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We now know that Jeffrey Clark, an unknown lawyer in the Justice Dept, until September of last year, was a snake in the grass and was working with Trump to overthrow the election.
He had been introduced to Trump by some Congressman from PA.
Jeffrey Rosen had become the Acting AG when Bill Barr left the position in late December. We still do not know the exact circumstances why Bill Barr resigned his position as Attorney General? But Trump began to call the new AG, Rosen, immediately after Barr left office, to try and get him to declare the election "corrupt". Rosen refused.
According to reports, the same day that Trump was attempting to get Rosen to declare the election corrupt, Jeffrey Clark was circulating a letter (to be sent) to the state legislative leaders in the six states that Trump had come close but did not win. He was advising them to not accept the electors that were chosen but to choose their own electors that would vote for Trump.
But Rosen and Donaghue, his Deputy, refused to sign on to the plan. When that happened, Clark went directly to Trump to inform him of the situation. Trump threatened to fire Rosen and make Clark the Acting Attorney General. At that time, the entire DOJ leadership threatened to resign if Rosen was replaced. Trump withdrew his plan.
In the interim, during one of the calls, the Deputy to Rosen, Richard Donaghue, had taken notes of the phone call Trump had made attempting to persuade them to call the election "corrupt". Again, they told him they could not do that.
Even after both Barr and Rosen had told him there was no fraud, Trump insisted that Rosen just say that "the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and Republican congressmen."
No doubt, he was depending on his propaganda apparatus to finish the job.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)Clark had sent those letters to the state legislative leaders ? If they didn't, did Clark have the authority to do so ?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)He had to get Rosen's approval and Rosen refused. If Trump had fired Rosen, no doubt the letters would have went out to those state legislators and we do not know how they would have handled it? But, it could have been an entirely different story than we now have. Joe Biden probably would never have been sworn in as President.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)Jeffrey Clark was circulating a letter to the state legislative leaders in the six states that Trump had come close but did not win. He was advising them to not accept the electors that were chosen but to choose their own electors that would vote for Trump.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Thanks!
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)leftieNanner
(15,150 posts)He circulated them within the DOJ, trying to get Rosen to authorize that they be sent out.
That's my understanding of the situation anyway.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)paragraph as saying he did
Jeffrey Clark was circulating a letter to the state legislative leaders in the six states that Trump had come close but did not win. He was advising them to not accept the electors that were chosen but to choose their own electors that would vote for Trump.
But Kentuck then updated it to include "to be sent"
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)A move to Ireland, his homeland.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Obviously, he was under immense pressure from the White House and their allies.
bucolic_frolic
(43,290 posts)Warpy
(111,342 posts)but Donohue and Rosen failed to follow his instructions (the pipsqueak Clark).
Clark skedaddled out of the DOJ, but should be called upon to justify his behavior. All the emails going back and forth should be subpoenaed, whether or not any of it is ever made public (likely not).
Mostly, they need to find out who was pulling Clark's strings, although I'm sure he'll be a good little weasel and say it was his idea. Phone metadata and emails will tell the real story.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)The phone metadata.
bucolic_frolic
(43,290 posts)Who "Congressman from PA"?
Mastriano?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I have not seen that name.
But he may know a lot more?
bucolic_frolic
(43,290 posts)"Whos looking to conduct the investigation?
State Sen. Doug Mastriano, an ally of former President Donald Trump and a potential GOP gubernatorial candidate in 2022, announced in an op-ed on July 7 that he was taking steps to begin a forensic investigation of Pennsylvanias 2020 general election results, as well as the 2021 primary results. Mastriano said the review will go a long way to restore trust in our system.
Mastriano chairs the state Senate Intergovernmental Operations Committee and has developed a devoted following of supporters during the pandemic through rallies hosted at the state Capitol and frequent Facebook Live events. He aroused controversy earlier this year when he organized a bus trip to Washington, D.C. on the day of the Capitol insurrection. Mastriano was present on the Capitol grounds but has stated he left after things were no longer peaceful.
Mastriano hosted an informational legislative hearing last year in Gettysburg, where former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Trump made false claims about the 2020 election being stolen. He also visited Arizona in June to oversee the states GOP-led review of its own 2020 election results. "
https://www.cityandstatepa.com/content/heres-what-we-know-about-doug-mastrianos-ambitious-election-audit
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https://whyy.org/articles/mastriano-campaign-spent-thousands-on-buses-ahead-of-d-c-insurrection/
Mastriano campaign spent thousands on buses ahead of D.C. insurrection
Campaign finance records show that State Sen. Doug Mastrianos campaign spent thousands of dollars on charter buses ahead of the Washington D.C. rally that ended with supporters of President Donald Trump violently storming the halls of Congress last week during an insurrection.
Mastriano (R-Franklin), rumored to be a future GOP gubernatorial candidate, has faced calls to resign for attending the rally. A review of the state senators campaign finance records shows that his committee paid $3,354 to Wolfs Bus Lines in three installments for bus reservations about six days before Trumps Save America rally.
The same week the payments were made, Mastriano posted an event on Facebook offering bus rides to D.C. on Jan. 6 charging attendees $25 dollars for an adult and $10 for children.
Mastriano refused multiple requests for comment. Senate President Pro Tempore Jake Corman says Mastriano was within his First Amendment rights and declined to pursue punishment.
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And here is the answer to my question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Clark
"Clark was reportedly introduced to Trump by U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania Scott Perry.[21]"
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Was he one of the Congressmen, along with Jim Jordan, that met with Trump on January 5th to discuss strategy for January 6th?
bucolic_frolic
(43,290 posts)Rep. Scott Perry responds to reports that he tried to help Trump overturn Biden win
Breaking two days of silence over a New York Times report that casts him as a central character in one of former President Donald J. Trumps last-gasp efforts to cling to power, U.S. Rep. Scott Perrys office issued a statement Monday in which the fifth-term congressman from York County denied any wrongdoing.
Mr. Perry was cited by The New York Times in reports over the weekend as working with a senior U.S. Department of Justice attorney on a plan to write a letter to Georgia state legislators, advising them that there was an ongoing investigation of vote fraud in the Georgia presidential election vote, in hopes that it would spur them to invalidate the states results, which showed a narrow win for now-President Joe Biden.
The proposed letter would have been sent in contradiction to other Justice findings that there had been no widespread fraud.
Mr. Perry then introduced that attorney, Jeffrey Clark, to Mr. Trump, the Times report said, and the conversation grew to consideration of Mr. Trump replacing the acting attorney general with Mr. Clark, in order to give his rigged elections claims a little more traction.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)That helps to tie it together.