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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBuying a New American Chevy - Oh Really?
Before signing on the dotted line, you might want to check on that. It's not all what it might seem to be at GM, apparently. And the dealer won't tell you, unless you ask specifically about the car you're buying.
How do I know this?
Well, my wife and I decided to buy a brand new car to go with our South Korean-made 2020 KIA Soul. We were replacing our 1996 Ford Ranger pickup, built right here in Minnesota, because, well, its 26 years old and is useless in our snowy winter weather. We wanted a compact or subcompact SUV with all-wheel-drive, or my wife did, anyhow. If it were left to me, I'd buy a late 1960s MG Midget someone had restored for the same money. But...my wife would not like that, so I started doing my online due diligence.
I looked at the Subaru Forester, the Toyota RAV4, a couple of Honda Models and even a Mitsubishi. After all the flak I got here and elsewhere for buying a KIA Soul, though, I decided to see what Good Old American Cars might fit the bill. I checked out several, and the Chevy Trax LS AWD looked like the best match. Priced close to being the cheapest subcompact SUV with AWD, Chevy dealers were offering model year closeout pricing on 2021 models. I talked to a old guy about my age in a supermarket parking lot who was parking one in a handicapped space and asked him how he liked it. He liked it just fine, he said. "Good little car, easy to get into, and pretty comfortable."
That was enough for me. I checked all the Twin Cities metro area dealers, only to discover that there was a serious shortage of 2021 AWD Chevy Trax vehicles available. They aren't making any more 2021s, and they've been popular, apparently. Anyhow, since I had decided to buy American this time, when one dealer said they had a white one coming in on a truck this week, I said, "I'll take it!" I put a deposit on it to hold it, since they were apparently selling instantly when they came into stock.
So, today, I wrote them a check for the total price, signed a few papers, and drove off the lot in my brand new car, with just 8 miles on the clock, less than an hour after walking in the showroom door. It is comfy. It is powerful enough to blend into the 70 mph traffic on the nearest interstate onramp and it has all of the latest bells and whistles, most of which I have not tried yet.
So, when I got home, out of curiosity, I entered my new car's VIN number in one of those sites that gives you vehicle information from that unique identifier. Guess what? It's place of manufacture is: BUPYEONG, SOUTH KOREA. That's the Daewoo factory. Nobody mentioned that at the dealership. Odd, isn't it? So, now, I have two cars built in South Korea.
Funny! I decided to buy a Chevy, and ended up with a Chevy-branded stencil car from Daewoo. Hilarious! Do I care? I don't at all. the two KIAs I've owned have been great, and this Trax probably will be, too.
BTW, the dealer gave my wife and I two high-quality Chevy logo baseball caps as a parting gift. I checked. They were made in China.
The automotive industry is a global industry now. Unless you ask specifically, I wouldn't count on your next American-brand car being manufactured here in the USA. It's a new era. Get used to it. Even if you find one made in this country, it will have part after part made in China or Korea or Taiwan. Count on it. If you enjoy working on your cars, stock up on metric tools. You'll need them on virtually every car sold today.
However, there are hundreds of people in the USA employed by car dealerships, trucking firms, etc. It's just that fewer are employed building cars these days. The nature of work is shifting to a global model.
al_liberal
(420 posts)The first character of the VIN specifies this. You can check it from your phone at the dealership. 1,4,5 for instance are USA, 2 is Canada, 3 is Mexico, J is Japan, S is England, etc.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I didn't check. Frankly, I didn't care, really. I was checking the VIN to find out exactly which engine was in it, since there were two different engines used in the 2021 models. I didn't really care about that, either, except they have different oil requirements and I wanted to know.
It's just funny to me. Whatever car brand you buy, your new car could be manufactured anywhere, regardless of the brand name of the car. That's the point.
South Korea has been building some outstanding cars. The KIAs have been great, generally.
I just think it's amusing, really.
Caliman73
(11,739 posts)Japanese Toyotas and Nissan's are manufactured in the United States along with German Volkswagens. In fact, the top US made car right now is a Toyota.
