My friend's sister is an unvaccinated midwife

[honeylady]

who is taking patients. Her patients know she is unvaccinated and they are unvaccinated and everyone feels completely at ease with this dynamic.

Damn stupid fucking people. Pregnant women are at risk for severe complications from Covid.

This is in east San Diego County. Bunch of stupid people in that area. She is a Trump supporter and an Evangelical Christian.

[hlthe2b]

1. Unbelievably ignorant and irresponsible...

[bottomofthehill]

2. play stupid games win stupid prizes

hopefully, no infants will be impacted by the stupidity of their parents.

[Grasswire2]

6. "you buy the ticket, you take the ride"

that's how Rick Wilson expresses the same sentiment

[Phoenix61]

3. The difference between genius and stupidity

is genius has limits. Their stupidity seems boundless.

[JoanofArgh]

4. Is she aware she's opening herself up to lawsuits?

[LeftInTX]

15. ++++++

[Ms. Toad]

22. Yes and no -

I used a midwife in this community when my daughter was born (in a hospital, under a doctor's supervisoin). The medical community was still big on heavy duty medical intervention, and while I wanted intervention when necessary - I wasn't willing to be strapped down the moment I entered the hospital so a corkscrew contact could be screwed into my daughter's head, or to have labor induced as a matter of course. Midwives who work with doctors were one of the few ways to avoid that (and also were more likely to be associated with a doctor who similarly viewed many "standard" interventions as tools to be used when needed - but not as a matter of routine.

That communty tends to be court-averse (trying to settle things through Christian medation). You don't generally get to one of these midwives without a referral from someone they know - who is also likely in the community.

So, while there is still the potential for litigation, it is far lower.

[mopinko]

5. i had 4 of my 5 born at home. shortly thereafter

the practice went full on anti-vax/quack cures.
ended up getting sued out of existence.

[zuul]

7. Ugh! That's awful.

[PortTack]

8. Shameful!!

[XanaDUer2]

9. wow, poor little babies nt

[Raftergirl]

10. Don't care.

They are all too stupid to for me to care about.

[Ferrets are Cool]

11. You are correct. Damn stupid fucking people.

[rickyhall]

12. Possible baby killer.

[Gregory Peccary]

13. Sounds like Duncan Hunter territory

Lots of RWNJs there.

[Warpy]

14. I don't get those Quiverfull broads at all

They're already putting each other at risk for common complications. Covid just adds another layer to it, it's just another day of doing god's work as dictated by men.

[multigraincracker]

16. You don't need legal abortion with

Infanticide.

[Hortensis]

18. They don't count babies who die with their mothers in the cause of freedom. nt

[Hangdog Slim]

17. Pro life huh?

Well she won't be a Trump supporting Evangelical Christian for long.

[calimary]

23. Indeed!!! "'Pro-life', 'eh?"

I do love sticking that to people when an opportunity presents itself.

Note: can be done gently and non-confrontationally when needed.

[FakeNoose]

19. Until you said "San Diego County" I was thinking closer to my home

I live in Pennsylvania and we have Amish people living all around the east-central part of the state. They're mainly in the Lancaster area, but not limited to Lancaster. So the Amish groups are all maskless and unvaxxed. The women mostly use midwives and birth at home rather than in a hospital.

I've been told that some Amish people are Trumpers, but realistically they aren't too political. They just want to be left alone. I don't think they ever watch TV or read a newspaper, however they do listen to the radio for weather reports and agricultural news. So guess what they're hearing on the radio? I'll bet I don't have to tell you.

Amish people ARE passing Covid around and some have died, but they tell each other "It's God's will."

[patphil]

20. These Evangelicals think God will protect them. It's just as probable that God will call them home.

[Historic NY]

21. Is she licensed? I'm sure the county nursing dept would be excited about it.

[honeylady]

24. I don't know if she is licensed. I just found out yesterday that she was a midwife.

I have no issue with midwives. I think all babies should be born through a midwife if possible. But I do believe they need to be sanctioned and licensed by a governing body.

My friend's sister is a total anti-vaxxer. I used to be. I didn't have my daughter vaccinated as a young child. I bought into the mercury/autism connection. I now know that I was hoodwinked. My poor daughter has never had the measles/rubella vaccine.

And she has bought into the QAnon nonsense. Full circle of craziness.