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Nah, that's okay, Jesus. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2021 OP
A great scene in "The Last Temptation of Christ" PJMcK Aug 2021 #1
The older I get the more I appreciate that film. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #2
It's not a great film but it has a brilliant insight PJMcK Aug 2021 #3
Good Film leftieNanner Aug 2021 #6
The book it is based on is also excellent. tblue37 Aug 2021 #9
I didn't know that PJMcK Aug 2021 #10
Thanks for the book recommendation. I will look for it. tblue37 Aug 2021 #11
+1 for Christopher Moore OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #12
I just started another book by Moore PJMcK Aug 2021 #13
Sounds great! OriginalGeek Aug 2021 #14
"I sent you four kinds of vaccines & epidemiologists, but you still infected & killed your wife." nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #4
Just like this: El Mimbreno Aug 2021 #5
I wonder if Americans will ever wise up and leave religion. Ligyron Aug 2021 #7
Alms for an ex-leper NurseJackie Aug 2021 #8

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
1. A great scene in "The Last Temptation of Christ"
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:49 AM
Aug 2021

Jesus resurrects Lazarus but then when Jesus moves on, his enemies attack Lazarus and kill him again.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
3. It's not a great film but it has a brilliant insight
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:59 AM
Aug 2021

Jesus slowly comes to realize who he is. While he's being crucified, Satan confronts him and shows him what his life could be like if he gives up on being the Messiah: a wife and kids, good home, good job, etc.

This is Satan's last temptation. Previously, when Jesus was roaming the dessert for 40 days & nights, Satan had tempted him with many earthly desires but Jesus rejected them.

So, as he's dying, Jesus rejects Satan one last time.

Evangelicals protested the film for whatever ignorant reasons without understanding that the film portrays Jesus in a very positive light. Of course, none of them ever saw the film.

It's time to revisit the movie.

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
6. Good Film
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 11:03 AM
Aug 2021

The Evangelicals didn't like the fact that it showed Jesus married with a family, which means he had that nasty sex. They didn't understand the meaning of it at all.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
10. I didn't know that
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:31 PM
Aug 2021

Thanks, I'll look for it.

The concept provides a great perspective of the man, Jesus as he develops into the Messiah, Jesus.

There's a terrific and hysterically funny book titled "Lamb" by Christopher Moore. It's presented as a new Gospel written by Jesus' childhood friend, Biff, and it details their journeys as Jesus tries to learn how to become the Savior. At the beginning of the book, there's a scene from their childhoods where Jesus, Biff and Jesus' little brother are playing with a salamander. Little brother smashes the lizard with a rock, killing it. Then Jesus picks it up, puts it in his mouth and brings it back to life. Little brother is vastly amused and the ritual repeats itself several times. Biff then says, "I'd like to be able to do that." Jesus replies, "Which part?" The whole book is filled with scenes that make you think about Christianity in new ways.

The whole novel provides a fascinating perspective on how Jesus develops during adolescence and young adulthood. It takes place mostly during the period in the Gospels where we know nothing of Jesus' life, that is, during the nearly 30 years between when he preached at the temple at age 12, I think, and when he began his ministry. Jesus and Biff travel the world so Jesus can learn about cultures and religions. I highly recommend the book.

By the way, although I was raised a Christian and was actively involved in different churches throughout my earlier life, my perspective has evolved and I now consider myself an atheist. Regardless, through my experiences, I've discovered that I have a better religious education than nearly every so-called Christian I've ever met.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
12. +1 for Christopher Moore
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:41 PM
Aug 2021

I love everything from him I've read but Lamb is my favorite so far. I am way behind though so I'll be looking for more of his stuff.

4 years of fundie baptist high school and more years of church 5 days a week and twice on Sunday made me the happy atheist I am today.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
13. I just started another book by Moore
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:44 PM
Aug 2021

"The Stupidest Angel" is a heart-warming tale of Christmas terror when Archangel Raziel comes to Earth but botches his mission. This causes holiday chaos and although I've only read a few chapters so far, it's as funny as "Lamb!"

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
7. I wonder if Americans will ever wise up and leave religion.
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 11:19 AM
Aug 2021

I mean, they have in most of the other 1st world countries.

Probably not in my lifetime, if ever.

Right now though, I’d settle for just them staying the heck away from government.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Alms for an ex-leper
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021


EX-LEPER: Alms for an ex-leper. Bloody donkey owners. All the same, aren't they? Never have any change. Oh, here's a touch. Spare a talent for an old ex-leper.

MANDY: Buzz off!

EX-LEPER: Spare a talent for an old ex-leper.

MANDY: A talent? That's more than he earns in a month.

EX-LEPER: Half a talent, then.

MANDY: No, go away!

EX-LEPER: Come on, Big Nose. Let's haggle.

BRIAN: What?

EX-LEPER: All right. Cut the haggling. Say you open at one shekel. I start at two thousand. We close about eighteen hundred.

BRIAN: No.

EX-LEPER: Seventeen-fifty?

MANDY: Go away!

EX-LEPER: Seventeen-forty.

MANDY: Look. Will you leave him alone?

EX-LEPER: All right. Two shekels. Just two. Isn't this fun, eh?

MANDY: Look. He's not giving you any money, so piss off!

EX-LEPER: All right, sir. My final offer: half a shekel for an old ex-leper.

BRIAN: Did you say... 'ex-leper'?

EX-LEPER: That's right, sir. Sixteen years behind the bell, and proud of it, sir.

BRIAN: Well, what happened?

EX-LEPER: I was cured, sir.

BRIAN: Cured?

EX-LEPER: Yes, sir, a bloody miracle, sir. God bless you.

BRIAN: Who cured you?

EX-LEPER: Jesus did, sir. I was hopping along, minding my own business. All of a sudden, up he comes. Cures me. One minute I'm a leper with a trade, next minute my livelihood's gone. Not so much as a by your leave. 'You're cured mate.' Bloody do-gooder.

BRIAN: Well, why don't you go and tell him you want to be a leper again?

EX-LEPER: Ah, yeah. I could do that, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that, I suppose. What I was thinking was, I was going to ask him if he could make me a bit lame in one leg during the middle of the week. You know, something beggable, but not leprosy, which is a pain in the arse, to be blunt. Excuse my French, sir, but, uh--

MANDY: Brian! Come and clean your room out.

BRIAN: There you are.

EX-LEPER: Thank you, sir. Thanks-- Half a denary for me bloody life story?

BRIAN: There's no pleasing some people.

EX-LEPER: That's just what Jesus said, sir.
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