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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:25 PM Aug 2021

I don't think full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine will persuade more than a few of the

unvaccinated to roll up their sleeves.

It is not as though they will suddenly lose the only reason they had for not getting vaccinated. Most will simply be losing the EXCUSE that kinda sorta maybe sounded like a reason. They are even now deciding what will be their new "reason" for avoiding the shot.

Many, if they were honest, (I know, I know!) would admit that they won't get vaccinated because that might be seen as "helping Joe Biden" by reducing the pandemic toll on his watch.

Mandates, please!

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I don't think full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine will persuade more than a few of the (Original Post) Atticus Aug 2021 OP
It was never about FDA approval or the lack thereof. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #1
It will ramp up vaccine requirements dsc Aug 2021 #2
Insurance Companies SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #3
They cannot do that fescuerescue Aug 2021 #12
Yes. Some aren't really rabidly partisan, and for them full approval Hortensis Aug 2021 #7
I had one guy way back when Trump was in and Covid was spreading say ... RKP5637 Aug 2021 #4
I just tried once again to get my sister to get the vaccine, secondwind Aug 2021 #5
It will when it means they'll lose their job if they don't kcr Aug 2021 #6
It was never the FDA Tree-Hugger Aug 2021 #8
It was just an excuse all along Hekate Aug 2021 #9
They'll have a fresh excuse by nightfall gratuitous Aug 2021 #10
but it will allow.. agingdem Aug 2021 #11
The number persuaded won't be zero fescuerescue Aug 2021 #13
Agree. nt Atticus Aug 2021 #15
They can choose not to get it. LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #14
What the full approval allows, though, is employers and schools to require it. RockRaven Aug 2021 #16

dsc

(52,163 posts)
2. It will ramp up vaccine requirements
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:30 PM
Aug 2021

and that will make some of the hold outs get vaccinated. I do think at the margins it might help convince some, but the real effect will be increasing the number of people subject to requirements exponentially.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. Insurance Companies
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:34 PM
Aug 2021

I'm waiting for that shoe to drop. People will be notified that coverage won't be provided for hospital care, should the need arise, and they are not vaccinated.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Yes. Some aren't really rabidly partisan, and for them full approval
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:43 PM
Aug 2021

will join various other forces urging vaccination, including fear.

But my guess is you're right that its biggest effect will be on institutions to require vaccination, and growing numbers of those who are vaccinated should itself be a strengthening force for vaccination in general.

Most people, and especially those who run with factions instead of thinking, need the reassurance of believing they represent "the people," the righteous majority and the "winning" side, and that those they oppose are an undeserving minority who must be stopped. Getting harder and harder.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. I had one guy way back when Trump was in and Covid was spreading say ...
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

"I'm willing to die for Trump, I've lived long enough." A total WTF. Covid and death is a vote for Trump back then, I guess ... That, is how seriously mentally fucked up some of these asses are!!!

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
5. I just tried once again to get my sister to get the vaccine,
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

she lives with a 7 yr old asthmatic child. Am appalled by this behavior, her answer is “we’re doing just fine”. 🤬

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
8. It was never the FDA
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:46 PM
Aug 2021

These are the same people who try to push MLM supplements and essential p6ils as cure alls. They constantly say that the FDA is too corrupt to approve of the oils/supplements and should never be trusted. I find it frustratingly amusing that they are the same people have been crying that the vx wasn't FDA approved.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. They'll have a fresh excuse by nightfall
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:56 PM
Aug 2021

And when that new excuse comes apart, they'll fashion a new one.

I've decided I'm not interested in having this discussion with these knuckleheads anymore. At this point, my statement to the "hesitants" is "You're wrong and you know it."

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
11. but it will allow..
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:02 PM
Aug 2021

businesses, airlines, universities, hospitals to mandate vaccines...get vaccinated or no job, no seat on a plane, no college acceptance, and no triage/hospital bed

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
14. They can choose not to get it.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:11 PM
Aug 2021

And work can choose to fire them and insurance can choose not to cover them.

The approval is equivalent to checkmate.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
16. What the full approval allows, though, is employers and schools to require it.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:23 PM
Aug 2021

Just like many do for measles and polio and whatever.

Most of these bullshitters are going to quietly get vaccinated to keep their job. Look at the NFL. Originally there were tons of morons unvaccinated. The league then put in a bunch of rules for unvaccinated players which made it more attractive to cut unvaxxed players and all of a sudden almost all of them "learned more" and "became comfortable" and "were convinced." Yeah, there are still some high profile idiots holding out, but any of the players who were even slightly uncomfortable in their job security got jabbed.

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