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marble falls

(57,154 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:00 PM Aug 2021

Update: VA called - No Covid. My week with Covid ...

Last edited Thu Aug 12, 2021, 05:54 PM - Edit history (1)

A week ago, I took a neighbor to the local hospital emergency after he was warned by the local bus service he had been exposed to Covid and I had purchased a Covid test and administered it to him and drew a positive.

As I drove him to the hospital, he told me he hadn't had the vaccination. For three year, because he has Huntingtons and physical problems, I had coffee with him several times from takeout and when the pandemic got heavy last year, I started making the coffee and bringing it in. We've talked about Covid and we discussed vaxxing. He never said anything negative about masking or vaxxing, he mentioned going to get the vax.

He was diagnosed and given the new infusion treatment, and told because of his clear lungs to go home for two weeks.

The upshot.

On Sunday, after dinner, I got chills and aches that went on for two hours of one of the worst sicks I've ever had. We called VA and were told to go to the local Scott and White hospital. As we were leaving, I felt a need to 'bork', I didn't heave but immediately felt better and off we went.

I explained what had happened, what my symptoms were, and they told my wife to go home and asked me to find a seat.

When we had arrived, the parking lot was full. The waiting room had maybe six - eight people. After an hour and a half of waiting, I noticed no one had been called in, I went to the counter and found out that were not testing for Covid, the beds were filled and that while that were trying to call in personnel from Austin, it was eight to nine hours to triage. That they were sending all "mild Covid" home.

I felt just about normal by this time and called Mrs MFalls to bum a ride.

Yesterday, the friend's brother called to thank me for possibly saving his brother's life. I felt he was rubbing it in when I found out the whole family was unvaxxed.

I told him he needed to thank me for spending at least an hour talking the Constable from arresting his brother two weeks before that.

Now for the worst of it.

I've had a lump requiring a biopsy, that took a lot of finagling to get an appointment for today.

When they asked me if I had had any contact with Covid in the last two weeks, I told the truth.

We were told not to come into the building, to go out to the Covid testing. I got tested and told that results would be ready in 24-48 hours. The Doctor who administered the test was dressed for Ebola.

Two more weeks to sweat whether I have a fourth cancer.

But it gets even worse.

We've been responsible for over a year and a half, and the two times we've broken protocol in the last two weeks have had bad repercussions.

After staying away from church since February 2020, she went back for a retirement part for the music directer two weeks ago. The director and her husband got COVID - last week he went on a ventilator, and six others, including the ninety-year-old lady sitting next to her.

Not one was vaxxed.


I have never felt the rage I do now over all these unvaxxed.

