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New York Times correspondent Nate Cohn, for example, argued that voter suppression bills, such as the one passed by Georgias legislature this year, are unlikely to depress turnout in part because they may backfire by angering and energizing Democratic voters. Former Barack Obama speechwriter David Litt followed suit, writing in the Atlantic that voter ID laws may have created an equal and opposite backlash, driving turnout among the groups intended to be suppressed and that Democrats should therefore embrace a compromise bill proposed by Sen. Joe Manchin III that includes a national voter ID requirement.
While telling voters about suppression can sometimes motivate them to show up at polling places, this backlash effect is far from guaranteed.
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In a randomized controlled experiment this year, I looked at how people reacted when they learned about a spate of new state bills aimed at driving down youth turnout. Using the survey firm Lucid, I recruited a census-balanced sample of nearly 4,900 individuals to take an online survey earlier this year. I randomly assigned participants to read one of three hypothetical news articles: a control article without any information on voter suppression, one about voter suppression that did not name any particular identity group as the target, or a similar voter suppression article that specified young people as the intended targets. I then measured how angry the article made people feel, as well as how likely they were to vote in the 2022 midterm elections.
The results were dismaying. While learning about youth suppression generally did make people angry, it did not make people more likely to want to vote. (Neither did learning about suppression without an explicitly named target.) Most concerning, information about youth suppression did not even boost voting intentions for young adults themselves the individuals who stood to lose the most.
Intriguingly, one specific set of people did exhibit a backlash effect after learning about youth suppression: young adults who strongly identify with their age group. But this cohort was relatively small. Most people simply didnt identify strongly with their age group. By contrast, people do tend to hold strong partisan and racial identities a difference that may explain why efforts to suppress Democrats or voters of color have provoked a stronger backlash effect in the past.
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Despite the best hopes of some observers, telling voters they are being suppressed will not always be enough to counteract that suppression. In the case of bills targeting young voters, that messaging appears entirely ineffective. As debate continues over how to successfully combat these restrictions, simply counting on voter backlash may be wishful thinking.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinions-democrats-can-e2-80-99t-count-on-voters-being-mad-enough-about-suppression-to-overcome-it/ar-AAMHlcr?ocid=BingNewsSearch
Cha
(297,503 posts)And, Marc Elias!
Rhiannon12866
(205,839 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)Mahalo Rhiannon!
Rhiannon12866
(205,839 posts)Each one is awesome, but together they have to be phenomenal!
Cha
(297,503 posts)uponit7771
(90,348 posts)At 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression after several cycles.
This is an issue of messaging people there's no two ways about this
LeftInTX
(25,503 posts)I'm like WTF?? We've had mandatory voter IDs for a decade now...
Even two decades before the voter ID law passed, I showed my DL when I voted, as probably most Texans did. (DL instead of bulky voter registration card)
People are poorly informed..
I know these commenters are probably republicans,,but geesh...how many morons do we have in this state??
ETA: They don't define "voter ID"..I've never been able to vote without some type of "ID"....Prior to DL, my ID was my voter registration card...This was going way back...People don't "get it"...GOP Voter ID laws now require an additional type of ID other than a voter registration card, which is issued to every voter...
Voter ID laws discriminate against people who use voter registration cards...90% of voters don't even carry their voter registration card, but there is a small minority who only have a voter registration card and not a state ID....The voter registration card contains a Voter ID Number, which in an of itself is a pretty strong identifier. However, it does not have a photo...
(I often here: I need my DL to fly...I need my DL to cash a check...yeah, but what about people in nursing homes or people who don't have DL??)
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... and now there's a poll on it.
People don't see voter suppression as taking away democracy because its mostly done to non-whites and that's "their" problem not our problem viewing of the treasonous act.
Democrats need better messaging PERIOD
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)mad we get, the Gop won't care. We have to try to mitigate the effects and put more Democrats in office.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts).... But that's okay I wonder how long it would take people to realize that their votes don't count after the Republican party fucks up everything again for another two or three generations.
All my voting lifetime there has not been one Republican administration that has ended with the middle class on top not one
They can't government they'll fuck up everything and then we can't both been out of office
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)gab13by13
(21,381 posts)are terrific. Thinking that those 3 people will handle everything is a big mistake, that's not coming from me, that's coming from Marc Elias.
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)And federal legislation
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)And come up with a short slogan that works. Voter suppression sounds too much like pablum, like youre putting out the grill fire. Its a meh phrase. Come at it from another angle. Get the media consultants in there and test it. Find out what the populace reacts to.
Republicans are historically good at this (but liars). Dems are not.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)Maybe that's why they are so successful; their lies are fashioned to tell people what they want to hear rather than the awful truth. What people want to hear is anything other than they may have to accept or do something they find bothersome.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,673 posts)Voter suppression should be an Every american problem, but R's are cowards and always have been
The quick short slogans are empty
Explaining somewhat complex ideas should not be a problem, but now we live in a what has happened in the last 10 seconds society, that need to stop.
D's care about everybody and that is complex. let that sink in!
R's care about themselves, donor's and white rich people, if you can't see that you are in the cult.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,387 posts)gab13by13
(21,381 posts)Marc Elias admitted he isn't going to win every court case, especially with 4 SC justices making statements that the state's rights to regulate elections is supreme.
malthaussen
(17,215 posts)hay rick
(7,633 posts)It's Adam Smith's invisible hand applied to the ballot box. It's a warm and comfortable fantasy.
SYFROYH
(34,183 posts)After Stacey Abrams lost the gubernatorial election in 2018 by only 55,000 votes. She lost to Brian Kemp who was then Secretary of State and oversaw the voter suppression efforts. Democrats were hopping mad about voter suppression.
Voters had a chance to fix the problem with a run-off for race for Secretary of State between John Barrow (D) and Brad Raffensperger (R). There was a lot of advertising. It should have been a landslide for Barrow given the recent history, but Democrats did not turn out.
I'm not saying we can't do better, but I think it's not guaranteed either.