This race is about one thing--and one thing only--the working people of Ohio.

[Uncle Joe]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[blm]

1. Every bullet point aligns with Democratic policy.

So why does she consistently tear down the Democrats in ways that manage to lift Republicans who work against every policy listed?

Strange way to support Democratic policy goals.

[empedocles]

3. Lot of strange way

[Uncle Joe]

4. I believe it has to do with the sense of urgency.

For example, Universal healthcare has been a Democratic bullet point at least since the days of FDR.

(snip)

At about this time in Washington, Republicans, conservative Democrats and the American Medical Association (AMA) were winning their fight to sink President Roosevelt’s proposal for health insurance. Congress was intimidated, and in August 1935 FDR gave up, signing the Social Security Act without health coverage.

Eight years later, in the midst of World War II, he once again called for social insurance “that will extend from the cradle to the grave.” And again, his proposal went nowhere.

On FDR’s death, Harry Truman became president. In his 1948 Message to Congress on the State of the Union, he said:

This great nation cannot afford to allow its citizens to suffer needlessly from the lack of proper medical care. Our ultimate aim must be a comprehensive insurance system to protect all our people equally against insecurity and ill health.

(snip)

https://billmoyers.com/story/lbj-launches-medicare-cant-treat-grandma-way/?fbclid=IwAR2voT1HqS2tDyBDfKugLUXSDbZii6so2w4fAIZnNR1pQJtw7S1d8RFa070


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016297980

[blm]

5. Lifting Republicans into stronger positions to

block that progress and reverse gains made has been her chosen path of urgency, though.

[Uncle Joe]

6. Then why are the people or corporations which back Republicans heavily

funding Nina's opponent?

[jalan48]

12. Including Trump Billionaire confidant and super perv Robert Kraft.

[Uncle Joe]

13. If Nina were so destructive to Democratic interests, one would think

the Republicans and their corpse would be pouring money into Turner's campaign.

[jalan48]

16. Looks like the wealthy and Wall St are very concerned.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Well they do have a lot at stake

(snip)


A September 2017 study by the Federal Reserve reported that the top 1% owned 38.5% of the country's wealth in 2016.[30]

According to a June 2017 report by the Boston Consulting Group, around 70% of the nation's wealth will be in the hands of millionaires and billionaires by 2021.[31]

A 2019 study by economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman found that the average effective tax rate paid by the richest 400 families (0.003%) in the US was 23 percent, more than a percentage point lower than the 24.2 percent paid by the bottom half of American households.[32][33] The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center found that the bottom 20 percent of earners pay an average 2.9 percent effective income tax rate federally, while the richest 1 percent paid an effective 29.6 percent tax rate and the top 0.01 percent paid an effective 30.6 percent tax rate.[34] In 2019, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy found that when state and federal taxes are taken into account, however, the poorest 20 percent pay an effective 20.2 percent rate while the top 1 percent pay an effective 33.7 percent rate.[35]

Using Federal Reserve data, the Washington Center for Equitable Growth reported in August 2019 that: "Looking at the cumulative growth of wealth disaggregated by group, we see that the bottom 50 percent of wealth owners experienced no net wealth growth since 1989. At the other end of the spectrum, the top 1 percent have seen their wealth grow by almost 300 percent since 1989. Although cumulative wealth growth was relatively similar among all wealth groups through the 1990s, the top 1 percent and bottom 50 percent diverged around 2000."[36]

(snip)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States#:~:text=A%20September%202017%20study%20by,the%20country's%20wealth%20in%202016.

[jalan48]

28. The economic elites say, "Quick! Change the discussion to social justice.. We support that 100% if

it doesn't cost us money."

[Uncle Joe]

32. I believe you nailed it jalan.

[Doremus]

11. She has been torn to shreds by a PAC supported by republicans

Apparently you didn't know that. Why do we so easily accept what we're told, go on the attack and later regret it? This is why we can't have nice things.

[mcar]

18. Good question

[BannonsLiver]

2. Lol

[nycbos]

7. Not supporting Clinton over Trump

Not supporting Biden Over Trump.

And then having the nerve to say that you are a Democrat and will be a "partner" of the President?

[Haggard Celine]

10. That's enough to disqualify.

If she couldn't support Biden, I see no place for her in the party.