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Update: VA called - No Covid. My week with Covid ... (Original Post) marble falls Aug 2021 OP
Let us know if the test is positive. LisaL Aug 2021 #1
Yes, but even that test says with a positive, go get another test. I got tested at VA and I'll ... marble falls Aug 2021 #5
how did your test go? you're negative i hope. nt orleans Aug 2021 #69
Updated in the body: Negative! We've tightened down. marble falls Aug 2021 #72
glad to hear it! orleans Aug 2021 #75
wow. All mine and those I know around me are, but then I am in very liberal Eugene. LizBeth Aug 2021 #2
Horrible. So sorry. vanlassie Aug 2021 #3
I'm so sorry! herding cats Aug 2021 #4
Thanx, you know me, I sure will. marble falls Aug 2021 #6
My thoughts to you and family and friends XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Aug 2021 #8
Sometimes it truly does seem like no good deed goes unpunished. StarryNite Aug 2021 #9
No good deed goes unpunished..... Nevilledog Aug 2021 #10
This is in the category of anything that can go wrong will go wrong! Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #11
Move to NJ NY PA MD RI MASS VA MA North East basically weissmam Aug 2021 #12
I'm in the northeast, in NY. wnylib Aug 2021 #19
Try more than 350 breakthrough infections. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #26
Here in PA, cases are back to what they were in May coming down from a post-Easter spike BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #28
I'm so sorry GPV Aug 2021 #13
A string of bad luck and bad people Yonnie3 Aug 2021 #14
Marble Falls, I am so sorry. I hope you told your neighbor's idiot son he is now on his own ... Hekate Aug 2021 #15
I'm agrier at the preachers, pols, and Pox News. Warpy Aug 2021 #16
Should be fresh in our minds come next election. rickyhall Aug 2021 #17
I will have maybe the only "Blue" car in Marble Falls, and if it's not it will be the 'Bluest' ... marble falls Aug 2021 #35
Oh no... BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #18
All the very best to you & your wife MF. I was appalachiablue Aug 2021 #20
And that was your reward for helping your neighbor? Dreampuff Aug 2021 #21
Everything you said, Dreampuff. calimary Aug 2021 #56
Correction: calimary Aug 2021 #57
Thank you for checking in with us. Niagara Aug 2021 #22
OMG, Marble. I am so, so, so sorry. MLAA Aug 2021 #23
Man in the last week I have been wondering who among people I know are unvaxxed. Initech Aug 2021 #24
I think you're in Philly, but here in Marble Falls it's downright scary. The "elite" Doctor ... marble falls Aug 2021 #37
No I'm in Orange County, CA. Initech Aug 2021 #45
It sort of reminds me of when I was a young hippie and askeing someone I was selling a ... marble falls Aug 2021 #49
No I don't either! Initech Aug 2021 #50
Very sorry to hear this, marble falls LuckyCharms Aug 2021 #25
I'm so sorry. Your friends let you down. They broke trust. yardwork Aug 2021 #27
You are in prayers Duncanpup Aug 2021 #29
I know you were trying to be helpful, and your heart was in the right place. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #30
I remember seeing your post about your neighbor alittlelark Aug 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2021 #32
Bubba, we are masking fools here the MFalls house. Even my RW MiL and SiL are vaxxed and ... marble falls Aug 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2021 #47
We take care of each other. That's the only thing they can't break. marble falls Aug 2021 #52
We're all lucky to have people like you in the world, marble falls. calimary Aug 2021 #59
Too good malaise Aug 2021 #41
I can't imagine what it's like to have health problems... NNadir Aug 2021 #33
I have no words...just a virtual hug Maeve Aug 2021 #34
Start taking melatonin IbogaProject Aug 2021 #36
I take D and fish oil every day, they're my only presriptions right now. Melontonin, I used ... marble falls Aug 2021 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Aug 2021 #39
Hope you're both OK malaise Aug 2021 #40
You're telling me!!! The crazy part is as "sick" as I am I feel pretty good! marble falls Aug 2021 #44
It's about celebrating the fact that we're still alive, kicking and fighting to stay alive malaise Aug 2021 #46
You make me homesick for a place that's like my dreams of how people can be ... marble falls Aug 2021 #51
Don't be fooled about this paradise malaise Aug 2021 #53
That violence is everywhere, but I can still dream. I blame wealth disparity and how ... marble falls Aug 2021 #54
That and the availability of guns malaise Aug 2021 #55
Other people being careless... That's how I nearly died JCMach1 Aug 2021 #42
Isn't it crazy? And one moment of not paying attention, in my case. marble falls Aug 2021 #48
Exactly, nurse and her husband in my case... JCMach1 Aug 2021 #66
omg I am so sorry. BeckyDem Aug 2021 #58
About time for you to catch some good breaks Harker Aug 2021 #60
I remember the first time I heard Blue Cheers version. It woke me up: what I felt could be ... marble falls Aug 2021 #61
The "Get Off your Ass and Dance" Saunders Brothers? Harker Aug 2021 #64
I don't think so, mine are local music legends and sources of good stories in Akron ... marble falls Aug 2021 #65
I'm hoping it's a benign cyst or whatever. Ilsa Aug 2021 #62
This lump has been called a Melonoma by one Dr, a a devoping fistula by another, an ... marble falls Aug 2021 #63
Update: my Covid test is negative. marble falls Aug 2021 #67
Glad to learn this. hamsterjill Aug 2021 #68
Good! Best wishes nt XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #70
I got a negative result yesterday Tree Lady Aug 2021 #71
I knew from science I stood a good chance of being negative, but I didn't feel RW conspiracy ... marble falls Aug 2021 #73
I think they are stupid too and reading Tree Lady Aug 2021 #74

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
5. Yes, but even that test says with a positive, go get another test. I got tested at VA and I'll ...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:18 PM
Aug 2021

... I'll get the result tomorrow or Thursday.

We are back at DEFCON 6, and it will be hard to wring even the faintest drip of humanism from me for a long time.

We made a big mistake trying to "reopen" this country.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
2. wow. All mine and those I know around me are, but then I am in very liberal Eugene.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021

I would be pissed too.

herding cats

(19,566 posts)
4. I'm so sorry!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:18 PM
Aug 2021

Hopefully if it was/is Covid you're vaccine kicked it's booty fast. Which sounds like might have been the case here.

