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Louis DeJoy is still Postmaster General (Original Post) Mysterian Aug 2021 OP
So what does it take to remove him? The Wielding Truth Aug 2021 #1
A majority vote by the postal Board... brooklynite Aug 2021 #2
Wrong Mysterian Aug 2021 #11
Explain what clout the Congress has on the Postal Board of Governors brooklynite Aug 2021 #14
Representatives and senators can join with Rep. Pascrell and make it a priority for the President Mysterian Aug 2021 #16
The President cannot "take action"... brooklynite Aug 2021 #17
There is cause questionseverything Aug 2021 #19
What statute says the mail must be delivered as a specified speed? brooklynite Aug 2021 #21
I would expect no more from you or president Biden questionseverything Aug 2021 #23
Of course he can Mysterian Aug 2021 #20
And if President.Biden and his legal advisers disagree with Pascrell? brooklynite Aug 2021 #22
They can choose to not remove members of the board and allow DeJoy to continue destroying USPS Mysterian Aug 2021 #26
Maybe a criminal investigation? lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #4
There is still one Trump-appointed Democrat on the board AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #5
Ah, that's right - forgot about the fake Dem on the board. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #18
Ron Bloom- Trump appointed Democrat, his term will expire in Dec 2021 according to wikipedia dsp3000 Aug 2021 #27
A vote by the Board of Governors Mysterian Aug 2021 #7
There certainly is cause to remove DeJoy. Let's get to it! The Wielding Truth Aug 2021 #9
K & R - This is an important OP Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #3
he's disgusting and i think a crook samsingh Aug 2021 #6
The postmaster general is the second-highest paid U.S. government official quaint Aug 2021 #8
Really? At only $303,000 ? fescuerescue Aug 2021 #13
if tfg could fire anyone at whim , why cant biden. all trum and bush appointees , please tender your AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #10
The Postmaster General does not serve at the pleasure of the President. brooklynite Aug 2021 #15
Biden's USPS board nominees aren't likely to oust embattled postmaster DeJoy, insiders say Celerity Aug 2021 #12
K & R Duppers Aug 2021 #24
Hopefully he's encapsulated like a foreign body reaction hunter Aug 2021 #25

Mysterian

(4,589 posts)
11. Wrong
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

Congress, our national legislature, still has considerable influence in the operations of our government.

brooklynite

(94,696 posts)
14. Explain what clout the Congress has on the Postal Board of Governors
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:33 PM
Aug 2021

There is a majority Democratic Board; one of them will not vote to fire him. How will Congress change his mind?

Mysterian

(4,589 posts)
16. Representatives and senators can join with Rep. Pascrell and make it a priority for the President
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:39 PM
Aug 2021

to take action.

Now, please explain what clout doing nothing has on the Postal Board of Governors.

brooklynite

(94,696 posts)
17. The President cannot "take action"...
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:42 PM
Aug 2021

He cannot dismiss members of the Postal Board except for cause.

Notwithstanding the last four years, the President cannot do whatever he/she wants.

questionseverything

(9,657 posts)
19. There is cause
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 04:44 PM
Aug 2021

Dejoy is deliberately slowing the mail

That’s illegal

I would prefer dejoy was arrested but I could accept fired

Regular, working class people need the postal service to operate in a professional, timely manner (as it did before dejoy took over)

brooklynite

(94,696 posts)
21. What statute says the mail must be delivered as a specified speed?
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:27 PM
Aug 2021

Given the choice between accepting the opinion of the Biden Administration and the opinion of bloggers as to what “can” be done, I’ll go with Biden.

questionseverything

(9,657 posts)
23. I would expect no more from you or president Biden
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:46 PM
Aug 2021

And for the same reason, neither of you understand how important mail delivery is ….not everyone wants to deliver payments electronically , what we used to only have to allow a couple days to reach destination now takes weeks

The statue says “to slow”

I have seen it posted dozens of times here at du and I am sure you have too

Mysterian

(4,589 posts)
20. Of course he can
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 06:46 PM
Aug 2021

The USPS is in crisis mode because of DeJoy's "leadership. As Representative Pascrell cogently noted, there is justifiable cause to remove any governing board member who continues to support an incompetent and intentionally destructive Postmaster General.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/17/us-postal-service-crisis-pelosi-recalls-house-early-to-fight-election-sabotage

Would republicans sue to reverse anything Biden does? Certainly. That should not stop the President from removing any compromised board members.

