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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJeffrey Toobin is a special kind of moron
I mean what possible reason or purpose could he use an excuse for writing such a piece of drivel? Unless he has completely gone over to the alternative reality world of right wing quackery after his zoom embarrassment. CNN shouldn't have even thought about publishing such nonsense.
Attorney General Merrick Garland, don't prosecute Donald Trump
By Jeffrey Toobin, CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/opinions/donald-trump-attorney-general-garland-toobin/index.html
(CNN)Did Donald Trump commit federal crimes in his final, desperate attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election?
The latest revelations about Trump's final days in office demonstrate that his behavior was, at a minimum, outrageous. He pressured his acting attorney general, Jeffrey Rosen, to open an investigation of purported fraud in the vote count in Georgia, even though there was no evidence of such wrongdoing. In one call, Trump apparently directed Rosen to "just say the election was corrupt, [and] leave the rest to me
Trump also allegedly engineered the departure of the United States attorney in Georgia when he refused to pursue Trump's false claims. In addition, Trump's statements at a rally in Washington, DC, on January 6 are said to have led his supporters to storm the Capitol later that day. For some distinguished lawyers, this evidence provides a roadmap for Merrick Garland, the attorney general, to direct a criminal investigation of the former president.
To which I'd respond: not so fast. It's one thing to describe the former president's behavior as disgraceful and wrong -- and I'd share that view -- but quite another to argue that Trump should be criminally prosecuted. Based on the available evidence, there is no basis to prosecute Trump and little reason even to open a criminal investigation.
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ProfessorGAC
(65,199 posts)Rec'd.
zuul
(14,628 posts)I don't understand why CNN brought him back. If you're enough of a wanker that you thought it was okay to yank out your wanker on a video conference call and start whacking away, well, WANK you.
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)belpejic
(720 posts)Seriously, his behavior seems like that of a classic sex addict. AFAIK, normal men don't sit around masturbating during business Zoom calls, though maybe I'm naive.
Did he investigate whether he needed help? Did he try to get some? Forgiveness is possible, but you've got to acknowledge and address the problem first.
Edit: fixed spelling.
zuul
(14,628 posts)Toobin said in Thursday's segment that his conduct was "deeply moronic and indefensible."
I have spent the seven subsequent months miserable months in my life trying to be a better person, Toobin told CNN anchor Alisyn Camerota. In therapy, trying to do some public service, working in a food bank, working on a new book. I am trying to become the kind of person that people can trust again.
The apology, experts say, fails to adequately address his behavior's impact. Some social media users also wondered what working at a food bank has to do with exposing yourself at work or how working on a book serves anyone but himself.
Bev54
(10,072 posts)said, maybe it makes you lose all perspective when you do in front of a crowd.
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)dajoki
(10,678 posts)belpejic
(720 posts)And a box of tissues.
Seriously, after he got caught toobin' it live he will never have any credibility ever again. I don't think it's even worth considering him part of the discourse.
mzmolly
(51,005 posts)have a job?
belpejic
(720 posts)mzmolly
(51,005 posts)would never be offered work again.
3catwoman3
(24,051 posts)...self-control not to engage in the most private of activities while on a Zoom call for work.
mzmolly
(51,005 posts)correct.
One would think such shenanigans could wait until after the frigging work day is over.
3catwoman3
(24,051 posts)again should I have lacked the necessary self-control.
mzmolly
(51,005 posts)My goodness - the smarmy entitlement is off the charts.
zuul
(14,628 posts)but Jeffrey gets to tug his Toobin on a zoom call with several colleagues and he still gets a gig at CNN.
And I don't buy the 'it was an accident' BS. He's a perv.
crickets
(25,983 posts)Why can't CNN find someone else with better common sense? Ugh.
spanone
(135,882 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)malaise
(269,182 posts)He's should even have been rehired
Vinca
(50,309 posts)Toobin on his Zoom call. Aarrrrggghhhhh.
malaise
(269,182 posts)He should just go away
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)@tribelaw
.@JeffreyToobin
says AG Garland shouldnt even investigate Trumps role in the seditious insurrection because the leading precedent comes from a case from 1863! Hmmm. Could that maybe be because. . . wait for it: This is the first insurrection weve had since the Civil War?
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Could not disagree more. This assumes intent cannot be proven if someone lies about his own. No other criminals get that kind of pass. Trump shouldnt, either. Theres more than enough predication to investigate and a substantial federal interest in protecting election
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Toobin makes the remarkably wrong claim that based on the available evidence, there is no basis to prosecute Trump & little reason to investigate. Of course, he doesnt know all of the evidence DOJ possesses & little reason is enough to investigate.
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Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Garland absolutely should still investigate, however!
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)or Vance? Tribe was his professor in law school, btw.
Umm, no.
See my post upstream.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)I might've added my last line there after you started responding though, that was an clarifying edit I made within a minute or two.
hlthe2b
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LetMyPeopleVote
(145,595 posts)Shermann
(7,440 posts)Here's a thought experiment. Imagine your jackass neighbor makes similar statements as Trump. He tells another jackass neighbor he should march on Congress. He claims the election was stolen. He says Republicans should fight like hell and stop the steal. So...then that other neighbor goes rogue and actually does storm the Capitol.
Is the first neighbor guilty of a federal crime? His statements are pretty vague and tame in that context, I highly doubt it meets that bar.
So why a different standard for Trump? He isn't above the law, but he isn't below it either. The trouble is that the Executive Office of the President is a tremendous amplifier for bad behaviors. Charging bogus federal crimes isn't the answer, however. The first answer is having elections where candidates are thoroughly vetted and jackasses like these don't have any chance of being elected. The second is impeachment. Those are the two lines of defense. If both break down, we as a nation are left to suffer our fate.
dajoki
(10,678 posts)but they won't accept the results and now they are in the process of making themselves the only ones who get to decide outcomes of future elections. This started with the orange jackass and he is still getting his whacko morons all riled up and we all know what they are capable of. Bring the evidence before a grand jury and let them indict his sorry ass.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)It's too unseemly, too divisive, and FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP's mob-speak always leaves some doubt - he doesn't explicitly direct.
Voltaire2
(13,187 posts)Toobin seems to have raised the bar.