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What's happening in Afghanistan is heartbreaking (Original Post) samsingh Aug 2021 OP
I agree. I honestly don't understand why the Afghanistan army is allowing this jimfields33 Aug 2021 #1
Yes, entirely predictable, but enough is enough. Fix The Stupid Aug 2021 #2
The ones with guns North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #3
we should equip their army, provide training, and continue support samsingh Aug 2021 #4
at this point...i dont see a choice Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #6
That was my idea... but the world doesnt give a shit Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #9
Yes, I can look away...sorry. Fix The Stupid Aug 2021 #11
Youre bothered ? Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #5
i agree with you samsingh Aug 2021 #10
It's easy to understand. The side with fervor will ultimately prevail Ron Green Aug 2021 #7
KNR Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #8
It sucks, but what do we do? Calculating Aug 2021 #12

jimfields33

(15,915 posts)
1. I agree. I honestly don't understand why the Afghanistan army is allowing this
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:56 AM
Aug 2021

I know some quit, but surely they must have a decent sized army by now.

Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
2. Yes, entirely predictable, but enough is enough.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:03 AM
Aug 2021

No more. Not a penny more spent on that "country".

Either they stand on their own, or they don't.

You cannot change the "hearts and minds" of those who cannot be reasoned with.

Someone here mentioned that other countries should offer amnesty or organize some kind of exodus to get as many women out of there as possible.

I think that is a great idea. Try something different.

North Shore Chicago

(3,321 posts)
3. The ones with guns
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:06 AM
Aug 2021

The ones with military equipment dominate, conquer and destroy. Women and children will do most of the suffering. Per usual.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
9. That was my idea... but the world doesnt give a shit
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:05 AM
Aug 2021

Those hearts and minds youre talking about are of the taliban.

FIX...SIMPLE question

Can you honestly look away and ignore the murder of kids, the atrocities and the unspeakable horror of young girls ?


you know where i stand...i wait for your reply.


Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
11. Yes, I can look away...sorry.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:03 PM
Aug 2021


I blame religion, tribal politics, paternalism, etc.etc.

I don't believe you can change these things with military might.

There needs to be an "awakening" in some of these backwards countries.

It will take education. Lots of education - not so much religion.

And I still believe that the women of Afghanistan hold more power then they realize, (Actually, I think all women underestimate just how much power they actually wield..) but they need to be mobilized and supported.

I could support some kind of program to that affect, but I cannot justify a single soldier or any military campaign being brought there again. Ever.

War is just a racket for governments to move money from 1 pocket to another pocket. It really is that simple...

Who supplies the soldiers meals? Clothes? Medicine? etc, etc.

Who supplies the arms? The tanks, the fuel to run them?

Once you get the answers to those questions, you will see how phony these last wars have been...it has never been about "nation building" or "regime change" - it's all about those *TRILLIONs* of $$ that flow out of gov't coffers in war time... always has been - always will be.



 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
5. Youre bothered ?
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

i am sickened to my stomach.

I've been posting articles as to whats going on over there...and no one really cares.

i understand its frustrating .

the young girls are in hiding or went to kabul.

27+ KIDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MURDERED !!

Biden better come up with an international plan.

Do we have some responsibility ? I think we do. Not necessarily troops on the ground.

The taliban are a bunch of sickos.

Calculating

(2,957 posts)
12. It sucks, but what do we do?
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

The problem is religious and tribal in nature. How do you stop an idea? Unless we simply want to KILL everyone who follows the Taliban I don't know what can be done. The Taliban is deeply ingrained in Afghanistan culture and politics, that's why so many of the Afghan army have been simply throwing down their guns and going home, they SUPPORT the Taliban.

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