBC) for Newsom encouraging people to vote.

I just fear the right's campaigns are stronger and louder than the dems.

GET OUT AND VOTE CALIFORNIANS. OR DON'T FORGET TO SEND YOUR BALLOT IN.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
22. That Berkeley poll was worrisome
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jul 2021

And he has two things working against him.

1. Republicans are highly motivated.
2. His handling of Covid-19 could've cinched a win easily. Except we're headed into a very uncertain school situation with stressed-out parents. (note: I edited this sentence) It's coming. People will take it out on him.

Mix in yet another unforced French Laundry incident where his kids were unmasked at summer camp - and then his office lied about not knowing.

He has reason to worry. Why he keeps Sideshow Bob rake-walking into these no-mask incidents is beyond me. Did he really think A) no one would find out and B) pretending not to know was the best option?

I just switched my voter registration to mail-in. This could be a mess.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
34. I was in Safeway yesterday in North Bay
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jul 2021

Maybe 30% of people were masked.

Maybe.

I am horrified at people at the moment. We're begging for it at this point.

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
35. We're not going to have another lockdown. No way people will stand for capacity restrictions or
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jul 2021

closing down salons and gyms again. The reinstatement of the mask mandate is about all they'll be able to do with this spike in COVID. Unless deaths go way up there is no way they can justify another lock down. Yesterday a whopping total of 15 people died in L.A. county from COVID.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
36. We'll see
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:42 PM
Jul 2021

I actually don't think one is coming. At least, not like what came before. People are getting panicky. I don't know why I said lockdown, because that's not what I had foremost in my mind while writing that post. I brain farted.

What I think we'll have to watch is the resumption of school and how the state and districts handle it.

That issue gets all kinds of people riled up.

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
37. I see, thanks for clarifying things.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jul 2021

Schools are definitely going to reopen in a few weeks, but in the L.A. unified school district, they are giving an option of remote learning. We will see in a few weeks how many parents take that option versus sending their children to school. I live across from an elementary school so I should be able to tell pretty quickly if the kids are back at school in person.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
43. I hope we can avoid another lockdown.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jul 2021

I've got travel plans and event plans, I would like to see those go through. The lockdowns last year really did a number on my mental health, I hope to the highest of high gods that we never have to repeat that again.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
44. I don't think there will be a lockdown
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jul 2021

I don't know why I typed lockdown. I was thinking of the school situation.

More restrictions, certainly. But I don't think it'll be like it was before.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
45. Yeah that's what my brother said last night.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

He said that what he's seeing at his hospital is getting very worry some. He doesn't think there will be another lock down and he also doesn't think that we will get to that point. But he also said that what happens in the next few weeks almost entirely depends on how many people get vaccinated. He's in public health, BTW.

So we need to get out the vax as much as we need to get out the vote!

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
62. Oh, do we?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jul 2021

I actually moved 18 months ago and never updated my voter registration. I was still using my old polling place 30 mins away, because it was by work and I didn't mind.

I knew I was liable to forget the recall - and also feeling supremely lazy - so I finally changed my address and opted for mail-in just to make sure. We're going to need every Democratic+ vote for this thing.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
76. I think so. That's why I
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:23 PM
Jul 2021

haven’t been so worried about turnout. It would be just laziness we’d have to contend with.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
28. Unfortunately true.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jul 2021

I still hate reagan with the burning fire of 1000 suns. I was never taken in by that “adorable” aw-shucks good ol’ “Uncle Dutch”. BULLSHIT.

Nobody bothered to remember the most important thing to remember about reagan: that he was an ACTOR.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
25. How does he go from approval in the high 60s to out of work all because
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jul 2021

of a bogus recall?

GOTV! Crush the minority!!!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
39. Everybody here gets a ballot. People need to turn them in.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jul 2021

Bernie needs to cut ads
Hillary needs to cut ads
Alex Padilla needs to cut ads


and they all need to say a vote for the recall is a vote for Trump.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
41. We need to just keep reminding Californians that
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 04:52 PM
Jul 2021

Republicans don't care if global warming burns their state off the face of the earth.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
42. Wow
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jul 2021

If the thought of Larry Elder as Governor isn't enough to motivate you to get out and vote, maybe the thought of airhead Caitlyn Jenner will. Donate today and donate big.

AllaN01Bear

(18,289 posts)
47. it does and dosent have anything to do with the pandemic
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jul 2021

1: this is a out and outright attack on gov newsome via outside of the state cash and the rqwjs .
2: many are upset because of lies and more lies and more lies and because people couldnt party , couldnt goto the beach, etc whilst the pandemic still rages . im voting for him. if he looses it will be devastiting for ca. it took us 10 years to recover from gov armholds policies .

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
58. No it's not about not allowing people party . . .
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jul 2021

It's about not allowing people to party and then have your best friend throw a $ 1200 plate no mask party on your birthday. Oh and by the way your friend pocketed $ 10 million in lobbying fees representing companies doing business with the state government. Oh and among Kinney's clients at the party? An oil CEO who heading the campaign yo overturn the fracking ban and spending millions to do it.

hardluck

(639 posts)
78. Yup
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jul 2021

I don’t think dems will be voting for a recall. I’m worried they sit on their hands and don’t vote at all because of his unforced errors which played terribly here. Then we have the motivated minority electing a new governor.

Wounded Bear

(58,674 posts)
50. Dems in general need to continue to turn out in '18 and '20 levels...
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jul 2021

if we want to continue the good work begun by current officeholders.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
61. Yup! Shut the right down in every election!
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jul 2021

We did last year, and we need to continue that momemtum! I hope Joe gets involved soon!

marble falls

(57,134 posts)
56. He's right and some of it has been the result of shooting himself in the foot ...
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:47 PM
Jul 2021

... You sure don't want to risk getting a GOP Governor over gaffes with a billions of dollars budget surplus in the balance.

Meanwhile, here in Texas: Abbott, Paxton, Patrick, Cruz, Cornyn, Williamson, Gohmert (think about that! Louie fucking Gohmert!).

I feel for you!

WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
68. I understand WHY he's saying this...
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:15 PM
Jul 2021

But he's going to win in a blowout.

I mean Arnold won because... well, ARNOLD!!!


Today CAGOP has 2 clowns, a retired ring master and the guy who cleans up Elephant poop.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
71. It may not be a joke, but it is a phenomenal waste
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:33 PM
Jul 2021

of time and taxpayer dollars. The recall is September 14th. 14 months later he's up for reelection!

mvd

(65,175 posts)
83. He'll win, but it is good not to be complacent
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 06:46 AM
Jul 2021

I agree - get out the no vote and donate if you can.

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