Mysterian

(4,589 posts)
26. They can choose to not remove members of the board and allow DeJoy to continue destroying USPS
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 12:48 PM
Aug 2021

But throughout our nation's history, presidents have taken actions that were certain to be challenged in court, including all of the New Deal legislation (when the Supreme Court was hostile to FDR). The crisis at USPS due to a corrupt Postmaster General requires aggressive action by the President. DeJoy is an unrepentant supporter of fascist Donald Trump. Congress can put political pressure on the President to act. That's why I urge everyone to contact their representatives and demand that DeJoy be removed.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Maybe a criminal investigation?
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:10 PM
Aug 2021

I don't get it. Joe has his board now. They need to be told to fire the saboteur.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Ah, that's right - forgot about the fake Dem on the board.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:44 PM
Aug 2021

We have state elections coming up in VA, NJ, and probably elsewhere - need to get this done, to protect those elections.

Mysterian

(4,589 posts)
7. A vote by the Board of Governors
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:14 PM
Aug 2021

which now has a 5-4 Democratic majority. Congress and the President should urge the board to do this. If they don't then the President should take the advice of Congressman Pacrell and replace board members who continue to support DeJoy, despite the ongoing disaster at USPS. It's time to do whatever is necessary to rid our government of traitorous Trump supporters.

Democrats who fear this scenario have pushed Biden to fire some or all of the current board members, allowing him to install a whole new slate of governors committed to removing DeJoy. This plan faces a major hurdle: Federal law allows Biden to terminate governors “only for cause.” Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell has argued that the president already has cause to fire the current board because it violated its legal duty to “represent the public interest.” According to Pascrell, the governors’ “refusal to oppose the worst destruction ever inflicted on the Postal Service was a betrayal of their duties and unquestionably constitutes good cause for their removal.”


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/biden-cannot-fire-usps-louis-dejoy.html




fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
13. Really? At only $303,000 ?
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:32 PM
Aug 2021

That's alot of money for sure.

But I'm surprised that's only #2.

What about all the doctors and surgeons working for the VA? $303k is chump change for a surgeon.

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
12. Biden's USPS board nominees aren't likely to oust embattled postmaster DeJoy, insiders say
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:30 PM
Aug 2021
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bidens-usps-board-nominees-oust-embattled-postmaster-dejoy/story?id=77217311

Critics of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy hoped Thursday's confirmation hearing for President Joe Biden's three nominees to the U.S. Postal Service's governing board would mark the beginning of the end for the embattled mail chief. But even if Biden's picks are approved by the Senate, industry insiders suspect the board is unlikely to have enough votes to oust DeJoy, in part because its chairman -- Ron Bloom, a Trump-appointed Democrat -- has recently expressed strong support for the postmaster general.

"Right now, I think [DeJoy] is the proper man for the job," Bloom told The Atlantic this week. "He's earned my support, and he will have it until he doesn't. And I have no particular reason to believe he will lose it." Tapped to lead the Postal Service last summer, DeJoy's tumultuous tenure has been marked by intense partisan scrutiny and an ill-fated reform effort that slowed mail service ahead of the 2020 election. Last month, DeJoy formally unveiled a controversial 10-year plan that would cut costs and lengthen delivery times, prompting renewed calls from Democrats for his dismissal.

Despite the sustained scrutiny of DeJoy, Bloom told lawmakers in February that "the board of governors believes the postmaster general, in very difficult circumstances, is doing a good job." Bloom, a former Obama administration official, has also taken on a key role in selling DeJoy's 10-year plan to Congress and other postal stakeholders.

"The current governors selected DeJoy, and given Chairman Bloom's recent hearing appearance, it looks like [DeJoy] still has very solid support there," Michael Plunkett, the president of PostCom, an alliance of postal consumers, told ABC News.


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