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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:40 PM Aug 2021

The single most important issue today is voting rights

If Republicans succeed in the voter suppression tsunami with which they are flooding many states, American democracy is over.

No other issue matters more. It doesn't matter what great pieces of legislation the Dems pass in the next year or two. If Republicans steal the 2022 and 2024 elections, they will nullify all Dem legislation with a stroke of the pen and replace it with their fascist agenda. (And make no mistake about it. Without a federal voting-rights act, Republicans can and will suppress their way into total power.)

Voter suppression could be stopped in an instant if the filibuster were dead. But Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are blocking that which means they're fucking America beyond repair.

So here we are, watching our democracy on the verge of disappearing. And it doesn't seem there's a damn thing we can do about it. The president and the courts are helpless to stop it. The Republicans are licking their chops over the autocracy they are about to usher in.

Does anyone here see a way out of this dead end? Anyone? Someone?

Ironic, isn't it, that the Party that hypocritically calls itself the Party of Patriotism, God, and family values, are the ones bringing about the destruction of our freedoms. And it also seems incredible fitting that they don't see that their own futures will be in the hands of a very few people who are pulling the strings. And this will, in effect, make the personal freedoms of most Republicans as dead as those of us Democrats.

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The single most important issue today is voting rights (Original Post) Cyrano Aug 2021 OP
Covid most important reality1 Aug 2021 #1
California is not the whole country. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #11
Sent in my California Recall ballot 3 days ago. PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #15
I don't think a voting rights bill is possible. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #2
We can't GOTV past access laws, the union is lost if the GQP get back into office uponit7771 Aug 2021 #5
I just don't see anyway we get rid of the filibuster. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #21
Don't need to get rid of it just alter it for an exemption for voting. Moscow Mitch will in a split uponit7771 Aug 2021 #23
Whatever threats and bribes the Reptilians are using on Manchin and Sinnerma, lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #12
There's little that can be done about it ... the dinos wont reform the filibuster Fullduplexxx Aug 2021 #3
We can't "plan" past access and nullification laws that's not how brute force voting works uponit7771 Aug 2021 #6
Well like I said there's not much you can do Fullduplexxx Aug 2021 #7
Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link) uponit7771 Aug 2021 #4
That's horrifying. Biden and the DNC need to wage an all-out information campaign. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #13
Right ?!?! Minimum 15% of the whole Republican party is okay with a dictatorship as long as it's the uponit7771 Aug 2021 #17
Along with Covid. ananda Aug 2021 #8
It's not just suppression Cyrano Aug 2021 #16
+1, we can't GOTV voter access and nullification laws uponit7771 Aug 2021 #18
Yes, both voter suppression AND nullification. ananda Aug 2021 #22
Apparently, some think preserving the Filibuster is more important. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #9
Nope. Climate change JackSabbath Aug 2021 #10
Republicans can give a shit about climate change if we don't have voting rights there is no climate uponit7771 Aug 2021 #19
exactly cynical_idealist Aug 2021 #20
Correct. TomSlick Aug 2021 #25
k&r for visibility alwaysinasnit Aug 2021 #14
For some reason, a lot of Democrats don't seem to understand that ecstatic Aug 2021 #24

reality1

(123 posts)
1. Covid most important
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:45 PM
Aug 2021

California sends a ballot to every registered voter with a stamped return envelope. It doesn't get more convenient than that.
24% of Californians are registered Republican yet it looks like Newsom might lose the recall.

It would be a catastrophe and that's ALLl on "Democratic" voters.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. California is not the whole country.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:33 PM
Aug 2021

If the Reptilian takeover succeeds, even California will suffer gravely.

Most states do not send a ballot to every voter automatically; Reptilian states and Louie DeJerk are doing everything they can to block easy voting access.

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
15. Sent in my California Recall ballot 3 days ago.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:52 PM
Aug 2021

Easy, No on Recall.

What was weird was got the voter info stuff yesterday when ballot long gone.

Of course in my case no difference but find the vary structure of the Recall election troubling.

First one votes, Y or N on Recall.

So Newsom could be recalled if the vote is 49.99 (for Newsom) to 50.01

Then if one chose, they can pick one of 40 some odd candidates, most fringe GOP or Independents.

If Newsom is recalled by the scantest of margins, this sets up the scenario where a candidate with 5% to 10% of the vote could be Governor.

There are several Dem candidates of low profile available but the message I've heard is to vote against the Recall and no favored candidate as a contingency.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
2. I don't think a voting rights bill is possible.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:48 PM
Aug 2021

Manchin and Sinema seem determined to keep the filibuster. The only thing we can do is pass these huge infrastructure bills and hope they’re popular enough to overcome suppression.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
21. I just don't see anyway we get rid of the filibuster.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:40 PM
Aug 2021

Manchin and Sinema are very stubborn on this issue. I’m just hoping that if the GOP overturns a legitimate Democratic win that the courts would not allow it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
23. Don't need to get rid of it just alter it for an exemption for voting. Moscow Mitch will in a split
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:28 PM
Aug 2021

... second if he gets back control of congress

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Whatever threats and bribes the Reptilians are using on Manchin and Sinnerma,
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:34 PM
Aug 2021

We need to come up with bigger ones.

Fullduplexxx

(7,865 posts)
3. There's little that can be done about it ... the dinos wont reform the filibuster
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:02 PM
Aug 2021

Make sure dems know the laws in their state and plan accordingly or it may be their last

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
4. Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:14 PM
Aug 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/21/monmouth-poll-americans-back-both-early-voting-voter-id-requirements/7774904002/

At 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression after several cycles.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. That's horrifying. Biden and the DNC need to wage an all-out information campaign.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:36 PM
Aug 2021

36% of our side are just casual about the end of democracy?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
17. Right ?!?! Minimum 15% of the whole Republican party is okay with a dictatorship as long as it's the
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:09 PM
Aug 2021

.... The other 65% don't give a damn either way as long as they're in control.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
16. It's not just suppression
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:04 PM
Aug 2021

Some red states are passing laws where Republican legislatures select the winner regardless of the popular vote. Now how do you suppose that will turn out.

If nothing else, keep this in mind. Republicans can't win most elections without cheating.

JackSabbath

(153 posts)
10. Nope. Climate change
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:32 PM
Aug 2021

If we can't find a way to deal with climate change, we can kiss social justice goodbye. For hundreds of years.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
19. Republicans can give a shit about climate change if we don't have voting rights there is no climate
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:11 PM
Aug 2021

Voting rights is the number one issue right now

If the Republicans gain back Congress they will not peacefully give up power andthere will be no advancements towards mitigating climate change

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
24. For some reason, a lot of Democrats don't seem to understand that
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:54 PM
Aug 2021

I had to stop watching Nicolle Wallace's show because it just makes me so angry to continuously be reminded of how republicans would have reacted if the situation were reversed.

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