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Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:27 PM Aug 2021

Texas Supreme Court allows for arrest of Democrats who don't show up to the legislature

Overruling the lower court. This really angers me.


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/10/texas-greg-abbott-democrats-special-session/amp/

Snip:

House Democrats who refuse to show up for the Legislature could soon be detained by law enforcement and brought back to the state Capitol, after the Texas Supreme Court on Tuesday voided a state district judge's temporary restraining order barring their arrest.

The all-Republican high court's order came at the request of Gov. Greg Abbott and House Speaker Dade Phelan, also both Republicans, who petitioned the court on Monday to overturn a recent ruling by a Travis County district judge that blocked them from ordering the arrest of quorum-busting Democrats, who were in Washington, D.C., for about a month. The House Democrats in the suit have until Thursday at 4 p.m. to respond to the court.

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Texas Supreme Court allows for arrest of Democrats who don't show up to the legislature (Original Post) Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 OP
The few that went back to Texas this week had better be on a flight out ASAP nt AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Aug 2021 #11
I think they are sequestered in the building so they can't leave. They now have 13 Dems or so. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #14
How much longer do they have? ColinC Aug 2021 #15
IDK, I saw some article the other day which said if you showed up, you can't leave the building. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #16
Yeah I think it's cutting close. ColinC Aug 2021 #17
Here's one link. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #18
Thanks! ColinC Aug 2021 #19
Months FBaggins Aug 2021 #21
I was expecting this. But that sure was fast! ananda Aug 2021 #2
Just seems like RETHUGS ALWAYS bluestarone Aug 2021 #7
The rigged legislature that is the Texas Supreme Court Dawson Leery Aug 2021 #3
They are elected LeftInTX Aug 2021 #6
Can they arrest in Washington DC?? Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #4
Only in Texas. nt Phoenix61 Aug 2021 #5
I thought this ruling was curious. Legislative bodies typically have broad power to enforce quorums. tritsofme Aug 2021 #8
It was just a TRO while they made their case in a week or so FBaggins Aug 2021 #10
Not much of a surprise FBaggins Aug 2021 #9
Look for a law to go on the books AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #12
Can they vote from jail? greymattermom Aug 2021 #13
I think they can be arrested and brought to the chamber, maybe? ColinC Aug 2021 #20
"Arrested" just means "seized by legal authority" FBaggins Aug 2021 #22

Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #1)

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
14. I think they are sequestered in the building so they can't leave. They now have 13 Dems or so.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:28 PM
Aug 2021

.

Bringing their number just 6 shy from a quorum.

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ColinC

(8,323 posts)
17. Yeah I think it's cutting close.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:41 PM
Aug 2021

Also I heard that there might be enough TX reps with covid to still avoid quorum. Wonder if that's true...

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
18. Here's one link.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:45 PM
Aug 2021

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“Many of the people were here spent 24 hours working on that bill over the weekend,” said State Rep. Jim Murphy, who chairs the Texas House GOP Caucus, in a Tuesday press conference, citing the marathon hearings over the weekend focused on the election legislation during which members of both parties participated. “Those bills can be amended on the House floor. It is their legislation. It’s theirs to shape, it’s theirs to work on. And we await their presence.”

House members implemented a call on the House, which compels lawmakers to return to their desks to complete the chamber’s business. Members who are absent are then subject to arrest or brought back to the chamber by any means necessary, House Speaker Dade Phelan, R-Beaumont, said.

After the House doors were locked, members of the House Sergeant at Arms’ office and Texas Department of Public Safety Troopers were dispatched to Capitol offices, and even homes and workplaces of state lawmakers, according to State Rep. Eddie Morales, D-Eagle Pass, who was one of four Democrats to stay at the Capitol. The other Democrats who stayed behind were Tracy King of Batesville, Ryan Guillen of Rio Grande City and John Turner of Dallas. Turner said he stayed to monitor the chamber activity and ensure protocols were followed.

The Speaker issued individual permission slips for members who were present to leave the chamber and return at a designated time.


While Republicans will check in each day, Democrats say their East Coast trip is indefinite, but they are preparing for a long haul.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/statehouse-reaches-stalemate-as-texas-democrats-break-quorum-and-republicans-lock-doors/

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FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
21. Months
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:34 PM
Aug 2021

Any action in the senate dies at the end of the 30-day session (which started on Saturday), but nothing keeps the governor from calling a new session minutes after this one ends.

This was never about actually killing the legislation unless Congress were to act or public opinion in Texas turned heavily in their favor.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. The rigged legislature that is the Texas Supreme Court
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:29 PM
Aug 2021

is abusing it's power (which is typical of the right).

tritsofme

(17,396 posts)
8. I thought this ruling was curious. Legislative bodies typically have broad power to enforce quorums.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:43 PM
Aug 2021

If the members are present in the state, their attendance can generally be compelled.

FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
10. It was just a TRO while they made their case in a week or so
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:05 PM
Aug 2021

Even that was a surprise, since (as you note) there doesn't seem to be much of a case.

FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
9. Not much of a surprise
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:03 PM
Aug 2021

It isn't so much "overruling" since the lower court hadn't made a "ruling". This outcome was highly likely either today or in a couple of weeks. The law here is pretty clear. The legislators who remain when a quorum is lacking have the power to "compel" the attendance of those who won't show up.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
12. Look for a law to go on the books
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:11 PM
Aug 2021

Indiana General Assembly Dems did this back in 2011 to fight Right to Work, a union-busting measure. They delayed numerous sessions for weeks by going to Illinois, and denying a quorum.

There is now a law about “legislative bolting” — only here, a civil penalty can be imposed.

Who among us is left who still believes government works for US?

FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
22. "Arrested" just means "seized by legal authority"
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:37 PM
Aug 2021

This isn't a criminal arrest taking them to jail. They would be taken to the legislature and held there for the quorum (literally locking the doors).

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