I'm sorry about the biopsy being delayed. I know the waiting to know is just awful and now yours is extended.

Keep us posted as to how it all turns out.

XanaDUer2

(10,720 posts)
7. My thoughts to you and family and friends
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:24 PM
Aug 2021

I saw your original post, and you've done a yeoman job helping this person.

Best of luck.

Response to marble falls (Original post)

StarryNite

(9,458 posts)
9. Sometimes it truly does seem like no good deed goes unpunished.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:30 PM
Aug 2021

Sending good thoughts to you and your wife. Hang in there.

Nevilledog

(51,178 posts)
10. No good deed goes unpunished.....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:33 PM
Aug 2021

Very upsetting to hear what you're going thru. Please keep us updated.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
11. This is in the category of anything that can go wrong will go wrong!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:52 PM
Aug 2021

Beyond comprehension that people who you know and/or help feel no need to let you know they haven’t been vaxxed like somehow they don’t think it’s a big deal or worse don’t care.

So sorry you are experiencing this!!

weissmam

(905 posts)
12. Move to NJ NY PA MD RI MASS VA MA North East basically
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 02:52 PM
Aug 2021

problem solved

i.e. The out break in P-Town where 45-60 people got breakthrough infections, out of 60,000 that were there (Like 70-80% vac rate)

No deaths (obviously)
Most had symptoms of a head cold
1 hospitalization and they are out

wnylib

(21,566 posts)
19. I'm in the northeast, in NY.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:22 PM
Aug 2021

Today my county just got put into the CDC "substantial" infection category. The county next to us has been there for a few weeks. The vaccination rate here is only 43% so it will get even worse.

We are not as bad as Florida, Texas, Missouri, or Arkansas. But we also are not a haven for escaping covid.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
26. Try more than 350 breakthrough infections.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

That superspreader event involved 469 cases, 3/4 of which were in fully vaccinated people.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/30/1022867219/cdc-study-provincetown-delta-vaccinated-breakthrough-mask-guidance

So no, problem not solved. People still need to get their acts together and take steps to protect themselves and others by layers of mitigation.

BumRushDaShow

(129,356 posts)
28. Here in PA, cases are back to what they were in May coming down from a post-Easter spike
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

and we are rapidly approaching 2000/day again. A month ago we were averaging just over 200 cases per day.

We have been able to stave it off a bit better than other states but Delta is coming for everyone.

Hekate

(90,773 posts)
15. Marble Falls, I am so sorry. I hope you told your neighbor's idiot son he is now on his own ...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:06 PM
Aug 2021

…. in the “dad care” department. No more. With your neighbor’s Huntington’s, his family could have & should have made sure he was first in line to get vaccinated. And they did not.

Your rage is entirely justified.

For you

Warpy

(111,327 posts)
16. I'm agrier at the preachers, pols, and Pox News.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:16 PM
Aug 2021

I doubt so many people would be quite so dumb without them.

I'd give your neighbor with Huntington's a little pass, Huntington's screws up your head as well as your body. There is no excuse for his family except being suckers for preachers, pols, and Pox.

I hope all you had was a norovirus and the new lump is just a lymph node in the process of getting rid of it. Good luck.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
35. I will have maybe the only "Blue" car in Marble Falls, and if it's not it will be the 'Bluest' ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:26 AM
Aug 2021

If I have to park it in the garage at night, so be it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,356 posts)
18. Oh no...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:21 PM
Aug 2021


And you are in hot bed Texas too.

I just ordered some N95s today for my stash and getting ready to do more hunkering down.

Sending some healing thoughts your way and hoping hoping hoping for some good news.

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
20. All the very best to you & your wife MF. I was
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:29 PM
Aug 2021

just wondering yesterday where you were, glad you checked in. High anxiety time, and your anger is justified.

Hopefully your immune system whooped ass on any Covid. Stay strong friend, good luck with the biopsy test results- anxiety hell.


Dreampuff

(778 posts)
21. And that was your reward for helping your neighbor?
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

It doesn't seem fair, does it? I wish you and your family well and you have every right to have negative thoughts about the unvaccinated. I am also losing my patience with them because this is getting terrible again and it is their fault. I also live in a high infection state and it's scary.

calimary

(81,432 posts)
56. Everything you said, Dreampuff.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

Everything you said. I’ve lost all patience and “understanding” for the various “reasons” and excuses why they don’t get vaccinated.

What do they STILL not understand about This-Is-A-KILLER-Disease ?

