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riversedge

(70,243 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:03 PM Aug 2021

OMG! Some Covid skeptics are demanding blood transfusions ONLY from the UNvaccinated.........

I have just about heard it all now.




‘Tainted’ blood: Covid skeptics request blood transfusions from unvaccinated donors

https://qz.com/2048991/covid-skeptics-request-blood-transfusions-from-unvaccinated-people/


Some who are skeptical of the Covid-19 vaccine have begun demanding transfusions only from the unvaccinated, an option blood centers insist is neither medically sound nor operationally feasible.


By JoNel Aleccia & Kaiser Health News



Published August 18, 2021

The nation’s roiling tensions over vaccination against Covid-19 have spilled into an unexpected arena: lifesaving blood transfusions.

With nearly 60% of the eligible US population fully vaccinated, most of the nation’s blood supply is now coming from donors who have been inoculated, experts said. That’s led some patients who are skeptical of the shots to demand transfusions only from the unvaccinated, an option blood centers insist is neither medically sound nor operationally feasible.

“We are definitely aware of patients who have refused blood products from vaccinated donors,” said Dr. Julie Katz Karp, who directs the blood bank and transfusion medicine program at Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals in Philadelphia.

Emily Osment, an American Red Cross spokesperson, said her organization has fielded questions from clients worried that vaccinated blood would be “tainted,” capable of transmitting components from the Covid vaccines. Red Cross officials said they’ve had to reassure clients that a Covid vaccine, which is injected into muscle or the layer of skin below, doesn’t circulate in the blood.

“While the antibodies that are produced by the stimulated immune system in response to vaccination are found throughout the bloodstream, the actual vaccine components are not,” Jessa Merrill, the Red Cross director of biomedical communications, said in an email..................................



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OMG! Some Covid skeptics are demanding blood transfusions ONLY from the UNvaccinated......... (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2021 OP
Tainted Love is going to need a parody song. N/t LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #1
Tainted blood whoaaaaaaaaaaoa... Tainted blood whoaaaaaaaaoa... Initech Aug 2021 #28
No blood bank WOULD accomodate that (even if they could)... Malpractice. hlthe2b Aug 2021 #2
DEMAND? SallyHemmings Aug 2021 #3
They'd better stockpile supplies.... SergeStorms Aug 2021 #22
They are NOT Covid skeptics, we need to change the vocabulary. they are Eliot Rosewater Aug 2021 #4
Let's all dedicate our donations to: Vaccinated Only. vanlassie Aug 2021 #5
umm.. now that is a thought to ponder. riversedge Aug 2021 #30
Thought they weren't allowed to ask lame54 Aug 2021 #6
Go ahead and die, then. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #7
For god's sakes... Raster Aug 2021 #8
Yep. I'm there with you. And this isn't malice. It's just that there is nothing we can do to stop Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #14
It's like the gene pool is literally cleaning itself right now (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #9
Yeah sure. Just take a seat on that bench and when we get blood that's labeled ... Jim__ Aug 2021 #10
So die if you need a transfusion or bring your typed and cross matched family member with you PortTack Aug 2021 #11
Who gives a shit if they "demand" this? That's not how it works, and they are just looking for Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #12
How about no blood. onecaliberal Aug 2021 #13
So what are they gonna do canetoad Aug 2021 #15
Just want to say thank you for your incredible generosity rurallib Aug 2021 #20
O-neg here and CMV neg as well. Ilsa Aug 2021 #36
Wow canetoad Aug 2021 #38
After reading the article about how 90% of the blood Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #16
That was the thinking behind the convalescent plasma clinical trials Tanuki Aug 2021 #25
Thanks. Like I said, Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #26
They're not "skeptics," they're insane. NT Bleacher Creature Aug 2021 #17
Considering that the kind of people who donate blood rurallib Aug 2021 #18
Tell them the only unvaccinated blood is from black donors and see their reaction captain queeg Aug 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Aug 2021 #33
So exactly how would that work? louslobbs Aug 2021 #21
Taking stupid to a whole new level. Vinca Aug 2021 #23
Why do these people even go to a doctor or hospital kskiska Aug 2021 #24
Then let them die. roamer65 Aug 2021 #27
The quicker these peope die, the better Azathoth Aug 2021 #29
Want to bet irisblue Aug 2021 #31
Then Let Them Die! ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #32
Keep the blood, give them the taint. N/t LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #34
If the gubmint is tracking people with microchips, ANY visit to a hospital would get you one. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #35
Yes, I'm going to force my trackable, magnetized blood on Ilsa Aug 2021 #37

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
22. They'd better stockpile supplies....
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:04 PM
Aug 2021

of their own blood if they're going to be such snowflakes.