Martin Eden
(12,871 posts)-- except the part about checking on where the car was manufactured.
Not condemning you for buying a foreign made car; it's such a big investment that other factors come very much into play. My current car is a 2016 VW Golf made in Mexico, and before that was a 2007 Honda Fit.
Since 1986 I've bought a new economy car roughly every 10 years -- all with 4 cylinders and a 5 speed manual transmission. I really like the Golf; it's fairly refined for a small hatchback and has a good amount of fun-to-drive factor. I've had no problems driving in the Chicagoland winter.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)you'll see that almost all of them are made in Japan, so clearly, I don't really care. I wanted a car with the features I was looking for at a good price. That's what I bought. where it was made was not a consideration for me, really.
That wasn't the point of my post, really. My point was that most people don't check where cars are made, especially traditional American branded cars. Most people won't ever check. That isn't the criterion most people use, in the first place.
I bought a Chevy.
Martin Eden
(12,871 posts)... did you drive your Chevy to the levee ... and was it dry?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)However, my wife is driving the Chevy to El Rodeo restaurant, so we can have some good Mexican food. She hasn't driven it yet.
dsc
(52,163 posts)and it is made in GA. I wanted to do American but to get an American sedan is actually quite difficult. Ford had pretty much nothing unless I wanted to get a town car which was out of my price range. Chrysler has the 300 which was about 10k more expensive than my car if I wanted the same features. The Malibu was sort of close but again more expensive and less features. Had Ford kept the Focus I might have bought one, but have to say the K5 is by far the best new car I have ever owned.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)KIAs are good cars, wherever they are built. We've had 2 Souls. Wonderful little cars, but they don't offer an AWD Soul.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Have foreign made parts.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)All of them. Every last one of them.
snowybirdie
(5,230 posts)Our Kia Sorrento was made in Georgia, near Atlanta.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Brand names tell you nothing any longer.
But, every US car dealer employs American workers. They outnumber factory workers by a huge number.
The auto industry is larger than just manufacturing. Much larger.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)The location where it was built (Mexico) is right on the window sticker. And yes, cars are an international product and have been for awhile. I had a new '02 Mercury Mountaineer that had a french transmission. This is partly why we are having supply problems in the auto industry. Something can happen on the other side of the world that we have no conrol over that will affect the supply of a vital part. And technology evolves so quickly and companies change vendors so often they no longer warehouse huge amounts of even the most vital parts.
I had an uncle who in the late 60s told me the reason most european cars had disc brakes and we were still using drums was the big three automakers had stockpiled millions of brake drums and they intended to use every last one of them. They don't want to make that kind of mistake again.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)The car was built in Korea. The ball caps came from China, but the little bit of profit from the sale helps pay cost of my Medicare Advantage plan and the $500 a month I still get from GM as a surviving spouse.
So I thank you.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)But couldn't find the right one when I was looking. I want to buy a union made car. Still uncomfortable with a Japanese or german one. But it looks like Ford and GM are pretty much out of the sedan business so I don't know what I'll do for my next one. Hopefully I'll have some years before I have to decide. They will probably be all electric. A new world.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Engine and transmission were built in USA.
US and Canadian parts content are 55%, with 20% coming from Japan.
This is from the window sticker.
needledriver
(836 posts)My cars are union made in the USA.
https://uaw.org/solidarity_magazine/buy-union-2021-uaw-built-vehicles-list/
brooklynite
(94,604 posts)Top of the line VWs come from Germany.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)phylny
(8,381 posts)I currently have a 2012 GMC Terrain that was assembled in Canada. I would love to buy another GMC but they dont make a hybrid SUV. Im leaning toward a Honda CR-V. My last Honda CR-V, a 2005, had over 380,000 miles and was driven by me, one of our daughters, and then a niece.
obamanut2012
(26,081 posts)Love my first one, and now make enough money to get a higher trim.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Our second is a 2015 Optima, $0 down 60 months no interest, and when our 2009 had 174,000 miles we gave it away and bought a 2020 Optima, $0 down 77 months no interest.