What a disappointment. I'm watching the Hanna t.v. series (Had to jump over the first

[Baitball Blogger]

half of season 1 because I saw the movie and the details were similar to the movie). But, in one of the episodes in Season 2 they tried to slip in some really stanky right-wing propaganda. One of the NPC characters was a student who spouted information he just learned from a book. He says (and I paraphrase) It's John F. Kennedy who took us into Vietnam. If he hadn't been murdered, who knows how long we would have stayed in that war. Liberalism is the disease, not the answer.

Okay, back in those days, a new president tried to carry over policies from the previous president. It was traditional. And it was my understanding that Eisenhower was the one who committed us to go into Vietnam.

So, I'm wondering if these nuggets slipped into movies for the YA audience are intentional deceptive propaganda.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. I have not checked but good chance if you look into who produced the show

and/or the director of that episode, you'll find they're some friggin wingnut.

Netflix is FAR FAR from averse to putting up shows with RW messaging (with varying degrees of subtlety) in them. I see it ALL the time.

I'm sure you're not wrong.

[brooklynite]

2. Producer: David Farr (British)

David Farr (born 29 October 1969) is a British writer, theatrical director and Associate Director of the Royal Shakespeare Company.

From his bio, he produces spy stuff; no political bias.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. How can they get this so wrong, then?

[brooklynite]

5. Its fiction...

I've been watching the Medici on Netflix. The series works in a number of murders of historic characters who died of natural causes.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Because this is more recent history, they should have made an effort to get it right, or at least

not come up with a conclusion that could never have come out of a proper school book.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. I also mentioned the director of the episode ... figure it's one or the other :) nt

[brooklynite]

11. Sarah Adina Smith is an American film writer, director, and editor

Smith's first feature as director, The Midnight Swim, was released in 2014. The film was noted for its shifts in visual style,[6] and won six awards on the festival circuit, including the audience award from AFI Fest.

Her sophomore feature, Buster's Mal Heart,[9] premiered at the 2014 Toronto International Film Festival, and stars Rami Malek, DJ Qualls, and Kate Lyn Sheil.

Smith later co-wrote the screenplay for the film Unlovable, which screened at the SXSW festival in 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Adina_Smith

As a rule, the Director doesn't write the script.

[rockfordfile]

8. If true what the poster said, then the pos is clearly bias.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. More the reason why we need to out these nuggets, and make sure we find a way

to provide the correct information to the kids.

[cachukis]

9. It's in the books. Nuance is hard.

Reading requires understanding how words connect to create meaning. Video is a blink. Podcasts, while verbal, also are a blink. Those of us who are readers are being replaced. Most readers, will miss the conclusion or inference of your post. Complexity is for the thinkers. Thinkers have background upon which to build their thoughts. How much time do you have to explain Kennedy without being interrupted by conspiracy? Think about it, this is the tool of our conversation.
I remember taking crossroads to cram for tests and spending all night playing chess with a guy who had returned from Nam explaining his catharsis. The B or C I got on the exam was incidental. The conversation has lasted a lifetime. I conversed with the author.
When I read, I ask questions that hopefully, the author will answer. It's hard to think of questions, never mind contemplate the significance of what's being said in the staccato of our world.
Think about the pressure on journalists to accommodate the interviewee and catch them in the lie at a moment's notice without sufficient background on the bamboozle.
We, who think we have it together, rely upon reflection. How many of us could analyze well, the information around the madness we get thrown at us every day.
We, like every one else need time to digest. We have allowed ourselves to manage with little time.
We respond emotionally.
We don't understand the movie maker relying on what's in his tool box.
We need time to talk out that we, as humans, are humans.
Insanity is a cry for help. There is a lot of insanity that sanity has to fix.
Happy fixing.

[Jim__]

10. I don't know anything about the TV show, but history is seldom simple.

Here's an excerpt from the Kennedy Presidential Library:

...

American foreign policy after World War II had been based on the goal of containing Communism and the assumptions of the so-called "domino theory”—that if one country fell to Communism, the surrounding countries would fall, like dominoes. The Eisenhower administration was concerned that if Vietnam fell under Communist control, other Southeast Asian and Pacific nations, including even the Philippines, would fall one by one. In response to that threat, the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) was formed in 1955 to prevent Communist expansion. President Eisenhower sent some 700 military personnel as well military and economic aid to the government of South Vietnam. This effort was foundering when John F. Kennedy became president.

In May 1961, JFK authorized sending an additional 500 Special Forces troops and military advisors to assist the pro‑Western government of South Vietnam. By the end of 1962, there were approximately 11,000 military advisors in South Vietnam.

...

A few weeks later, President Kennedy sent Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Maxwell Taylor to South Vietnam to provide their assessment of the situation. In their public report, they noted progress on the military front but difficulties with the political situation. They commented that by the end of 1963, “the US program for training Vietnamese should have progressed to the point where 1,000 US military personnel assigned to South Viet-Nam can be withdrawn.”

On November 1, 1963, the South Vietnamese government was overthrown. President Diem, refusing an American offer of safety contingent upon his resignation, was assassinated. In the final weeks of his life, Kennedy wrestled with the need to decide the future of the United States’ commitment in Vietnam. There were approximately 16,000 military advisors in South Vietnam. Whether or not Kennedy would have increased military involvement in Vietnam or negotiated a withdrawal of military personnel still remains a hotly debated topic among historians and officials who served in the administrations of President Kennedy and President Lyndon B. Johnson.

...

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Thank you!

Very thorough explanation. And Robert McNamara explains his ill-fated part in extending the war in his book. If I recall, he blamed the peace protesters. He didn't want to appear weak.

How's that going for ya?