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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:26 PM Aug 2021

So Engel's complaining we're negotiating for safe passage to the airport

...instead of the alternative of bloody, street to street combat escorting some 10-20k through the Taliban to the airport, be damned the peaceful withdrawal happening now.

Richard Engel @RichardEngel 5h
Biden says US in constant contact with Taliban to get safe passage to airport. So, US asking former enemy, the Taliban, to please allow us to get our people out while they take the country.




What Richard Engel is promoting would require another 'surge' of some 10 to 20k troops into Taliban held territory. Those troops would either operate at war or in negotiation with those hostile forces. The man is extremely reckless in his reporting, offering up our soldiers like fodder.
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RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
2. Engel is mourning his loss of relevance, and the exposure of his non-insight into his
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:32 PM
Aug 2021

supposed area of expertise.

Tetrachloride

(7,847 posts)
3. Negotiations is a good thing.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:33 PM
Aug 2021

If they go not bad, there is hope that negotiations will work.

By comparison, dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was unilateral. Even tho negotiations were ongoing with Imperial Japan.

Almost every day this week, my
Arab neighbors ask me to evaluate Americans presidents. They know the value of sitting diwn together. And so do I.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
4. Hmm, is "in constant contact with" the same thing as "asking" the Taliban?
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:36 PM
Aug 2021

Or is it more like we’re telling them, “if any of our citizens are killed or injured trying to get out, then all bets are off.”

If only there was a reporter in the area who could give us actual information instead of guesswork.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
10. That's a problem, reporters on the ground aren't going to get the background ...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:07 PM
Aug 2021

... so far the agreement, whatever it was, seems to be working, if slowly and with some hitches.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
9. He's had nothing but negative reports...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:06 PM
Aug 2021

Since this started. I guess he sees that his war gig is fizzling out. He needs to come home, he's not reporting at this point, he's just ranting and venting over who knows what.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
11. Welcome to DU!
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:08 PM
Aug 2021

Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Drama Queen. All his voice overs are close to yelling like a carnival barker anymore, I used to like him.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
12. Now contrast that with this tweet of his:
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:22 PM
Aug 2021



I guess Engel is now officially on my shit list -- being a hypocrite, in favor of Trump no less, is NOT a good look.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
17. yeah his cred is shot. The fact trump made that deal.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:48 PM
Aug 2021

Anyway this was known some time ago.

I seen in a video on Maddow's show a Taliban person with a phone texting somebody. So if the Taliban have these "high-tech" communications to get info around. Then it would seem to me that some of the people that would've had same tech, should've known that we're leaving a year ago? We aren't talking stone age communications.

I think some of these didn't want to leave to begin. I think that some by trying to cause havoc thought we would stay. Maybe they support the corruption. We will know down the road more about the true intentions.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
14. I am so disappointed in Engel. I had been an admirer before this.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:28 PM
Aug 2021

how else do we get our people through an occupied zone without negotiating with the occupiers?

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