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Yes, the evacuation was handled very badly, but I sure am glad Biden is there to deal with (Original Post) JohnSJ Aug 2021 OP
Not really, I'd prefer that Trump gets the blame instead ansible Aug 2021 #1
I'd rather it be on trump, honestly. Hope Biden comes up with way to make this better for everyone. Hoyt Aug 2021 #2
There is plenty of blame to go around. Sneederbunk Aug 2021 #3
Culture clash, mostly. Westerners just can't understand the mindset ansible Aug 2021 #5
True MoMof6 Aug 2021 #4
You do not know it was handled badly because you have no idea of the results if handled LizBeth Aug 2021 #6
Agreed. BlueCheeseAgain Aug 2021 #8
Honestly, I'm not sure it could have gone much better. BlueCheeseAgain Aug 2021 #7
I don't think there was any chance of an orderly exit mvd Aug 2021 #9
 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
1. Not really, I'd prefer that Trump gets the blame instead
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:48 AM
Aug 2021

This is happening under Biden's term and he'll get the blame.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. I'd rather it be on trump, honestly. Hope Biden comes up with way to make this better for everyone.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

Sneederbunk

(14,297 posts)
3. There is plenty of blame to go around.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

Including the intelligence agencies. Why, when it comes to the Mid-East, do they continue to drop the ball?

 

MoMof6

(16 posts)
4. True
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:57 AM
Aug 2021

This looks very, very bad to the entire world.

I am amazed that our intelligence/foreign policy "experts" were so completely wrong regarding this entire scenario. The US appears like weak, incompetent clowns.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. You do not know it was handled badly because you have no idea of the results if handled
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:00 PM
Aug 2021

any other way. No one had an idea the Afgh military would fold so quickly and easily or would end with this results as we couldn't know the results if handled any other way. It might just as well be inevitable there would be this chaos regardless of approach.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
7. Honestly, I'm not sure it could have gone much better.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:08 PM
Aug 2021

The last days of a war are always pretty messy.

Let's suppose that we had somehow managed to quietly withdraw all Americans and Afghans who helped us, and then after that, the Taliban swept into Kabul. Wouldn't we be seeing similar scenes of desperation as people tried to leave? Not to mention what it would have looked like when people noticed us leaving.

mvd

(65,179 posts)
9. I don't think there was any chance of an orderly exit
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:12 PM
Aug 2021

The Taliban was propped up by TFG and we’ve been there 20+ years with no change in the ability of the Afghanistan government to be strong. We were wasting money. We are not the first super power to bow out there. There needs to be an international effort and aid.

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