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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:49 AM Aug 2021

CNN, really? Fauci statement and timeline DISASTER for Biden and Dems

Fauci's new 2022 timeline for Covid fight could be a political disaster for Biden and Democrats

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/24/politics/anthony-fauci-timeline-covid-joe-biden/index.html

President Joe Biden just got some deeply unwelcome news: The pandemic that he was elected to end could drag on deep into a midterm election year, with all the political and economic destruction that could bring.


It also meant that Biden's best-laid plans of triumphing over the pandemic and riding an economic wave into the campaign for congressional election results in November next year now look at risk.

If the emergency does go on that long, it will offer an opening for Republicans who are seeking to brand Biden's presidency as a failure -- and who are seizing on his chaotic evacuation from Afghanistan to paint a broader narrative of political decay.


—second to last paragraph is the elephant in the room this author missed—

Even as conditions worsen, the political frenzy over the virus, vaccines and Covid-19 treatments is escalating. Several Republican governors, including Florida's Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott of Texas, are waging cultural wars over mask mandates in schools ahead of reelection races and possible presidential bids. Trump's lukewarm endorsement of vaccines was booed by his crowd in Alabama on Saturday night, so don't look for the ex-President to drop much political capital on the issue in future. And the FDA just had to warn against a new crank Covid "cure" -- a livestock deworming drug -- pushed on conservative and social media.



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CNN, really? Fauci statement and timeline DISASTER for Biden and Dems (Original Post) underpants Aug 2021 OP
Just saw this. Speechless Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #1
It would make everything exponentially worse. ananda Aug 2021 #50
CNN is off the charts . . . Lovie777 Aug 2021 #2
Yup... agingdem Aug 2021 #12
He met the goal early in fact. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #18
don't underestimate Joe and his team... agingdem Aug 2021 #29
Such Bullshit. spanone Aug 2021 #3
CNN is missing one thing ScratchCat Aug 2021 #4
I think you are wrong his polls are already dropping doc03 Aug 2021 #9
You are talking about current, contrived polls ScratchCat Aug 2021 #16
I wouldn't bet on that. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #20
That's not even remotely similar ScratchCat Aug 2021 #22
I'd like that to be overly cynical, FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #25
+1 luckone Aug 2021 #35
Anti-vaxxers and maskers fault . ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #5
I've given up on CNN and haven't watched them is over a week. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2021 #6
I quit watching CNN ages ago. They're absolute garbage. Marius25 Aug 2021 #19
CNN going full RW now vercetti2021 Aug 2021 #7
Looks like it. moondust Aug 2021 #24
If people are so sick of the pandemic Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #8
Unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, dissatisfied voters take it out on the current admin. Hoyt Aug 2021 #10
In Favor Of One WHITT Aug 2021 #14
Right? Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #15
Luckily, that admin was ditched last year and won't be back. Hoyt Aug 2021 #26
His Niece WHITT Aug 2021 #28
I doubt Mary trump has had much interaction with donald the past year or so. He's gone. Hoyt Aug 2021 #30
But She's Had Decades WHITT Aug 2021 #37
If Democratic voters show up, we are going to be fine. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #42
Republicans win when America fails. Midnight Writer Aug 2021 #11
Time Warner owns CNN Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #13
truth right there FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #21
They need two horses in the race or no one watches it underpants Aug 2021 #33
Time Warner? No Beaverhausen Aug 2021 #34
Thanks for the correction! Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #36
IMO the CDC's decision to change its mask wearing recommendation back in May was a major factor CentralMass Aug 2021 #17
agreed FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #23
If more people were vaxxed Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #32
Well, they weren't. pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #47
I was complaining a bit ago about the fact that Roku has no good free Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #27
So do you think science-based predictions should be altered for political purposes? Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #31
Football season is only a few weeks away underpants Aug 2021 #40
I suspect crowding into (indoor) classrooms will have a much more significant impact. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #43
Exactly. WTF is the issue with this? CNN is reporting what Fauci is estimating will happen unless beaglelover Aug 2021 #44
CNN, for the most part, is Fox lite, and has been Greybnk48 Aug 2021 #38
CNN is dead to me. Mme. Defarge Aug 2021 #39
How many more variants between now and late spring? Strelnikov_ Aug 2021 #41
OR we discover a theraputic cure that allows people to get over COVID once they get it beaglelover Aug 2021 #46
Stephen Collinson wrote this. He specializes in senseandsensibility Aug 2021 #45
I didn't elect Biden to end the pandemic . . . StatWoman Aug 2021 #48
Collinson is a right winger. Always has been. BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #49

