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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI guess we'll find out how requiring "proof of vaccination" works...
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Vashon Jordan Jr.
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Fake COVID-19 vaccination cards are 100% a thing at Lollapalooza in Chicago. You can get it with a single-day wristband for $50. I have confirmed that it does work.
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11:51 AM · Aug 1, 2021 from Chicago, IL
lark
(23,147 posts)But then anyone who went and expected non-vaccinated people to wear masks and behave responsibly is delusional to begin with. Hope this wasn't a terminal decision.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
That is if they registered all attendees, like venues should do.
There is no true Vaccine Passport without the proper follow-up. While after the fact, it will get some arrested.
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SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)somehow a crime? E.g., kind of like informing a SO of one's HIV status?
Basically what I am asking is that if someone is indeed positive w/ COVID, goes into a work or other environment, gets others sick, then are they liable? How does one 'prove' that the COVID virus came from them? You almost have to be in an environment that all of your group is accurately tested fairly regularly for COVID, all judged ok based on test results, and then a new member comes in, claiming that they are COVID-free (and in fact they are NOT).
What a mess...
Hugin
(33,189 posts)
"if someone is indeed positive w/ COVID, goes into a work or other environment, gets others sick, then are they liable?"
Hell, yes!
It has been extensively tested in Courts since AIDS and HIV. It is also the criminal offence of assault.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)reality, you are (knowingly). Thanks for the heads up on being tested in the Courts, I suspected as such, but didn't really know if it had been.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,400 posts)"Holy corrugated shitballs."
Xoan
(25,322 posts)chip readers.
Thunderbeast
(3,418 posts)Won't vaccinated folks have their house keys and silverware hanging from their foreheads?
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I've never, not even once had an establishment ask for my vaccine card.
maxsolomon
(33,384 posts)SF bars are ramping it up.
Do you go to bars in SF?
BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)Most people wont buy fake cards but some will. But because the US is basically a conglomeration of 50 separate countries we will NEVER have ANYTHING resembling a uniform data base. So the cards are it, more or less. Im not going to criticize restaurant owners or whoever for trying to do the right thing with the tools that theyre given to work with which in this case is a paper card. That being said, the event in the OP is just too big for the times were in, Im afraid.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)can work when buying liquor, but not when stopped by the police. The places people really need them will tend to be verified on line, like employers, schools, cruise ships with stops at foreign ports. In fact, many probably won't even ask to see a card.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Im my experience the government has far fewer "lists" than people imagine.
Is there really a centralized computerized list of everyone that has received the vaccine?
I'm skeptical. If anything because I would heard complains about "vaccine registration"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)where we lived and ours were done had our records on line when I chased them down there after our first shot, though the immunizations themselves were a FEMA operation. Given the ideological resistance by some authorities, as well as the focus on getting millions vaccinated ASAP, I'd be surprised if records weren't very spotty. But ours are in some checkable database in case we need a vaccination passport or something, though which government's keeping it, state or federal, I don't know.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)on vax records brought up government sites for some states.
I was in Florida then, where I could see that at least some county governments were making far more of a good-faith effort than the state government's sabotage under DeSantis. Not exactly a model for evaluating the nation.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)No surprise how easy it is to get those.