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riversedge

(70,305 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:16 AM Aug 2021

Rudy Giuliani Admits Lying About Hillary Clinton's Emails In 2016

As is suggested, Rudy should LOSE his law license for this. Right now, it is only suspended






8/05/21 2:21pm
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Rudy Giuliani Admits Lying About Hillary Clinton's Emails In 2016


https://crooksandliars.com/2021/08/rudy-giuliani-admits-lying-about-hillary
This is when Giuliani began his run as the presidential ratf**ker.


By John Amato


Rudy Giuliani gave a voluntary interview to the Department of Justice's Inspector General and admitted that in October 2016, a few days before the presidential election took place, he lied and said he heard rumors from his FBI friends about an active investigation against Hillary Clinton.

"I think he’s got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises,” Giuliani said.

This was unceremoniously repeated around Facebook, Twitter, and famously on Fox News over and over again.

As The Daily Beast reports two days later idiot FBI director James Comey informed Republican House leaders he reopened an inquiry into whether Hillary Clinton had mishandled classified information.

This turned out to be the turning point of the 2016 election, flipping it to Traitor Trump. The country is still trying to recover from his four-year reign of incompetence.
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Giuliani previously went on ABC and Fox News and claimed that Hillary Clinton was very ill with no proof except to say he saw it on Google. He used more than whisper campaigns to smear the Democratic challenger for the presidency..........................................................



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Rudy Giuliani Admits Lying About Hillary Clinton's Emails In 2016 (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2021 OP
ReTHUGs have been lying to Congress without suffering the consequences for so long malaise Aug 2021 #1
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2021 #13
Agreed. They have been coddled far too long. Get pissed Dems. Enough BS and lies. nt Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #16
QFE: "Lock them the fuck up"!!! ananda Aug 2021 #21
This line from the article jumped out PJMcK Aug 2021 #2
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #3
Exactly. FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #4
Many Republican voters don't want fixes to the nation's problems. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #6
Well said and all true. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #9
I agree to a certain extent... but... FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #11
Also, the Republicans are very visibly obstructing wnylib Aug 2021 #19
pretty much sums up what I have always said about repukes... Javaman Aug 2021 #24
12 years out from Bush and we are still dealing with his f-ups rurallib Aug 2021 #14
I can't find WHEN he confesses to the DOJ that he was lying... msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #5
In context, it's a different story Effete Snob Aug 2021 #10
thanks so much for clarifying. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #26
Amazing isn't it, though? Effete Snob Aug 2021 #27
exactly. frustrating. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #28
the media crowned him "America's Mayor" mountain grammy Aug 2021 #7
Can't we just shorten it durablend Aug 2021 #8
So, we are supposed to believe he simply guessed that Comey would make that announcement? Effete Snob Aug 2021 #12
We see once again PatSeg Aug 2021 #15
"Lying or exaggerating is okay when the objective is winning. " And therein lies the problem. nt Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #17
And they really don't see anything wrong with it PatSeg Aug 2021 #18
Yes I think McConnell personifies it in the "normal" sense, and TFG in the dicktator sense; my rules Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #33
Yeah, different degrees of the same condition PatSeg Aug 2021 #35
with a side of dis-associated self-interest and total lack of caring for America. nt Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #37
The truth always comes out, eventually. HRC knew that. lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #20
Oh no, Toto, tell me it isn't true. 🤪 Firestorm49 Aug 2021 #22
i feel that this big mouth neeeds to appologize to hillary and on his knees. AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #23
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #25
Surprised he lied. No twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #31
He can always get work as a pitchman for a landscaping company. Hassler Aug 2021 #29
I'd say he should be assigned to bluestarone Aug 2021 #30
I'd rather the son of a bitch get work as a wheelbarrow pusher for a landscaping company jmowreader Aug 2021 #36
Republican liars are poison for America's democracy Champp Aug 2021 #32
Rudy knew Comey was going to reopen the email investigation. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #34

malaise

(269,172 posts)
1. ReTHUGs have been lying to Congress without suffering the consequences for so long
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:20 AM
Aug 2021

that they continue to do so.

It is time to lock them the fuck up. Further anyone who refuses to obey the coming subpoenas must be arrested.

Get thee to the greatest page.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
2. This line from the article jumped out
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:40 AM
Aug 2021

"The country is still trying to recover from his four-year reign of incompetence."

"...still trying..."? WTF

It's barely been 6 months since President Biden took office. The damages that Trump inflicted will take years to correct. What is this article's writer thinking?

FalloutShelter

(11,879 posts)
4. Exactly.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:15 AM
Aug 2021

I call this the New Jersification of national politics. Since I was a young voter in NJ, I've seen Republican governors crash and burn and Democrats then elected to dig out, then the ratfucking begins...the drumbeat from the press and the Republicans, that nothing is being fixed quickly enough. The Democrat is then swept out, the Republicans crash the plane again... rinse ...repeat.

Now we see this play out on a national level.

Ultimately this is on the voters who do not understand the magnitude of the damage, demanding unrealistic timelines for fixes and punishing the politicians that WANT to fix the problems when their unrealistic expectations are not met. I also blame the media for their bothsiderism and constant carping on those unrealistic expectations.