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
12. Yup...
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:06 AM
Aug 2021

Joe promised enough vaccine to immunize the entire population and he delivered...a person can walk into any CVS/Walgreens and get a jab..no playing the vaccine lottery...the Republican governors in red states are killing kids and the un-vaxxed gullibly stupid are allowing them to do it..Joe will not get the blame...the apathetic callous governors will be held accountable...and fuck CNN!

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
18. He met the goal early in fact.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:10 AM
Aug 2021

But as long as the media covers it this way, it will be the result republicons want. They'll blame Biden for the economy, jobs, disease and death. All of which is the direct fault of MF45. But we won't hear that.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
29. don't underestimate Joe and his team...
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:25 AM
Aug 2021

the economy is still chugging along nicely, the job market is different but not dire...and don't underestimate Trump fatigue...even the republicans hate his guts...all those nazi loving rally goers voted for the that depraved sociopath in 2020 but we still won.. we endured voter restrictions, hours long voter wait lines, Trump/Barr/DeJoy's attempt to fix the election and with all that shit thrown at us we still won...and don't forget there's whole generation of younger voters who hate everything the GOP stand for...and they vote..do you remember the joyous dancing in the streets when Biden/Harris were declared the winners..those guys vote...

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
4. CNN is missing one thing
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:54 AM
Aug 2021

The mass carnage we are about to witness will not be seen as Biden's fault, but the fault of those idiots Republican Governors. Folks, there will be mass child deaths from sea to sea and that will finally sink these idiots.

CNN can go to hell with this nonsense.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
9. I think you are wrong his polls are already dropping
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:01 AM
Aug 2021

because of the way he is handling of COVID. He is getting the blame for people not getting vaccinated I guess. It basicly depends on how the media interprets it. They can't let Biden get too popular no horse race in 2022 and 2024 ratings ad
revenues will tank.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
16. You are talking about current, contrived polls
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:09 AM
Aug 2021

When kids start dying in mass, in Red States across this country, Biden will not be blamed. DeSantis and others will be held accountable for killing children, not Biden.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
20. I wouldn't bet on that.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:11 AM
Aug 2021

There are mass child deaths every time some asshole goes to a school with an AR-15 machine gun.

Steve Scalise was nearly murdered himself and is still an NRA shill.

They won't care about this either.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
25. I'd like that to be overly cynical,
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:15 AM
Aug 2021

but nothing really gets through to them. Their media informers find a way to sell everything to them.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
5. Anti-vaxxers and maskers fault .
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:55 AM
Aug 2021

Not Joe and the Democrats. THAT is the nessage because Joe has been saying everyday, "GET VACCINATED. It is the PATRIOTIC thing to do "

Anybody disagree with that?

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
6. I've given up on CNN and haven't watched them is over a week.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

Joy, Rachel and Lawrence on MSNBC are just about it for my cable news viewing. Most Dems I know are also fed up with them.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
7. CNN going full RW now
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

They need viewers somewhere. I guess alienating Dems is somehow an appealing grab to them? Lmao

moondust

(19,993 posts)
24. Looks like it.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:15 AM
Aug 2021

Blaming Biden and Democrats for the "botched" (per John Avlon) Afghan evacuation and a deadly virus that won't go away largely because the GQP is spreading it with their irresponsible policies and practices. Was that the GQP plan all along and CNN is finally getting on board with Fux, OAN, and Newsmax? Pathetic.

Mad_Machine76

(24,414 posts)
8. If people are so sick of the pandemic
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

they need to stop contributing to it by getting vaxxed, masking up as needed, etc. Dumping or revolting against some leaders like Abbott and DeathSantis would help too. And there is literally only so much Biden/Dems can do. People should be attacking Republicans for their efforts to extend the pandemic.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
13. Time Warner owns CNN
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:07 AM
Aug 2021

They want their big ratings, big election year paydays and, most of all, their big tax cuts.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
34. Time Warner? No
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:34 AM
Aug 2021

AT&T currently owns WarnerMedia (but not for long)

There is no Time Warner anymore.

