A co-worker of mine, in his 30's and fully vaxxed just got over a breakthrough case after a week

[Hugh_Lebowski]

off of work and feeling like shit, I just found out.

I knew he was out sick and guessed it might be the Rona, but just got confirmation. Don't have any more details yet but I know he pulled through well enough to be back at work (edit: back working from home I should've said) after 1 week off, and that he was feeling real bad but didn't have to go to the hospital. Believe he got his shots around may/june like I did.

Guy is hella smart, healthy lifestyle, and a Trump-hating liberal like all of us. Still got it.

Just thought I'd share.

[MiniMe]

1. Glad he is OK. He probably didn't get it as bad because he is fully vaxed

[Texaswitchy]

2. I think we all will get exposed to the virus.

We will be getting booster shots.

The horse is out of the barn

[Johonny]

17. I see no way we won't all get it.

It's just about keeping the hospitals not jammed at this point.

[Texaswitchy]

22. Yes.

If everyone would have gotten their shots it would have been different.

But no.

It will be like the flu.

Only worse.

[LisaL]

3. He is supposed to stay isolated for 10 days after his symptoms first appeared.

So he shouldn't be going back to work after one week.

"I think or know I had COVID-19, and I had symptoms
You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html

[Hugh_Lebowski]

5. Our entire office has been work from home since April 2020, and remains so

But thanks for the heads-up

[LisaL]

6. I guess 10 days don't count when one works from home.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. I was unclear, just edited my OP :) nt

[brush]

4. Hella smart enough to get the vaccine.

[lapfog_1]

8. all it takes is one mistake

I got it last October, fortunately a mild case, and I was super super careful, staying alone indoors away from people... but I made one error, I went to lunch with my favorite niece, we sat outside in a tent... and next to us was an unmasked family with little kids running all over the place. Three days later I'm sick and my blood oxygen has gone to shit and my doctor is saying "you probably have Covid, if things don't improve tomorrow I want you in a hospital".

3 weeks I couldn't stay awake all day, I could barely finish a sentence in a video conference call... and for 2 more months I had fatigue and a weird runny nose. By January most symptoms cleared up and I got the vaccine in early April.

Covid-19 can happen to anyone. And it is very dangerous... even the mild version like I had kicked the crap out of me.

[appalachiablue]

10. Glad you made it, scary.

K/R

[Evolve Dammit]

23. Scary stuff. My cousin and wife went out last November, both got it. He made it through. She didn't.

"we let our guard down and went out". Glad you made it through. I can't understand the cavalier behavior of millions who think they're magically immune. Don't get it.

[Tomconroy]

9. There was an article in the Connecticut paper about how the elderly

In nursing homes are coming down with covid again.2 or 3 hundred cases in this state, I think. All of those people must be vaxxed but of course the staff isn't. Breakthrough cases are getting more common.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. The national average vaccination rate of residents is 81%.

That would be high in the general population but in congregate living of elderly disabled, it's nowhere near good enough.

[Tomconroy]

14. In CT they made a big push to get everyone in the nursing homes vaxxed

Early on. It was about the first thing that was done. I think CTs vax rate among 18 and over may be pushing 80 percent.

[Maru Kitteh]

11. Virus don't care.

Doesn't care about your voter registration, doesn't care about your elderberry juice, H1-inhibitors, your vitamin D or your bi-weekly run.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. Seems not ... but it does care about your mask, your vax, and your avoiding crowds

To the extent that a virus 'cares' about anything

[cally]

15. My daughter is on day 10 bedridden by virus

Lost taste and smell. Has not been able to work. Roommate had mild case and is taking care of her.

She has slight improvement so I’m hopeful.

She is in early 30s and in good health prior to this

[boston bean]

16. Was she vaxed?

[Evolve Dammit]

24. Hope she will be OK. Scary.

[obamanut2012]

31. Is she vaccinated?

[cally]

33. yes!

[Ms. Toad]

18. We formally start back in person tomorrow -

And I already know of one breakthrough case, and another of unknown vaccination status (but probably also vaccinated).

Those are just the cases I know of, because I had (or was scheduled to have) direct contact with
them.

It's why I've been pushing masks all along. Where we are was entirely predictable at the time the CDC gave people permission to participate in the spread.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

19. That's a bummer you have to go back to the 'office' tomorrow!

Dang.

Yeah, the 'no masks needed if you're vaccinated' was a serious cock-up on the part of the CDC a few months back. It's the only thing I'd really harp on them for in this whole thing (that I know of).

I'm lucky in that the owner of my company is a Democrat, is very smart, and very rich, over 70, and very much wants to live. If we were all there, he'd be there too in his office. IOW he's cool enough that he'd not make us all come in if he wasn't going to. Which is awesome.

