Don Lemon Is Finally Realizing What's About To Happen With The Covid Pandemic

[SoCalDavidS]

He is basically saying that he thinks we're in BIG Trouble.

That there are people who know things are FAR Worse than has been let on.

I agree. We're pretty fucked.

Cuomo had the former Surgeon General on, who said shutdowns are pretty much inevitable and unavoidable at this point.

[Tarc]

1. "We" ?

Delta will be the Antivaxxer Remover,

Thoughts & prayers.

[JohnSJ]

2. Exactly

[RockRaven]

5. Delta is also going to break our hospitals. Worse than the prior two big waves.

And when I say it's going to break our hospitals, I mean it is going to break the people who make hospitals hospitals and not just peculiarly constructed buildings.

[Tarc]

7. Then they should turn away those who willfully chose to be unvaccinated

Harsh, but they need to live (or not) by the consequences of their actions.

[BigmanPigman]

12. Hear hear.

[RicROC]

17. In those states where doctors can legally refuse to treat LDBT+ patients...

then, it would be 'equal rights' for doctors to refuse to treat stubborn anti-vaxers who present themselves infected with COVID.

[FoxNewsSucks]

20. I agree completely.

If anyone is brought to an ER from a car wreck, heart attack, or anything else like that, however many people who were TOO FUCKING STUPID to get vaccinated should be booted from their beds to make room. No exceptions, just kick them right to the curb. Sanitize the space and give it to someone who deserves it.

[Sgent]

35. I can't imagine

the Mississippi or Florida Governor authorizing a triage protocol of that sort. In addition due to EMTLA hospitals have no option to refuse care.

Its gonna suck.

[PortTack]

55. As a retired ER nurse..believe me when I say there will be triage if it becomes that critical

It’s an underlying protocol.

You have 10 patients and can only save 5, then that’s what will happen.

[womanofthehills]

58. Problem is Pfizer said their vaccine is good for about six months

Starting Sunday, people over 60 in Israel will be getting booster because of high rate of breakthroughs. So, people in US who had their vaccines in Jan, Feb will be more vulnerable to the Delta variant.

[BannonsLiver]

3. Yeah if only he was as clued in as us.

[liberal_mama]

11. Exactly! We could have told Don this was going to happen several months ago

A lot of smart people on this forum. As my dad says, "Smart people always know what happens next."

[Strelnikov_]

21. Why did you delete your post below

Little too revealing?

If you have such contempt for this forum, why are you here?

[BannonsLiver]

24. Because I'm a masochist.

And a Don Lemon superfan.

[Treefrog]

51. Lol.

I see what you did there.

[Maraya1969]

4. I am really pissed at the anti-vacers who used to be the anti-maskers.

We are all being punished by the bad behavior of a certain group of people.

[GulfCoast66]

9. Agreed. But at least they are the ones going to the hospital and dying.

Our local hospital chain in a county 50% vaccinated 97% of those in the hospital are unvaccinated.

Which means they are at way more risk than a year ago.

[Maraya1969]

15. That's true and I must admit I am happy about it. I don't want to wish ill

on anyone but if ill is going to come let it come to the selfish jerks who don't care about other people.

[FoxNewsSucks]

23. True, but the problem is

that those knuckle-dragging Fox watching morons are filling the hospitals. Leaving no ICU capacity for people with genuine emergencies.

[GulfCoast66]

27. So true. Can you imagine deciding who gets that one open ICU bed?

I can’t. But I guarantee you I’d choose the cardiac patient over the unvaccinated Covid patient.

[FoxNewsSucks]

31. Should be a no-brainer.

I am actually surprised insurance companies haven't taken action to cut off the morons.

In other circumstances, I would not want to be the one who had to decide who gets available medical care. But these days, I'd also give it to the cardiac or other emergency patient.

[GulfCoast66]

34. Not sure under the ACA insurance companies can do that.

But if they can, they should.

The next time the re-up coverage make it clear of you get Covid and are unvaccinated without a legit medical reason it’s out of pocket.

But even if a person has insurance, 2 weeks in ICU is going to be expensive out of pocket.

[Captain Zero]

53. Yep. Know of a recent 8 day stay in medical post surgery ward. $80k plus

ICU will make that look like peanuts.

[womanofthehills]

60. Mass seeing a jump in fully vaccinated cases

Numbers from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health show there have been 6,373 cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated individuals as of July 24, a significant jump from the 5,166 cases reported as of July 17 and 4,450 reported a week earlier.


