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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 03:54 PM Aug 2021

If N.Texas runs out of ICU hospital beds, doctors can consider a patient's vaccination status

North Texas doctors have quietly developed a plan that seeks to prepare for the possibility that due to the COVID-19 surge the region will run out of intensive-care beds.

If that happens, for the first time, doctors officially will be allowed to take vaccination status of sick patients into account along with other triage factors to see who gets a bed.

A copy of an internal memo written by Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the North Texas Mass Critical Care Guideline Task Force, was sent to members of the task force -- and leaked to The Watchdog. It summarizes the latest work by the task force, a volunteer group that periodically updates medical guidelines for hospitals in our region. There are about 50 members from various hospitals in the group. Although their recommendations are not enforceable, the guidelines are generally followed.

One important note: A non-vaccinated person will not necessarily be denied care when competing with a vaccinated patient for an ICU bed, doctors say. Other medical factors come into play, such as underlying conditions and the likelihood that a patient will get better and leave the hospital.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2021/08/19/if-north-texas-runs-out-of-icu-hospital-beds-doctors-can-consider-a-patients-vaccination-status/

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If N.Texas runs out of ICU hospital beds, doctors can consider a patient's vaccination status (Original Post) JoanofArgh Aug 2021 OP
So, basically, triage. Ocelot II Aug 2021 #1
Gmta GPV Aug 2021 #3
Exactly what I was going to write. Triage 101 (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #5
Good. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #2
There is gonna be a lot of whining and victimhood claimed. Plus they have so many guns. mucifer Aug 2021 #4
With all those guns, they could 2nd amendment themselves and save us the effort and resources. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #10
As it should be. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #6
The memo dalton99a Aug 2021 #7
The likelihood of survival UpInArms Aug 2021 #8
At least it's a start. roamer65 Aug 2021 #9
They don't understand the difference between a vaccine and a "cure." Grokenstein Aug 2021 #11
Save me keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #12

mucifer

(23,562 posts)
4. There is gonna be a lot of whining and victimhood claimed. Plus they have so many guns.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 03:58 PM
Aug 2021

Why can't they just get the damn vaccine??

OAITW r.2.0

(24,581 posts)
6. As it should be.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 04:05 PM
Aug 2021

A year ago, there was no vaccine. Now, there really is no excuse.

If these antivaxxers/anti-maskers truly distrust the science, they ought not trust the hospitals. My advise is to buy Jim Baker's prayer blankets and pour yourself a bleach cocktail.... just to pawn the libs.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
7. The memo
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 04:05 PM
Aug 2021
The online meeting involving several dozen doctors representing many area hospitals took place Monday. Afterward, in his email, co-chair Fine summarized decisions made by the task force. He boiled it down to three bullet points. Here they are:

1. “COVID-19 vaccination decreases severe infection and death. Vaccine status therefore may be considered when making triage decisions as part of the physician’s assessment of each individual’s likelihood of survival.”

2. “When vaccination status is considered, accommodations may be needed when the reason for non-vaccination is beyond the patient’s control such as but not limited to caretaker refusal to have a disabled dependent vaccinated, recent COVID-19 infection, or medical contraindication.”

3. “Many are understandably angry and frustrated with the unvaccinated, but triage must remain grounded upon likelihood of survival. Health care professionals should continue to honor duties of care and compassion.”

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
8. The likelihood of survival
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

Well, non vaccinated people have a much greater chance of death …

And the bed should go to those who will truly benefit from medical help …

Unvaccinated should just go to their church and pray to their invisible sky friend

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
11. They don't understand the difference between a vaccine and a "cure."
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:06 PM
Aug 2021

They just "know" every problem can be solved with guns.

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