Also in my favor is the 2nd in Command, and generally the master of all things we do at our shop, has a compromised immune system due to taking Humira or something similar. He is also not about to put himself at risk.

I don't see us going back anytime soon.

Good luck tomorrow and moving forward

[Ms. Toad]

21. I've been back and teaching in person for more than a year.

Most people have been working from home half time or more (and most of the faculty - entirely). We had remote synchronous, and hybrid classes last year - each semester started with between 30% & 50% in person presence in hybrid classes - and ended the semester at around 15% in person. There was a big push to have at least one in person classes for all 1st year students. So my little half credit class allowed most faculty to teach from home.

Virtually no summer students.

Tomorrow is the formal welcome 400+ students back for full in-person education. With no social distancing. Fortunately masks are required. Unfortunately, some of the worst offenders (both as to wearing and enforcing) are those who have been teaching from the comfort of their home for more than a year.

I'm always the guinea pig (incoming students have to play with me 2 weeks ahead of the first day of classes). I was the hybrid teaching guinea pig last year.

This coming year, no staff member is permitted more than 8/40 hours from home. Students are required to attend in person (unless they have a disability accommodation). Faculty is only required to teach in person (based on how the class was initially offered), but free to remain home the remaining 34-37 hours of the work week. Seems fair to me.

[Evolve Dammit]

25. Sorry to hear. Not the time to go back. The resuming normal push was premature and we're paying. nt

[Ms. Toad]

27. Yup.

I do think it is important to be teaching in person - they (at all levels) have lost so much over the past year and a half.

AND - if everyone understood and properly respected COVID (getting vaccinated, diligently wearing masks) I would have far fewer concerns. I do think we need to get back to living with the virus. I haven't given up on vanquishing it - but until we do, we need to have some level of normalcy.

Our rules couldn't be clearer: Masks are required in all indoor spaces, except for (1) private offices and (2) designated eating areas.

Yet yesterday I found about 30 students in 3 dfferent rooms, with more than half unmasked. They didn't expect any authorities to be around, and (2) they believe they are a special little group that is not bound by the rules.

I teach post-graduate students, who are certainly old enough and educated enough, to be competent to understand the rules. I think K-12 should wait until vaccinations are available.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. "I think K-12 should wait until vaccinations are available". Wholeheartedly agree. The ones in the

special, no rules teflon groups will start getting sick, and wonder why.

[Ms. Toad]

29. My problem is the rest of us they are going to take out with them.

One we caught almost kept the two we can identify as close contacts from starting school, when he came down with COVID. One still may not be able to start because of the timing. He likely spread it to at least a dozen more - but since he claims he was not in contact with ANYONE for more than 15 minutes, we can only notify the two whose names we know - not his lunch bunch (indoors, very close quarters). My guess is we'll have our own little mini-spreading event as a result of one idiot who thought he was special.

[Evolve Dammit]

30. Probably so. At 1,000 times more transmissable, Delta probably will infect most of them. Keep us

posted. And best wishes

[Ms. Toad]

34. It's actually only about 4 times more transmissible.

1000 x more virus in the nose, but the R0 is around 8. (The original had an R0 of around 2). The R0 indicates how many people reach infected person will infect. So each person with Delta infects about 4 times as many as each person with the original variant.

[Evolve Dammit]

37. I like your numbers better. Good explanation. Thanks

[Ms. Toad]

38. I was glad to find an R0 number

When the 1000 times more virus came out, it was a bit scary - but not really useful. What does it really mean in terms of transmission? So I started looking for the R0, which is a better indication of the actual relativel risk.

[Evolve Dammit]

39. Even in the MSM there is a lot of conflicting info. Here's hoping!

[c-rational]

20. Thanks for sharing. Back in late May, I got a call from someone I attended an outside meeting

with. She just tested positive after a double vaccine several months prior. We are back to masking all the time.

[Evolve Dammit]

26. The more of these I hear, I wonder about the stated efficacy when vaccines were rolled out.

[Lisa0825]

36. Two words: Delta. Variant. nt

[Evolve Dammit]

40. And the efficacy of Phizer and Moderna with the variant is ___?

[dalton99a]

32. Kick

[Lisa0825]

35. I was vaxxed in January, and have been masking up and being very careful.

I was exposed at a recent work-related event (I have been working from home, but had to attend this event, which was social-distanced and masked, but indoors). We were notified of the exposure and all had to get tested. I was positive!

I was either asymptomatic or had very mild symptoms (hard to say whether I had allergies a couple days or mild covid symptoms). I am still in quarantine a few more days.