Freaking idiots.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
4. They are NOT Covid skeptics, we need to change the vocabulary. they are
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:08 PM
Aug 2021

TRUMP WORSHIPPERS and whether it was the vaccination, masks or deodorant, if the dumbest adult alive (rump) tells them something they will believe it until DEATH...

I wish the media would call them what they are! I am not talking to the OP I realize they are quoting.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
8. For god's sakes...
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:15 PM
Aug 2021

... just let them fucking die.

Yeah, I said it. I am so tired of the stupid and uneducated controling the narative.

Let. Them. Die.

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
14. Yep. I'm there with you. And this isn't malice. It's just that there is nothing we can do to stop
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:32 PM
Aug 2021

them, and we're tired of caring about their determined self-destruction.

They want to make these "demands"? They can wallow in their own idiocy and see it to its logical ending.

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
10. Yeah sure. Just take a seat on that bench and when we get blood that's labeled ...
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:23 PM
Aug 2021

... from the unvaccinated, we'll call you over.

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
11. So die if you need a transfusion or bring your typed and cross matched family member with you
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:30 PM
Aug 2021

It’s no guarantee that a family member will match you, and Even at that one individual can only safely give one unit.



Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
12. Who gives a shit if they "demand" this? That's not how it works, and they are just looking for
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:31 PM
Aug 2021

attention. We shouldn't give it.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
15. So what are they gonna do
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

When the life saving blood turns out to contain vaccine? Have the doctors suck it all out again?

I've given blood since my 20s. In the city, I had a friend who was a nurse at the blood bank and she told me, without any details, what the usage of my blood donations was - I'm O neg.

10% to general use
20% to haemophilliacs
70% to babies with erythroblastosis - when the baby's rh reacts with the mother's.

I hope these fuckwits consider this.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. O-neg here and CMV neg as well.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:08 PM
Aug 2021

It was frequently reserved for NICUs, but supply is so low right now that it probably gets used right away.

Before cell savers, I had been called as late as the night to donate before an open-heart surgery, when dozens of pints were needed.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
16. After reading the article about how 90% of the blood
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

on hand contains antibodies, I wonder if a transfusion would work as a treatment for someone who has already contracted the virus?

I'm not a medical expert, and I'm sure if that would work, they would be doing it already. So my real question, I guess, is why wouldn't it work? Anybody know?

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
25. That was the thinking behind the convalescent plasma clinical trials
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 06:00 PM
Aug 2021

early in the pandemic, but it did not turn out to be helpful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6901125002

"The federal government discontinued a research trial of convalescent plasma for COVID-19 saying the blood product from recovered patients doesn't prevent at-risk people visiting emergency rooms from getting sicker.
...
"We do not see any sign that convalescent plasma had a benefit" in ER patients at risk for more serious disease, said Dr. Simone Glynn, program scientist for the trial.

Plasma from recovered patients contains antibodies or proteins generated by the immune system to fight disease. In some conditions, such as the flu, antibodies from a recovered patient are widely believed to help someone who has been infected.

For COVID-19, convalescent plasma "just doesn't look like it's providing any significant impact on things that count: mortality and hospitalization," said Dr. Daniel Griffin, an infectious disease specialist at ProHEALTH Care in New York."...(more at link)

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
18. Considering that the kind of people who donate blood
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:48 PM
Aug 2021

are probably not selfish since giving blood is a very generous act I would guess that most of the people who donate are probably vaccinated also.

So good luck finding that rare unvaccinated pint of blood.

Next thing you know someone will be selling unvaxxed pints on the dark net. for $2000 a throw. Then that purchaser must figure out a way to get it in the body.

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
19. Tell them the only unvaccinated blood is from black donors and see their reaction
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:48 PM
Aug 2021

Just to yank their fucking chain. I don’t think blood banks keep any info beyond blood type.

Response to captain queeg (Reply #19)

louslobbs

(3,235 posts)
21. So exactly how would that work?
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:53 PM
Aug 2021

Like a Starbucks order? I’ll have a non vaccinated, extra white, non black, 1/2 nazi, non Muslim, triple traitor, trump cult, authoritarian blood transfusion please? Like that?

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
24. Why do these people even go to a doctor or hospital
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:20 PM
Aug 2021

when they get sick if they don't believe in science?

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
29. The quicker these peope die, the better
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 06:08 PM
Aug 2021

As someone taking care of high-risk seniors, I've had all I can take of these delusional sociopaths dragging this pandemic on.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
31. Want to bet
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 06:41 PM
Aug 2021

some trumpers are demanding white non vaxxed blood.
(I type this w/o any first hand knowledge of such)

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
35. If the gubmint is tracking people with microchips, ANY visit to a hospital would get you one.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:01 PM
Aug 2021

.

These idiots don't think it through.

But that would mean millions of people are covering this up, without one iota of proof leaking out.

You know, sorta like them Chemtrails and how millions would be in on the fix.

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