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LaMouffette

(2,039 posts)
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 07:06 PM Aug 2021

I wish, at the very least, that stores would be allowed to have special "Vaxxed Days," even one day

a week when everyone who wished to enter the store had to show proof of vaccination AND wear a mask, plus a photo ID to show that they didn't just borrow someone's vaccination card.

It would just be such a relief to be able to go shopping just one day a week among "my people" (the fully vaxxed mask wearers) and not have to be subjected to the "stink eye" from the anti-vaxxer-anti-maskers, not to mention their Covid germs.

Actually, on second thought, I would like it even better if they would reserve one day a week in which they would allow the anti-vaxxer-anti-masker idiots in the stores. Let the rest of us have the remaining six days!

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I wish, at the very least, that stores would be allowed to have special "Vaxxed Days," even one day (Original Post) LaMouffette Aug 2021 OP
I much prefer your second suggestion Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #1
Yeah, I can't believe I didn't think of the second suggestion first! LaMouffette Aug 2021 #2
They are "allowed"... ret5hd Aug 2021 #3
Anti-vaxxers are a protected class in MT, thanks to Gov. Greg I-Beat-Up-a-Reporter Gianforte LaMouffette Aug 2021 #5
anti vaxxers should be taped to their chairs like that airline passenger Blues Heron Aug 2021 #4
Agreed! LaMouffette Aug 2021 #6
I think Trump's teams lack of foresight to have an easy validation system Johonny Aug 2021 #7
Beyond that BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #9
*Sigh!* You are both right, Johonny and BannonsLiver. LaMouffette Aug 2021 #10
Yeah I hope state governments give businesses space to be creative BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #12
The point of having vaccinated shoppers only Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #13
Yeah, I'm still doing my best to only shop when stores first open in the morning. LaMouffette Aug 2021 #14
The anti-vaccination, anti-mask pinheads would be protesting Blue_true Aug 2021 #8
Anti-vaxxers should have no days. roamer65 Aug 2021 #11

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I much prefer your second suggestion
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 07:09 PM
Aug 2021

Give the unvaccinated one day or less to shop and the rest of us that have done the right thing the benefits of doing the right thing.

LaMouffette

(2,039 posts)
5. Anti-vaxxers are a protected class in MT, thanks to Gov. Greg I-Beat-Up-a-Reporter Gianforte
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:14 PM
Aug 2021

and the Republican-controlled MT legislature:

Republican Gov. Greg Gianforte on April 13 issued an executive order banning the development or use of vaccine passports, according to the AP. The governor said in a statement that receiving the COVID-19 vaccine "is entirely voluntary and will not be mandated by the state of Montana, nor compelled through vaccine passports, vaccine passes, or other compulsory means."


[link:https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/which-states-have-banned-vaccine-passports#mont|

He also signed legislation that reduces the power of local health departments to issue mask mandates to help curb Covid-19.

[link:https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2021-04-19/montana-governor-signs-bill-limiting-power-of-health-boards|


Johonny

(20,889 posts)
7. I think Trump's teams lack of foresight to have an easy validation system
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:17 PM
Aug 2021

plus, are lack of a national health care register makes proving VAX status sort of iffy in many places. Even in places with state systems, no one knows how accurate they are and most don't know how to access the system.

I doubt stores want to go through the hassle unless they really thought it would improve in person sales.

BannonsLiver

(16,457 posts)
9. Beyond that
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021

I’m not sure we know to what degree being vaccinated prevents transmission. There is some evidence already that it doesn’t as vaccinated people have infected other vaccinated people. If that is the case, I’m not sure what the point of having a vaccinated shoppers only day. I’m avoiding all crowds, vaccinated or not, at the moment.

Personally, I didn’t get vaccinated to protect others. I got vaccinated to protect myself. I assumed, INCORRECTLY, a super majority of Americans would feel the same way, and collectively that would assist in reducing the stress on our healthcare system and if we were lucky, prevent the virus from spreading. Unfortunately that did not happen.

LaMouffette

(2,039 posts)
10. *Sigh!* You are both right, Johonny and BannonsLiver.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:33 PM
Aug 2021

I do know, though, that I feel safer when I'm around someone else who is also fully vaxxed.

Here's another idea: Maybe store owners could register their businesses as private clubs. When I lived in Texas, there were STILL dry counties (in fact, a quick googling tells me they still do have dry counties). But bars can register as private clubs and allow their members to consume alcohol on the premises.

So if store owners registered as private clubs, they could possibly get away with enforcing a mask mandate and vaccination requirement for their members.

You would think the "free-dumb"-loving anti-maskers who so fiercely defend their right to do as they wish would respect the rights of private club owners in this way.

Or, hypocritically, they would protest this kind of system as being discriminatory.

BannonsLiver

(16,457 posts)
12. Yeah I hope state governments give businesses space to be creative
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:18 PM
Aug 2021

Some of the red states have made it harder for businesses to do some things. Like you whether it’s a false sense of security or not I too would prefer to be around the vaxxed and I’m not opposed to making life more difficult for people who can’t get with the program.

Anyway, it’s a big mess.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
13. The point of having vaccinated shoppers only
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:24 PM
Aug 2021

is to minimize the risk of transmission.

You have to be infected to be contagious.

Even though the vaccines aren't perfect, they do cut down on the number of people who are infected (by around 80% compared to unvaccinated - as to Delta). Fewer people infected, means fewer who can transmit the virus to others, so it would be safer shopping on a vax & max day than on a free-for-all day.

Avoiding all crowds is definitely safer. Some of us don't have the option of opting out of work-related crowds.

LaMouffette

(2,039 posts)
14. Yeah, I'm still doing my best to only shop when stores first open in the morning.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:42 PM
Aug 2021

During summer 2020, I would go grocery shopping at 24-hour stores only and at 3:00 a.m. But that backfired on me because at that hour, the anti-masker stockers and cashiers felt at liberty to walk around with their masks below their chins (no managers around to enforce the rules). Now I just do the go-when-they-open technique. Hardly anybody there, but I understand that most people can't do that due to their work schedules.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. The anti-vaccination, anti-mask pinheads would be protesting
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 08:20 PM
Aug 2021

outside on that day.

They are fundamentally assholes who don’t care about society’s best interests.

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