[mactire]

8. One thing for you Nina!

If that’s your message, shout it loud ... and be proud and HONEST enough to campaign as an independent , because you are not a true Dem, and neither is anyone else depicted in this video. That’s what some call a Nina in a nutshell.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Nina's not Scottish either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

[BannonsLiver]

14. No, but she did compare our president to a bowl of shit

So it’s not exactly a fallacy.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Yes it is, Nina is a registered Democrat, she champions as noted upstream

'bullet points" that have long been Democratic goals for well over half a century.

The problem is our bullets have been slower than the ones in the Matrix

[BannonsLiver]

20. But what about the bowl of shit?

[Uncle Joe]

21. I believe Nina was referring to actually voting for

one candidate; Trump that would never go through with much needed constructive reforms or the other; Biden which I believe she believed would more or less just be part of the status quo and the status quo is unacceptable after decades of the middle class and poor being left behind in deference to the mega-wealthy and powerful forces in our nation.

For too long it has been Wall Street over Main Street.

The "government is the problem" and the era of the "big government is over" mentality has all but neutered Democratic power in my mind.

I believe Nina certainly could've phrased her feelings better but I understand her deep frustration as well.

[PortTack]

23. And voted for Jill Stein..she will block Biden's agenda every chance she gets

[Uncle Joe]

29. What is Biden's agenda?

[BannonsLiver]

30. And now we're getting down to what it's ALL about.

[Uncle Joe]

31. ?

[PortTack]

34. You are changing the subject!! He is our duly elected democratic president!

If...if we are able to keep the house we will need every vote to pass the democratic agenda. Ppl here go on about how Dems “can’t have nice things.” We don’t need a Joe manchin of Congress

[Uncle Joe]

37. I never said he wasn't. I responded directly to your belief on post# 23

"And voted for Jill Stein..she will block Biden's agenda every chance she gets"

So what do you believe is in Biden's agenda that Nina would block?

[PortTack]

38. Turner isn't a Democrat as ppl here have pointed. She obviously doesn't like Biden and will not

Vote for a democratic agenda/slash Biden’s agenda.

My point is as stated, if we are able to keep the house we will need everyone one to vote and support democratic majority bills.

Her friends: Shawn king, Susan sardandon, Cornell west to name a few would prefer to see the Dems fail...including Biden...that is my issue with turner.

[Uncle Joe]

39. Nina is a Democrat whether "other ppl" want her to be or not.

I believe Nina is all about the issues period. I don't know of anything that has passed so far ie: the rescue package or that is pending in which Nina Turner is against.

I believe Nina's primary concern is with the people in her district one of the most impoverished and neglected in the nation.

I also don't believe any of those people you listed want to see the Democratic Party fail, to the contrary, they want to see it live up to its' highest ideals.

[PortTack]

40. Congrats to Shontel...she will make a great congress woman

[Demsrule86]

33. She is a member of the People's Party ...her literature which was sent to me early in

the campaign said this. She is running as a Democrat as the People's Party can't run in Ohio.

[Uncle Joe]

36. Nina is a registered Democrat, she is running as a Democrat, the causes

and issues which she champions have long been (since FDR) Democratic bullet points as established up-thread.

Nina doesn't believe that "government is the problem" nor that "the era of big government (aka we the people) is over" which for all practical purposes served only to empower the 1%, mega corporations, lovers of monopoly and the Republican Party.

Whether in her ideal world Nina would want to be in the People's Party is irrelevant, she is a Democrat.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

22. She was talking about candidate Biden.

It was during the primaries, and she was advocating for what she wanted the Dem nominee to look like. Do you have something she did/said during the Biden vs Trump election?

[PortTack]

24. Won't ever forget her comment about voting for Biden or that she voted for Jill Stein in '16

She told who she was..believe her..leopards don’t change their spots

[mactire]

27. Thrawn amadan

Haud yer weesht! Gae away wid ye Nina!

[we can do it]

15. Sick of her

[PortTack]

25. Me too!

[Demsrule86]

26. I voted for Shontel this morning. Nina is not a Democrat.

And in order to get the things she claims to want, she would need to work with Democrats. Would that happen? I don't know.

[PortTack]

35. Thank you!!