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Nevilledog

(51,184 posts)
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:09 AM Aug 2021

I guess we'll find out how requiring "proof of vaccination" works...





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Vashon Jordan Jr.
@vashon_photo
Fake COVID-19 vaccination cards are 100% a thing at Lollapalooza in Chicago. You can get it with a single-day wristband for $50. I have confirmed that it does work.
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11:51 AM · Aug 1, 2021 from Chicago, IL
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I guess we'll find out how requiring "proof of vaccination" works... (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2021 OP
I hope the murderous motherfuckers that had get their deserved karma. lark Aug 2021 #1
Lollapalooza should forward the attendee list to the respective states to confirm and pursue. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #7
I wonder if fake vaccine cards and the conveying of one's health via false means would be SWBTATTReg Aug 2021 #2
The only thing I find surprising is that there hasn't already been a flurry of lawsuits. Hugin Aug 2021 #4
I do agree w/ you totally. It is assault, especially claiming when you are not sick, and in ... SWBTATTReg Aug 2021 #12
The cards could be easily counterfeited using home computer equipment. nt Earth-shine Aug 2021 #3
My reaction to the photo is a quote from a former neighbor who had a way with words. 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #5
Time to bring in the ... Xoan Aug 2021 #6
I thought the 5G towers could identify the micro chipped sheep! Thunderbeast Aug 2021 #8
How does it "work" fescuerescue Aug 2021 #9
It's not very common. Yet. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #13
People better get used to the cards and issues like this BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #10
Vaccinations are on file with the government. Fake driver's licenses Hortensis Aug 2021 #11
Are they though? fescuerescue Aug 2021 #14
Good question, and how comprehensive beats me. But the county Hortensis Aug 2021 #15
Yea I'm guessing it's a county by county thing fescuerescue Aug 2021 #16
Very possibly in a bunch of states. The briefest of googles yesterday Hortensis Aug 2021 #17
Yep, and another poster told me this couldn't happen. Treefrog Aug 2021 #18

lark

(23,147 posts)
1. I hope the murderous motherfuckers that had get their deserved karma.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:12 AM
Aug 2021

But then anyone who went and expected non-vaccinated people to wear masks and behave responsibly is delusional to begin with. Hope this wasn't a terminal decision.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
7. Lollapalooza should forward the attendee list to the respective states to confirm and pursue.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 10:10 AM
Aug 2021

.

That is if they registered all attendees, like venues should do.

There is no true Vaccine Passport without the proper follow-up. While after the fact, it will get some arrested.

.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
2. I wonder if fake vaccine cards and the conveying of one's health via false means would be
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:15 AM
Aug 2021

somehow a crime? E.g., kind of like informing a SO of one's HIV status?

Basically what I am asking is that if someone is indeed positive w/ COVID, goes into a work or other environment, gets others sick, then are they liable? How does one 'prove' that the COVID virus came from them? You almost have to be in an environment that all of your group is accurately tested fairly regularly for COVID, all judged ok based on test results, and then a new member comes in, claiming that they are COVID-free (and in fact they are NOT).

What a mess...

Hugin

(33,189 posts)
4. The only thing I find surprising is that there hasn't already been a flurry of lawsuits.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:24 AM
Aug 2021

"if someone is indeed positive w/ COVID, goes into a work or other environment, gets others sick, then are they liable?"



Hell, yes!

It has been extensively tested in Courts since AIDS and HIV. It is also the criminal offence of assault.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
12. I do agree w/ you totally. It is assault, especially claiming when you are not sick, and in ...
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 01:17 PM
Aug 2021

reality, you are (knowingly). Thanks for the heads up on being tested in the Courts, I suspected as such, but didn't really know if it had been.

3Hotdogs

(12,400 posts)
5. My reaction to the photo is a quote from a former neighbor who had a way with words.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:44 AM
Aug 2021

"Holy corrugated shitballs."

Thunderbeast

(3,418 posts)
8. I thought the 5G towers could identify the micro chipped sheep!
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 10:39 AM
Aug 2021

Won't vaccinated folks have their house keys and silverware hanging from their foreheads?

BannonsLiver

(16,439 posts)
10. People better get used to the cards and issues like this
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 12:28 PM
Aug 2021

Most people won’t buy fake cards but some will. But because the US is basically a conglomeration of 50 separate countries we will NEVER have ANYTHING resembling a uniform data base. So the cards are it, more or less. I’m not going to criticize restaurant owners or whoever for trying to do the right thing with the tools that they’re given to work with — which in this case is a paper card. That being said, the event in the OP is just too big for the times we’re in, I’m afraid.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Vaccinations are on file with the government. Fake driver's licenses
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:10 PM
Aug 2021

can work when buying liquor, but not when stopped by the police. The places people really need them will tend to be verified on line, like employers, schools, cruise ships with stops at foreign ports. In fact, many probably won't even ask to see a card.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. Are they though?
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 02:07 PM
Aug 2021

Im my experience the government has far fewer "lists" than people imagine.

Is there really a centralized computerized list of everyone that has received the vaccine?

I'm skeptical. If anything because I would heard complains about "vaccine registration"

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Good question, and how comprehensive beats me. But the county
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 03:32 PM
Aug 2021

where we lived and ours were done had our records on line when I chased them down there after our first shot, though the immunizations themselves were a FEMA operation. Given the ideological resistance by some authorities, as well as the focus on getting millions vaccinated ASAP, I'd be surprised if records weren't very spotty. But ours are in some checkable database in case we need a vaccination passport or something, though which government's keeping it, state or federal, I don't know.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Very possibly in a bunch of states. The briefest of googles yesterday
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:17 AM
Aug 2021

on vax records brought up government sites for some states.

I was in Florida then, where I could see that at least some county governments were making far more of a good-faith effort than the state government's sabotage under DeSantis. Not exactly a model for evaluating the nation.

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