It seems like the new RW talking point on Vaccination is

[Johonny]

If you're vaccinated, how does people not being unvaccinated hurt you exactly. This usually coupled with the statement (BTW I'm vaxed or I'm a liberal but . . .). It's pretty clear it's a paid troll talking point because I've seen it all over social media and RW media parrot something.

I see a lot of liberals today trying to explain why it's still personal to them, but it seems like such a waste of time. Bill Gate's doesn't stop his malaria work because it's not a big deal at his house anymore. I get it, RW only care about themselves, so this is a sensical talking point for them. For me it's lame. Watching society needlessly suffer, is painful and wasteful for society.

Yes, it puts undue stress on or doctors, yes many have unvaccinated children, yes it's harder on the immune compromised, yes it's terrible for the economy ... Here's the thing, I've yet to see any positive of having an uncontrolled pandemic raging through society. Even if a vaccine has personally made me safer.

[applegrove]

1. Plus we need boosters because lack of herd immunity will mean it is endemic

so it never leaves. Then variants will develop and so new vaccines may have to be developed. It will kill children fighting cancer and others immunocompromised.

[Johonny]

3. I agree

[orwell]

2. If you are vaccinated...

...and you get Covid, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic, you not only become a petri dish for Covid mutation, but you do have a slight chance of serious illness or even dying, and you run the risk of giving it to others. Rinse and repeat.

With the Delta variant being significantly more transmissible than the original Covid virus, that means more "petri dishes" for a greater likelihood of new variants cropping up.

The key to beating this thing once and for all is seriously degrading transmission. That can only happen when high levels of herd immunity are reached.

[TexasTowelie]

4. My brother works for a durable medical equipment provider

supplying oxygen concentrators and ventilators. COVID-19 has been good for that business if you want to find something positive out there.

[GulfCoast66]

6. I bet it's booming now.

[Johonny]

9. The down side to this is

If you need oxygen for non-medical purposes, it's not as easy to get. Particularly if you need high pressure oxygen.

[Iggo]

5. That's not new.

It’s been a standard ever since the vaccine became widely available. They think the objective is to keep from catching it. But the real objective is to stop the spread.

[FakeNoose]

7. This will NEVER be over until enough people get vaccinated and finally end it

Yes we all have a stake in this. We need to make sure everyone gets vaccinated too, or Covid will never disappear. It will keep mutating and passing from person to person, group to group.

How many people do you know in your lifetime who caught or died from smallpox? None! Because the smallpox vaccinations that were mandatory when we were all babies or pre-school age, meant no one transmitted the disease. It's gone.

Polio is almost completely gone for the same reason - we've all been vaccinated so nobody can catch it and pass it around. Tuberculosis, diphtheria, malaria, typhoid - even measles - are almost completely gone from the United States now because modern medicine has discovered vaccines and/or cures.

So how do we make the Covid-19 go away? We have to stop transmitting to other people and stop catching it from other people. Vaccination is the best and safest way to do that, but also wearing masks, social distancing, frequent handwashing - you know the drill. If we all do that, it will finally go away.

[GulfCoast66]

8. Last year I was masking up to protect everyone including myself.

Now it just for me and the wife.

I really could give a shit if all the people who choose not to be vaccinated get it and even die.

I never used to think like that, but I’m out of fucks to give.