Here's where Joe can break the cycle. The voters get angry because they do not get the deliverables they want quickly enough. That's where the Republicans find their pay dirt by dragging the process down and causing the Democrats to fail. Like it or not, this is where bitartisanism and learning to take the half loaf may pay off. I say may... because the divide in this country has become so deep and so vituperous that I fear no one can fix this.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
6. Many Republican voters don't want fixes to the nation's problems.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:31 AM
Aug 2021

They want fixes to THEIR problems—mainly that LGBTQ are allowed to exist and have rights, women are allowed to have abortions instead of being punished for an unwanted pregnancy, minorities are allowed to have jobs that white people reserve for themselves and they’re allowed to live in white neighborhoods where their kids can go to school with those pure white children, making sure they’re allowed to have as many guns as possible (even if they’re criminals) and carry them publicly as a threat to other people, and promising that the US will become a Christian nation with the Bible as law. And they’re perfectly fine with rigging elections and using violence to elect Republicans who will pass ever more draconian laws to try to take away the rights of the people they don’t like.

Climate change, infrastructure, cyber security, foreign policy—none of that matters to the Republican voters who still support Trump and the Big Lie. Sadly, that’s probably less than the 74 million who voted for him, but still far too many who vote for lies rather than reality.

FalloutShelter

(11,879 posts)
11. I agree to a certain extent... but...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:50 AM
Aug 2021

Last edited Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Those are a subset of the R party. EVERYONE likes deliverables. Problem is they have not been getting ANY. Now they are and they will like them... and they will come along. It will not happen overnight and may not happen enough in a 2-4year span. THAT is the problem. That is where the backlash comes in.

wnylib

(21,611 posts)
19. Also, the Republicans are very visibly obstructing
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

the deliverables now. It might help in 2022 midterms to point out over and over that Republicans are standing in the way of the improvements that the people want. As delta spreads through red states and regions it is more obvious that Republican anti pandemic measures are causing it.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
24. pretty much sums up what I have always said about repukes...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:13 AM
Aug 2021

something is only a problem when it effects them directly, everyone can fuck off.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
14. 12 years out from Bush and we are still dealing with his f-ups
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:57 AM
Aug 2021

And Bush was minor league compared to Trump.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
5. I can't find WHEN he confesses to the DOJ that he was lying...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:27 AM
Aug 2021

When did this interview with the DOJ take place, when was it revealed to the public, and who is the source?

Is this being mentioned on cable news and is it being reported as "Breaking News" ?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. In context, it's a different story
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:50 AM
Aug 2021

Pages 9 and 10 of this report:

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/21-104.pdf

I believe it is more likely that the actual lie is the so-called admission that he lied.

In other words, during the investigation of whether Rudy was provided with inside information ahead of the October 2016 Comey announcement, Rudy said he had no such inside information.

To believe this “admission”, you must also believe that Rudy is a remarkably good guesser.

In the search for a catchy headline, the Daily Beast missed the actual story here, which is much more serious.

This may also relate to the recent search of Giuliano’s effects.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
26. thanks so much for clarifying.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:59 PM
Aug 2021

I rely on op titles to reflect on the pertinent subject.

it used to be a thing here....

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
27. Amazing isn't it, though?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:18 PM
Aug 2021

The real story here is the incredible statement to the OIG that he had no advance knowledge that certain NY FBI/DoJ folks were going to try to pull a fast one before the election.

Obviously, the lie would be "No, I was just going on rumors and guesses."

The entire "Giuliani admits lying to the media" thing is really "Giuliani probably lying to the OIG to protect his and other's asses" since there is no penalty for lying to the media.

But, look at the other reactions in this thread. Sigh.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
28. exactly. frustrating.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

I'm seeing quite a number of old stories, seriously outdated-common knowledge reporting as the story was about something that just happened or was just revealed for the first time ever, and that is another bit that I find frustrating.

I'm thinking, wow another slow news day I guess.


or an OP that nails the story, but with long thread of comments which are in no way related to the OP!

just gotta laugh it off....

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
12. So, we are supposed to believe he simply guessed that Comey would make that announcement?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:52 AM
Aug 2021

I believe it is more likely he lied to the OIG investigators.

The full context is clearer here:

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/21-104.pdf

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
15. We see once again
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:23 AM
Aug 2021

With republican politicians, they are primarily performance with no actual substance. Lying or exaggerating is okay when the objective is winning.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
18. And they really don't see anything wrong with it
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:44 AM
Aug 2021

well, unless the other side does it. Some people go into politics to serve, to make a difference, others crave power and believe winning is everything. It becomes a mindset that obscures everything else. Then they are often surprised when they get caught and held accountable, because they were just trying to win like it is warfare.

AllaN01Bear

(18,423 posts)
23. i feel that this big mouth neeeds to appologize to hillary and on his knees.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:04 AM
Aug 2021

these types feel ITS OK TO STEAL FROM THE USA GOVT.( my experiance w 1) these folk love to sputter sputt sputt , distract and lie . hide behind the flag .im more patriotic than you( personal experiance , called a communist pinko pig my my rop instructor in hs. i wear that badge proudly thank you.) hide behind the constitution . the bible and when cornered , they come out swinging.
rr did so much damage to this country as well.

bluestarone

(17,043 posts)
30. I'd say he should be assigned to
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021

HARD LABOR, busting rocks for landscaping companies in EVERY STATE!

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
36. I'd rather the son of a bitch get work as a wheelbarrow pusher for a landscaping company
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:44 PM
Aug 2021

Or, alternately, as a roadway trash collector on a sheriff's work crew.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
32. Republican liars are poison for America's democracy
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:46 PM
Aug 2021

The whole lot of them are fugging liars. Shameful.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
34. Rudy knew Comey was going to reopen the email investigation.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 04:45 PM
Aug 2021

So, that isn't the lie. I have no doubt some of his friends in the courts up in New York tipped him off to the fact the FBI had found possible new emails on Weiner's laptop and that they would be announcing this.

So is the lie here that he said he was making it up to protect himself or what?

But it's far too big of a coincidence that he said what he said days before the Comey Letter dropped. He absolutely knew.

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