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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:51 AM Aug 2021

KRUGMAN-When people on right talk about "freedom" what they actually mean is "defense of privilege"

Freedom,’ Florida and the Delta Variant Disaster

.....when people on the right talk about “freedom” what they actually mean is closer to “defense of privilege” — specifically the right of certain people (generally white male Christians) to do whatever they want.— specifically the right of certain people (generally white male Christians) to do whatever they want.

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Why, for example, are conservatives so insistent on the right of businesses to make their own decisions, free from regulation — but quick to stop them from denying service to customers who refuse to wear masks or show proof of vaccination? Why is the autonomy of local school districts a fundamental principle — unless they want to require masks or teach America’s racial history? It’s all about whose privilege is being protected.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/02/opinion/Covid-Florida-vaccines.html
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/3/2043571/-Krugman-Freedom-White-Male-Privilege?utm_campaign=trending

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KRUGMAN-When people on right talk about "freedom" what they actually mean is "defense of privilege" (Original Post) kpete Aug 2021 OP
THIS! Dirty Socialist Aug 2021 #1
Rich! Yes, that's the single greatest discriminator. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #9
That's what politics in a democracy is all about Klaralven Aug 2021 #2
In a healthy democracy, those wnylib Aug 2021 #8
Faction alliances may shift over several years, but faction identities only change over decades. Klaralven Aug 2021 #10
So Orwellian . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #3
When you hear a rightie or libertarian complain about "government tyranny"... JHB Aug 2021 #4
A. Only 97% thinking drinking and driving is a serious problem??? underpants Aug 2021 #5
Presciently applicable to issues of election fraud, masks, vaccinations, Critical Race Theory, etc. Marcuse Aug 2021 #6
👆THIS! underpants Aug 2021 #7

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
1. THIS!
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:55 AM
Aug 2021

I have been saying this for a few years now. America is becoming increasingly a nation of privilege. I would add RICH white Male Christians.

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
9. Rich! Yes, that's the single greatest discriminator.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:08 PM
Aug 2021

Wealth, in it's extreme, is also the most potent poison pill for a representative government. With enough wealth, you can identify whom the majority needs to demonize and make it stick.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. That's what politics in a democracy is all about
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:59 AM
Aug 2021

People collect into factions to further their interests as a ethnic, religious, or socioeconomic group.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
10. Faction alliances may shift over several years, but faction identities only change over decades.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:25 PM
Aug 2021

JHB

(37,162 posts)
4. When you hear a rightie or libertarian complain about "government tyranny"...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:47 AM
Aug 2021

...it's almost always about government constraining them from being a tyrant in their own bailiwick.

Oh, they might not actually be tyrants, at least not full time, but they ferociously defend their "right" to be a tyrant whenever they see fit.

underpants

(182,881 posts)
5. A. Only 97% thinking drinking and driving is a serious problem???
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:58 AM
Aug 2021

But almost everyone understands that it’s a personal choice that endangers others; 97 percent of the public considers driving while impaired by alcohol a serious problem.

B. I was not aware of the dish detergent thing back then. 😵‍💫😳🤯

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/oct/13/phosphate-ban-dishwash-detergent

Marcuse

(7,507 posts)
6. Presciently applicable to issues of election fraud, masks, vaccinations, Critical Race Theory, etc.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021
Large parts of America have been primed through little issues such as phosphate bans to believe they don't need to know the actual facts behind an issue because they can simply substitute their paranoid hostility towards liberals for understanding.

Worse, they've given up any sense of responsibility as citizens towards the common good. Once people have absorbed the idea that wiping off an occasional glass is too much of a sacrifice to save the environment for the good of everyone else, it's not much of a leap for those same people to think that it's a travesty if someone poorer than themselves has decent access to healthcare, that they should have to take public transportation rather than leave the next generation with a planet wrecked through global warming, or that it's worse to raise the taxes on the richest Americans by 3% than have widespread unemployment.
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