I know because I work at Warner Bros.

AT&T has sucked and thank god they are going to sell us off.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
17. IMO the CDC's decision to change its mask wearing recommendation back in May was a major factor
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:09 AM
Aug 2021

in this latest surge.

Mad_Machine76

(24,414 posts)
32. If more people were vaxxed
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

then it might not have been. The guidance was maybe a bit naive in terms of thinking that more people would voluntarily do the right thing and get vaxxed and maybe it was premature, but at that point in time cases were lower and we had had the vaccines for a few months. At some point, the guidance had to change based on the circumstances on the ground. They lifted the gate a bit, intending it for vaxxed people but then pretty much everybody took it as a sign that they too can just throw the masks off even if they weren't vaxxed.

pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
47. Well, they weren't.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:42 PM
Aug 2021

They lifted the mask ban way too early. That was a major mistake on the CDC's part, I'm sorry to say.

And I don't give them a pass, not one single inch for their ridiculous excuse of "only the vaccinated were supposed to take their masks off." Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of human behavior predicted from the moment this was announced that the anti-vax, anti-mask crowd was going to rip their masks off, too. They hated wearing them in the first place, and only grudgingly did because it was required. No way were they going to wear masks when others (vaccinated) were taking them off, especially when there is no easy way to determine on sight who is vaxed and who isn't.

I am sorry, but to a great extent, I blame the CDC's monumentally bad call on masks this spring for us being in the current state we are today.

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
27. I was complaining a bit ago about the fact that Roku has no good free
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

option for CNN. Not so sad about that any more.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
31. So do you think science-based predictions should be altered for political purposes?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:32 AM
Aug 2021

Glad to see that Fauci's reality-based assessment is meeting with the same political response that the realists on DU have been met with for months.

(I don't do personal predictions more than a couple months out, but his projections seem based in reality to me, as we head back to indoor venues, full on in person schools, mask resistance among both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, coupled with the success of vaccines in minimizing the disease for the vaccinated - leading to vaccinated individuals with COVID spreading it to others because we don't know we have it - or because we pretend it is just a cold.)

COVID has its own timeline - and the longer we try to pretend it is over (and do play stupid games like ditching the masks and packing indoor venues), the longer we contribute to extending the timeline (winning stupid prizes).

Get vaccinated, mask up, and stay away from crowded indoor venues.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
40. Football season is only a few weeks away
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:00 PM
Aug 2021

Specifically college football. Big crowds. Screaming and yelling. Especially in the south - really everywhere but the Northeast (lots of small schools though)

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
43. I suspect crowding into (indoor) classrooms will have a much more significant impact.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:33 PM
Aug 2021

But with Delta, outdoor transmission will have much more of an impact than it did with the original variant.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
44. Exactly. WTF is the issue with this? CNN is reporting what Fauci is estimating will happen unless
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
Aug 2021

we get more people vaccinated. It's fucking depressing as hell to think about, but we may not be done with COVID for years to come.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
41. How many more variants between now and late spring?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:04 PM
Aug 2021

There are only two one ways out of this, vaccination with mitigation, or millions (tens?) dead just in this country as 'herd immunity' burns through and collapses the health care system.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
46. OR we discover a theraputic cure that allows people to get over COVID once they get it
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:39 PM
Aug 2021

so they don't die.

senseandsensibility

(17,066 posts)
45. Stephen Collinson wrote this. He specializes in
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:39 PM
Aug 2021

"Dems in Disarray!" screaming headlines. I've seen a few and started checking the byline. It started fairly recently as if he was brought in to dirty up Biden.

StatWoman

(518 posts)
48. I didn't elect Biden to end the pandemic . . .
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 01:07 PM
Aug 2021

This planet has close to 8 billion humans on it. I'm not naive enough to think a president has super-powers.

I did elect Biden to not follow a policy of "Get sick and die, serfs! It's good for the economy!". He has more than delivered on my expectations.

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