"In recent days I have seen new scientific data from recent outbreak investigations, showing that the delta variant behaves uniquely differently from past strains of the virus that causes COVID 19," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky told reporters Tuesday announcing the new recommendations. https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-1207-breakthrough-covid-cases-vaccinated-individuals-july-24-2021-update/37172839

[GulfCoast66]

62. If I read the article correctly .15 percent of new cases are breakthrough.

And it did not mention if they were hospitalized. I doubt most were.

If you are vaccinated you are very unlikely to go to the hospital or die. And that the goal.

[sarcasmo]

6. Thankfully I have kept the same routine since March 2021.

[BigmanPigman]

13. Me too.

Yesterday I finally saw my dentist after more than a year. I wonder if I will be able to keep my Feb 2022 appointment or will Covid continue to keep me away.

[sarcasmo]

37. I'm back to ordering grocery delivery, no more in store purchases.

[monkeyman1]

48. me & my wife didn't get out of drill ! stayed to delivery to the trunk of the car !

[BannonsLiver]

52. We'll never go back

You can’t beat the convenience of online ordering and pickup (or delivery) and after having not been inside a grocery store in neatly 2 years I can’t say I miss it.

[roamer65]

8. "Bring out your dead...the monster is coming."

- The Stand, Stephen King.

[Mme. Defarge]

10. But ...

we do have extraordinarily good vaccines, unlike a year and a half ago. Surely some will get vaccine religion before it’s too late.

[lagomorph777]

41. Nope.

They already have that Trump religion, and it leaves no room for decency or common sense.

[MissB]

16. My FIL had to be hospitalized late last week

He’s getting old, fully vaccinated but having various health issues because he’s just simply getting old. His hospitalization wasn’t COVID related.

The hospital in his city was full so the ambulance tried to route him to the next nearest one in the next town, about 30 miles away. Nope, they were full too. So then they tried to route him to one in a slightly larger city about 50 miles away. Nope, full so head to the coast about 100 miles away.

Luckily the 50-mile away hospital found a bed.

And that was last week. Our state had a 1,000 case day this week and saw hospitalizations for COVID shoot up 25% overnight.

[GulfCoast66]

22. I hope he has a full recovery and does not catch Covid in the Hospital.

[MissB]

28. He's on a slide

Health wise it’s a matter of getting him stable for the moment. But he won’t make a full recovery ever. We are hoping he sticks around for a few more years but the incidences like this have begun to increase in frequency.

He was badly injured more than 40 years ago, and that’s catching up with him. He’s no longer very mobile, and that loss of mobility is catching up with circulatory system.

[GulfCoast66]

32. Well that sucks. But it awaits all of us.

My wife’s aunt lived with us for 15 years. When she moved in she was a vibrant 64 years old and still drove and worked at the local library. Had no kids of her own so we felt as family members we had an obligation.

3 years ago we had to put her in an assisting living place that is super nice. Had a bar and everything. Unfortunately we recently had to put her in the memory care wing where she gets more care and can’t wander. It’s sad to see someone just lose their memory and cognitive ability. I rather go out with a heart attack than that. Especially after seeing it. But she seems happy enough.

Fortunately she can afford the 5K a month. If not I don’t know what we would do.

Good luck. I hope he has several good years left.

[MissB]

36. It's good that she was able to live with you and your wife

for so long. What a wonderful sacrifice to make. It’s hard to watch them slide mentally though.

Every time we visit my FIL, he says the same three sentences - it’s a super short story about how he worked, retired and draws a pension. Exact same thing each time. He doesn’t otherwise participate in any conversations. It’s sad to see, and I know it’s hard on my husband to have such limited conversations with his dad. We smile and nod along to the short story but boy does it suck.

It’s a multi-generational household which is good for all concerned. My MIL gets to dote on her great grandchildren each day, her grandson helps with my FIL and everyone gets plenty of socialization. There isn’t the money to do assisted living if it comes to that but it’s a good enough situation.

[GulfCoast66]

38. We had to put her into assisted living for a fall, not her memory.

Although that was slipping. She broke her leg and laid on the floor all night. Never called out to us. The wife found her the next day.

We are often gone for 3 nights to 3 weeks. Had it happened then she would have laid there and died.

I’m so thankful we can afford to put her in a nice place. We both still work. And ironically my wife was never that close with her. But she had no one else and is family. It was not easy the last 5 years she was here.

Have a nice evening.

[babylonsister]

26. Terrible! How is your FIL doing?

Everyone will get short shrift as this virus has it's way with us again all due to too much disinfo and too many dumbasses.

