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StClone

(11,684 posts)
4. Notice where Undecided are?
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:35 PM
Aug 2021

When Independents try to make the case they are "independent" as in thoughtful, well-read, reasoning, wanting to see all sides. I'll call a foul. They are pretty much as dumb, ill-formed, belaboring in illogical, magical thinking as the truly Red, though not as bad as the Trumpaholics.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
6. Most of the Indies I've come across were closeted repubs...
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:10 PM
Aug 2021

They wanted to claim some kid of false superiority to someone who actually chose a party and claim they were some kind of free thinkers while parroting RW talking points and the usual Qanon based bullshit.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
10. Real independents are that way. If they always vote say for republicans they are not but try to
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:52 PM
Aug 2021

pretend they are. They are easy to spot because in part they spit out dogma and never show interest in hearing new information of any kind.

Almost laughable.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
7. Really? 55% of registered Republicans are already vaccinated?
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:27 PM
Aug 2021

That number actually gives me some hope, IF they're telling the truth.
I know that Repukes love lying to the pollsters every chance they get.

Just sayin'

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
9. So increases of 13x the # of cases and 5x the # of deaths
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:46 PM
Aug 2021

I’m sure there a breakdown of that somewhere in the data. Fewer deaths because breakthrough vaccinated cases, increased use of monoclonal antibodies.

Probably greater deaths among the anti vaxxers who tried to hold out until they were pretty bad and, God forbid, kids who couldn’t have the treatments approved for adults. Hope that’s only a small fraction of the deaths.

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