This is a KILLER disease. It CAN kill you. It’s already proved that - more than 600-thousand times, last I heard.

calimary

(81,432 posts)
57. Correction:
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:44 PM
Aug 2021

As of 11:42am Pacific time, yesterday (Tuesday 8/10/21), 621,116 deaths in the US.

Confirmed cases US - 36,054,583
Deaths US - 621,116
Confirmed cases worldwide - 203,463,646
Deaths worldwide - 4,306,394

Niagara

(7,646 posts)
22. Thank you for checking in with us.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:36 PM
Aug 2021

I had meant to inquire about you and your frightening situation and it slipped my mind.



Here's hoping for smooth sailing.



MLAA

(17,318 posts)
23. OMG, Marble. I am so, so, so sorry.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:58 PM
Aug 2021

So your friend led you to believe he was vaccinated but wasn’t? You’ve been so kind to him all this time.

Crossing my fingers and sending you and your wife love and healing thoughts. Keep us posted when you can!

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
37. I think you're in Philly, but here in Marble Falls it's downright scary. The "elite" Doctor ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:34 AM
Aug 2021

says his offices are large enough to be mask free, and says that he probably wouldn't get a vax, even if the FDA OKs one. He and his partners run a sort RW new age practice.

Initech

(100,099 posts)
45. No I'm in Orange County, CA.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:08 AM
Aug 2021

There's plenty of right wing nut jobs here and lots of conspiracy theorists where I live. So yeah there's plenty to second guess who among me is unvaxxed.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
49. It sort of reminds me of when I was a young hippie and askeing someone I was selling a ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

... a nickle of pot to and asking them if they were Narcs. You couldn't trust any answers then about pot, and I don't trust everyone who says they're vaxxed or getting vaxxed next week, either.

Initech

(100,099 posts)
50. No I don't either!
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

Unless I see the actual vaccine numbers in Orange County rise I'll continue to second guess who's vaccinated. And we're also home to Huntington Beach which has plenty of criminally insane people who live there, so...

LuckyCharms

(17,454 posts)
25. Very sorry to hear this, marble falls
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:24 PM
Aug 2021

Wishing you and your family the very best.

Don't worry...it's going to be OK.



Please keep us posted.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
30. I know you were trying to be helpful, and your heart was in the right place.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:03 PM
Aug 2021

But I don't think you should have exposed yourself to this unvaccinated person. I would have told him to find other transportation. Your catching it from him and possibly exposing others was not worth it.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
31. I remember seeing your post about your neighbor
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:19 PM
Aug 2021

I remember thinking OMFG-NO !!!!

I had H1N1 about 10 years ago. - in bed for a month - never been the same since. Sometimes we need to look to self preservation to protect those we love down the road.

Response to marble falls (Original post)

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
38. Bubba, we are masking fools here the MFalls house. Even my RW MiL and SiL are vaxxed and ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:48 AM
Aug 2021

... masked. We make them from triple layers of quilting fabric (tightly woven fabric - the best you can buy in cotton) with a pocket for a coffee filter. Always one in my pocket and two in the car. They are washed every day if used. We have at least ten in reserve, and we do hand them out.

They cover almost the entire botton of the face and go under chin, and cut to go up the bridge of our noses which keeps our glasses from fogging.

We've gone into a deep self quarantine since Sunday's medium high quarantine.

We're going to make it.

Response to marble falls (Reply #38)

calimary

(81,432 posts)
59. We're all lucky to have people like you in the world, marble falls.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

Hope you and your loved ones remain safe and okay, and that you get a diagnosis much more to your liking.

NNadir

(33,541 posts)
33. I can't imagine what it's like to have health problems...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:58 AM
Aug 2021

...when the hospitals are filled for no other reason than mass stupidity.

We wish you good luck with the biopsy results!

Hang in there!

IbogaProject

(2,827 posts)
36. Start taking melatonin
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:28 AM
Aug 2021

Start taking melatonin & vitamin D, you need sunlight to activate the vitamin d to a useable form. Those will both keep your immune system strong but more important not overactive.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
43. I take D and fish oil every day, they're my only presriptions right now. Melontonin, I used ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:56 AM
Aug 2021

... back when I was a type A corporate asshole, I couldn't sleep well, and probably for good reasons. I had a heart attack at 38.

I also take Zinc because I understand it helps keep virus from sticking to our lungs.

These days I sleep well. But, tell me more about how it might fit in with fighting off Covid, please!

