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New York Times, CNN and failed Afghanistan coverage
But Her Emails, part II
Eric Boehlert
1 hr ago
One day after the New York Times in a page-one piece inferred that President Joe Biden is an incompetent who lacks empathy, the State Department announced the U.S. had successfully evacuated 30,000 people from Afghanistan since the end of July, and that 8,000 people departed on Saturday alone, as they filled 60 departing flights from Kabul airport. So much for incompetence.
A thinly veiled opinion column that ran under the banner of news analysis, the Times piece was written by White House correspondent Peter Baker. Pounding the dailys preferred downer troop withdrawal narrative, Baker went out of his way to suggest Biden, whose administration is overseeing a massive Afghanistan airlift and troop withdrawal, is similarly incompetent to Trump, who oversaw the death of 600,000 Americans to Covid-19 last year. It was a stunning bout of failed, Both Sides journalism by Baker.
Led by the New York Times and CNNs frenzied reporting and analysis, the media have gone all in with the narrative that Bidens presidency sits on the precipice of ruin in the wake of U.S.s long-expected troop departure from Afghanistan. (Spoiler: It does not.)
Deliberately falling down a deep well of optics reporting (Biden is defiant and defensive) and launching sweeping, and often hysterical, conclusions that are not based in fact, the press gathered up its forces days ago and set off on a one-sided feeding frenzy excursion, where week-old chaotic images are still treated as breaking news by CNN. Lets be honest, if the State Departement announced it had evacuated 100,000 people from Kabul, it wouldnt change the medias predetermined coverage.
Eager to injure Biden, Beltway scribes gleefully engage in groupthink, echo GOP talking points without pause, and set their sights on the leader of the Democratic Party.
Sound familiar? Does this conjure up disturbing images of the 2016 campaign, when the same invested journalists unleashed a feeding frenzy on the countrys top Democrat, feasted on optics analysis, badly overplayed the facts of the story, excitedly amplified Republican lawmakers, obsessed over process, and repeatedly demanded apologies from Hillary Clinton for how she handled her private email correspondence?
Its not possible to watch much of the misguided Afghanistan coverage and not see the clear similarities between that and the medias woeful But Her Emails brand of coverage that helped elect Trump.
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https://pressrun.media/p/new-york-times-cnn-lead-failed-afghanistan
spanone
(135,846 posts)niyad
(113,370 posts)Nothing wrong with inferred imo...
deduce or conclude (information) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.
"from these facts we can infer that crime has been increasing"
niyad
(113,370 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)Imply = give an impression, without specifically saying or demontrating something.
Infer = draw a conclusion or make a determination based on something that was implied.
"One day after the New York Times in a page-one piece inferred that President Joe Biden is an incompetent who lacks empathy..."
If the author of the piece had decided that Biden was incompetent (and communicated such in his piece), then he could have inferred such from Biden's words and actions. If, OTOH, the author communicated his opinion that Biden was imcompetent without coming out and saying it, then he implied it. I agree, the latter is more likely, but the former is not grammatically incorrect, it just has a different meaning.
If someone tells me that Biden is incompetent, as the listener, I can both imply and infer. I can frown at him, implying to him that I thought his statement was nonsense. Or I could infer that the guy I'm talking to probably watches fox.
babylonsister
(171,074 posts)TimeToGo
(1,366 posts)jaxexpat
(6,837 posts)It's a matter of "when", right. The speaker is presumed to have spoken prior to the listener's hearing. Thus the objective implication occurs prior to the subjective inference? We must deduce, within reason, otherwise prioritization is nonsense. Deductive reasoning isn't inferential but it is infernally presumptuous, a venous verbal ferality.. (Requires two periods. One to stop the speaker and the second to stop the hearers misinterpretation.)
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)And a listener can also imply something, through nonverbal communication.
TimeToGo
(1,366 posts)But in the act of communication the speaker is implying not inferring. Or another way of saying it -- the text implies the reader infers.
All that said, it probably isn't super important as the world turns, but it is the language that we have.
elleng
(130,975 posts)READERS infer, WRITERS imply.
sboatcar
(415 posts)By making everything seem chaotic and blowing up the emotions and all of that, they get more viewers, more page views, etc etc.
NCDem47
(2,249 posts)Onscreen TV news graphics scream "BREAKING NEWS" all the damn time. 1. To draw viewers in who are channel surfing and; 2. To make it look like THEY are in the know and covering something a comeptitor isn't.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Sad, but true. Controversy sells.
Escurumbele
(3,396 posts)enemy of the people" doesn't sound too far fetched, does it?
It is all about the money, most of the media have become cowards and tabloids reporting...what a shame.
mvd
(65,174 posts)I have hardly heard anything about the successful evacuation. The MSM has officially been exposed as the corporate pro-war toadies that they are. I also think the proposed tax increases in the reconciliation bill are making the media owners nervous, with the result being the rhetoric is even worse.
CNN keeps showing footage from a week ago, of people clinging to plane as if that chaos is still in effect today. Biden is a hero for not bending to the hysteria of the vast majority of cable news the past week.
IronLionZion
(45,460 posts)if you add a 6 and four zeroes. Both sides. Same diff.
Trump was bloviating at his rally in Alabama how Biden is spreading COVID around by letting foreigners in, but mostly in Southern red states.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)and insulting to the people of Afghanistan. There are actually lives involved this time. This is important news.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)He was saying the same type of inflating stories for ratings is what got Trump elected. 'But her emails' is a generic term for this, it is not equating the emails to the lives of Afghans.
In the 10 days the media was breathless about how bad Biden was in Afghanistan....10000 Americans died of Covid, our infrastructure continued to crumble while the media weakened Biden.
This media inflating a story for ratings is how Trump got elected.....her emails was made more important than all the horrors Trump had committed in his life and what he might do to the country.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)I don't think you should say the media is "inflating a story for ratings"; I think most Americans should be honest and say they don't care about the future of Afghanistan, whether they're Democrats or Republicans. But CNN has always had international coverage, not just internal to the United States, and the New York Times tends that way too. The media outside the USA is also reporting heavily on Afghanistan, while "her emails" largely got a "WTF are they obsessing about?" reaction.