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no_hypocrisy

(46,129 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:04 AM Aug 2021

Why the focus of Afghanistan on Kamala Harris?

She's the VP, not the POTUS. She isn't CIC. She has briefings.

Mike Pence wouldn't be under such scrutiny and criticism if 2020 had gone the other way.

I know, I know. Criticize everything and everyone and see if anything "sticks".

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Why the focus of Afghanistan on Kamala Harris? (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 OP
I'll guess - non white people on the screen underpants Aug 2021 #1
Because it's quite possible she's the Dem candidate in '24 DemInBuckhead Aug 2021 #2
It's this Sympthsical Aug 2021 #4
Biden will run again. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #11
The ones pushing these stories don't think so FBaggins Aug 2021 #13
We better hope he does...as incumbents have an edge clearly...also the GOP are doing their level Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #23
No one took Pence seriously as a future Presidential candidate DFW Aug 2021 #21
She's not POTUS... but she's also not some staff flunky FBaggins Aug 2021 #3
Not seeing it. pwb Aug 2021 #5
I'm not seeing it either, gab13by13 Aug 2021 #6
I have not seen it on cable nt Celerity Aug 2021 #9
I have turned it off too. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #24
She Is a Black Woman erpowers Aug 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2021 #8
The RW see her as the heir apparent. xmas74 Aug 2021 #10
Your theory holds water. no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #12
I'd heard her name even mentioned ZERO times... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2021 #16
I don't watch any cable news at all.... But AkFemDem Aug 2021 #18
Yes, and they did the same to Hilary padah513 Aug 2021 #14
Because she's a woman and she's black. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #15
+1 nt PunkinPi Aug 2021 #17
Like Hillary Clinton before her, VP Harris has been targeted for destruction by the GOP... Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #19
She is the heir apparent plus the media loooooves when AkFemDem Aug 2021 #20
Same reason that they went after Hillary for Benghazi themaguffin Aug 2021 #22

underpants

(182,829 posts)
1. I'll guess - non white people on the screen
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:07 AM
Aug 2021

So she must in some way be like them. Just a guess.

Side note - the Little League World Series is really big with older white people. They can watch sports with almost no non white people.

DemInBuckhead

(111 posts)
2. Because it's quite possible she's the Dem candidate in '24
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:14 AM
Aug 2021

The right wing has started the effort to tear her down. Similar to the two decades long effort against Hillary. Doesn't matter if anything actually factual.

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
4. It's this
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:21 AM
Aug 2021

The thinking is that Biden can't/won't run in 2024, so Harris is the heir apparent. The Right thinks she was selected as VP specifically to be groomed for the presidency.

Kneecap her early and often, and watch the chaos as the party doubts her prospects. That's why they're forever connecting her to what's happening at the border.

That's the strategy, at least.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
23. We better hope he does...as incumbents have an edge clearly...also the GOP are doing their level
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:24 PM
Aug 2021

best to destroy VP Harris as they did Hillary Clinton.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
21. No one took Pence seriously as a future Presidential candidate
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:09 AM
Aug 2021

Therefore, there was was meat for the press or the opposition in tearing him down.

Harris is another situation entirely.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
3. She's not POTUS... but she's also not some staff flunky
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:20 AM
Aug 2021

Particularly in this administration, but really always, it’s tough on the VP when things go poorly.

Were you an active part of the decision-making and thus partially responsible for the failure? Were you a dissenting voice and thus lacking in influence or trust of those who do make decisions? Or were you not really part of the discussion at all and thus an inconsequential figurehead with no real role in important matters?

The fourth possibility is that you’ll be used as a scapegoat. I can’t think of a fifth beyond “never do things that the public perceives as a mistake” - but that’s a fantasy.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
7. She Is a Black Woman
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:33 AM
Aug 2021

Whose focus are you talking about? If it is Conservative media than the focus is due to her being a black woman. I saw someone on twitter stating that Joe Biden did not have the same affect on Conservatives as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. I believe the person was as CPAC. The person mentioned that even though neither President Obama nor Hillary Clinton are in office merchandize critical of them are big sellers while items critical of Joe Biden, who is the current President, barely move. People like President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Vice President Kamala Harris can be used to rile up certain people. It seems to be harder to get those same people riled up about Joe Biden.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
10. The RW see her as the heir apparent.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:44 AM
Aug 2021

Remember all the talk about how Biden wouldn't actually serve and Harris would really be president? That's what it's all about. Attack,attack,attack so when 2028 comes around the public will think she did everything wrong.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
16. I'd heard her name even mentioned ZERO times...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:40 AM
Aug 2021

... in regard to Afghanistan, but I don't watch Fox News.

Their typical viewers are a lost cause anyway.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
18. I don't watch any cable news at all.... But
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:00 AM
Aug 2021

I don’t have cable tv or watch television news.

I have been following the Afghanistan crisis though, namely by following the Kabul Airport search terms on Twitter and there was an noticeable uptick in the last 24 hours in VP Harris related tweets. Many cite the same (right wing) news links that seemingly castigate her for going off to Vietnam and Singapore but then what happens is eventually people just start tweeting without the links, and it becomes a “thing” people are talking about. Regular media has been reporting on her departure as well (even trustworthy sources like NPR https://www.npr.org/2021/08/20/1025315410/vice-president-harris-heads-to-vietnam-as-the-shadow-of-afghanistan-looms ) This is likely what the original posters has seen.

padah513

(2,503 posts)
14. Yes, and they did the same to Hilary
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:56 AM
Aug 2021

The more they can make stick to her now, the more they can use it against her later.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
19. Like Hillary Clinton before her, VP Harris has been targeted for destruction by the GOP...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:03 AM
Aug 2021

I honestly don't know how you stop them.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
20. She is the heir apparent plus the media loooooves when
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:04 AM
Aug 2021

A POTUS and VP disagree on policy and I think they’re judging and hoping to find a chasm here (I’ve seen zero evidence she disagrees at all with President Biden, but she’s also been fairly quiet about this.) Media loves to stir up drama even when there is none.

Then there are the plain ole haters… she’s a democrat, she’s black, she’s a woman, they want to see her say/do anything that can be twisted and used as right wing propaganda.

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