Response to marble falls (Original post)

malaise

(269,157 posts)
46. It's about celebrating the fact that we're still alive, kicking and fighting to stay alive
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:11 AM
Aug 2021

This is you

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
51. You make me homesick for a place that's like my dreams of how people can be ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:34 AM
Aug 2021

For if one days its coffee, the next day it may be tea, but if there is nothing at all, ALMIGHTY, I-n-I will still give thanks to Thee. (Robert Athlyi Rogers)

Thanks to you, too.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
53. Don't be fooled about this paradise
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:52 AM
Aug 2021

The murder rate here is so high that we have a current top ten song called Rest in Peace.
We were laughing and crying about that yesterday.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
54. That violence is everywhere, but I can still dream. I blame wealth disparity and how ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:56 AM
Aug 2021

... effective it is at turning its victims on each other.

JCMach1

(27,569 posts)
66. Exactly, nurse and her husband in my case...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 06:35 PM
Aug 2021

Nurse had Covid very early In pandemic, so she knew better

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
58. omg I am so sorry.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:45 PM
Aug 2021

They are creating so much turmoil and death.


All best wishes for your good health, and be well.

Harker

(14,030 posts)
60. About time for you to catch some good breaks
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:57 PM
Aug 2021

and some good news.

You're a rock. A good rock.

Speaking of good rock, the Blue Cheer cover of Eddie Cochran was a treat.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
61. I remember the first time I heard Blue Cheers version. It woke me up: what I felt could be ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021

... put in a song.

The first musical 'whoa!' I had was in seventh grade. At a talent show, the Lyme (a band with the Saunders brothers in it) played "Eight Days a Week" at the Simon Perkins Jr High in Akron and it was freaking awesome. That was 1961 and I had no clue a "kid's band' could sound so good.

Harker

(14,030 posts)
64. The "Get Off your Ass and Dance" Saunders Brothers?
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:47 PM
Aug 2021

Either way, I know what gets played aloud when my sweetie gets home from work tonight, if she's not too tired to cut a rug, and my feet feel better.

I guess my first memorable 'whoa' moment was Odetta stopping to pet my hair and smile sweetly at me on her way to the stage in a Boulder, Colorado restaurant. I remember thinking she was covering The Animals when she played "House of the Rising Sun."

How little I knew for one who knew so much.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
65. I don't think so, mine are local music legends and sources of good stories in Akron ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 03:49 PM
Aug 2021

... goes to show you how an almost 60 year old memory morphs



THE LIME : AKRON | Ohio Sounds
[Search domain ohiosounds.wordpress.com] https://ohiosounds.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/the-lime-akron/
A cool mid 60's release on the legendary CHESS label from Akron's The Lime. See Buckeye Beat for an in depth story of this band. The Lime-Hey Girl

I'm a left-handed dyslexic geezer, if I don't fact check myself, one'd think I was on drugs.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
62. I'm hoping it's a benign cyst or whatever.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:07 PM
Aug 2021

You deserve some good news, especially after being so abused by your self friend/ex-friend.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
63. This lump has been called a Melonoma by one Dr, a a devoping fistula by another, an ...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:14 PM
Aug 2021

... an inactive staph infection by yet another. The Dermatologist says they're all wrong, and he doesn't know what it is.

Meanwhile, Covid has also holding me up on my cataract surgery.

Tree Lady

(11,484 posts)
71. I got a negative result yesterday
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:23 PM
Aug 2021

Was tested because of stomach upset for over a week and a fever. Neither doc nor I thought it was covid but she had to make sure.

Waiting in line at drive up for a hour made me realize how much my area is getting it, it was one of many places to test.

Still don't know what was wrong some kind of stomach virus.

I was freaked a bit thinking about it though because we leave for 3 weeks at coast tomorrow.

marble falls

(57,154 posts)
73. I knew from science I stood a good chance of being negative, but I didn't feel RW conspiracy ...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:17 PM
Aug 2021

... Q said confident about it. Jerks who didn't get vaxxed are all around us, I was nervous for two days waiting for a result, my procedure was delayed by weeks because there people I never knew were so stupid as to not get vaxxed. It's an easy 12. The last crest, I don't think I personally know one person with Covid. This time, I know six, and I know of six more. One of them is around one year old.

Stay safe!

Tree Lady

(11,484 posts)
74. I think they are stupid too and reading
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:21 PM
Aug 2021

The wrong facts. I have 2 grandkids in early 20's that won't get it because they think it will ruin their future, I just hope they have one!

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