[MissB]

30. He's out of the hospital

He ended up at an urgent care a few days ago but that turned out to be a good thing. He’s just on a slow slide downhill health wise. There isn’t anything that will stop the slide. He simply can’t move under his own power anymore and that’s affected his circulatory system. He’s battling constant infections, but fortunately none of them being COVID so far.

[babylonsister]

33. I went through it

with my dad; he got old (91), had a stroke, heart attacks, and then he was gone. That was a year before covid. I am glad that wasn't in the equation. I feel for you and anyone going through this.

[monkeyman1]

49. i'm in Arkansas,over 2800 today !

[patphil]

18. New cases are going up rapidly across the United States.

Over 80K Tuesday, over 84K Wednesday, and over 92K Thursday.
We could possibly reach 100K on Friday, and maybe even get to 200K before it peaks.
Allowing for a 2% death rate, that means we will be topping 1000 dead each day in a week or two...and stay up there for perhaps months.

It's so frustrating to see how a simple health issue like a vaccine in a pandemic has become a political litmus test for the Republicans. Just how stupid can they be?

Apparently very stupid. Very callous. And completely lacking in compassion for those who suffer and die from this disease.

[roamer65]

19. Sounds like the death rate could be higher than 2 pct.

India very possibly lied and the true number of dead is estimated to be around 3 to 4 million dead.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/07/20/1018438334/indias-pandemic-death-toll-estimated-at-about-4-million-10-times-the-official-co

[GulfCoast66]

25. Many of them will soon be very dead.

97% hospitalized in our local hospital are unvaccinated.

[SoCalDavidS]

29. We're Probably Going To Have Shutdowns Thanks To These Fucking Pieces Of Shit nt

[Silent3]

39. It's that we're permitting a breeding ground for new variants that concerns me the most

As bad as Delta is, at least those of us smart enough to be vaccinated are currently well protected from being hospitalized or dying ourselves.

But apparently we aren't as well protected from being carriers. That's going to keep the virus circulating, even if more of the unvaccinated change their minds.

And then there's the problem that, even if we didn't have so many MAGA idiots in our country, there's a whole poorly vaccinated planet out there cooking up new variants too.

If things don't get worse than Delta, I'm pretty sure we can avoid a serious level of shutdown again. But Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta... ?

[Hugin]

40. The shutdowns will be different this time...

They will happen because of (healthcare, supply, food services, and services in general) breakdowns. The people who do those things are sick or dead and there is nobody to replace them.

What we are going to see is what happens when masses of people refuse to EVER 'flatten the curve'.

Breakdowns like this take a long time to recover from. Much worse than the managed shutdowns of a year and a half ago. No reopening from a plague.

[lagomorph777]

42. If they won't flatten the curve, the curve will flatten them.

Say bye-bye!

[Hugin]

43. Yep Lago.

We agree on this 100%.

The funny thing about it is I am not a pessimist.

[lagomorph777]

44. I am optimistic that this thing will severely damage the fascists' ability to operate.

[SoCalDavidS]

45. They Seem To Thrive On Chaos

They feed off it. The misfortune of others. Sometimes even some of their own. It gives them strength.

And we get emotional and sad.

[Hugin]

47. I keep getting the creepy feeling I'm in an Ingmar Bergman film...

Where everyone keeps bringing up the fact the plague is in the next village over.

Maybe I should start smoking again. Screw it.

Take care, David. I really mean it.

[SoCalDavidS]

54. Thanks, You Too

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

[ZonkerHarris]

56. actually breakdowns in services and operations will feed their actions and help their cause

Look at weimar germany

[Hugin]

59. The only difference being this is a global pandemic.

With the next wave on the horizon.

[Jon King]

46. Goodness, the level of melodramatic panic here is getting ridiculous.....

For goodness sake, calm down. CNN and the media make money off bad news, it gets eye balls.

Take a breath and relax. In many blue states the virus is well under control. If you are vaccinated, toss on a mask, you are fine.

500000/day are now getting vaccinated. This surge will peak and be done in about 4 weeks.

No there will not be huge shut downs, the supply lines will not collapse. Many essential workers are vaccinated, trucking companies and warehouses have mostly vaccinated workers.

About 400 unvaccinated and mostly people with risk factors such as being overweight people will indeed die per day. Thats a choice they made. 2000 people will die per day of cancer, heart disease, car accidents too.

Calm down.

[uponit7771]

61. Yep, checked CDC chart (link) and its 500k a day. that's 15 million a month and 60 million at the

... end of 4 months

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-trends

We only have around 80 million adults left to get at least on 70% effective shot.

Yeah, if we're still at the oh shit stage by October then some bullshit is going on.

[monkeyman1]

50. unvaccinated - bend over & kiss thy ass good-bye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!