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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:26 PM Aug 2021

Does this make you think any less of the Trudeau Government?

I started to follow him extremely closely during the Trump years, as it was a breath of fresh air and light from the darkness of the Trump era. Anyway, the Canadian media is apparently off it's rocker with rage over this story. I don't see any reason why it should alter perceptions of the Trudeau government at all. In the full context of what she said, it's a non-event in my eyes.

Anyway, here's the story:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-minister-monsef-says-her-mention-of-taliban-as-our-brothers-is-a-cultural-reference-1.5560821

“I want to take this opportunity to speak with our brothers, the Taliban. We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country. We call on you to immediately stop the violence, the genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure, including heritage buildings,” she said, speaking alongside colleagues while providing an update about Canada’s efforts to evacuate Afghans from the country.

When asked later if the term “brothers” reflected a softening of the government’s approach to the Taliban, she responded: “Hardly.”

“The Taliban are a terrorist group and yet they claim to be Muslims,” she said. “The reference to brothers is a cultural reference of course but let me be very clear, we do not support the Taliban, we are horrified the hard-won gains of the past 20 years are at stake.”


I just want to make sure that my rose-coloured glasses towards Trudeau aren't making me miss something here. I see this as just more right-wing faux outrage that they're so good at. You don't join in their outrage, do you? Let me know if I'm way off base here. I see it as, at worst, an attempt to soften the Taliban up to help Canadians get out of Afghanistan, which the Canadian media claims to so desperately want. It also comes at a moment when Trudeau is surging in the polls. Coincidence for this to become a thing?
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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. That should have been stoped by someone with a reality check. That's the stuff you say to them
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:35 PM
Aug 2021

in private if you are a diplomat trying to convince them because you know how it would be taken if made public.

"I want to take this opportunity to speak with our brothers, the Taliban." - playing over and over in a political ad would be pretty bad.


NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
4. Yeah
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:38 PM
Aug 2021

I read that she was demoted from a more senior post earlier because she is mistake-prone. I am starting to see why. Still, we need to review her entire statement in context also.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. One of the things that Orwell really was prescient about in _1984_ was the "2 minutes hate"...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:48 PM
Aug 2021

people really do love that and the Internet and modern media serve up subjects daily.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
8. I wonder if that would be different
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

If the GOQ hadn't made that their favorite campaign tactic, going back to 2004 and the Mary Cheney Kerry comments (remember?).

BannonsLiver

(16,439 posts)
7. Not really.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:06 PM
Aug 2021

Canada has a different role/place in the world than we do, and if he feels like this is the appropriate approach I’m comfortable with his judgement.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
9. I have close family in Canada and many ancestors that came from there so I follow the news
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:08 PM
Aug 2021

closely. I expect better from the CBC/Canadian Broadcast Corporation and other media there. It's
like they've forgotten Harper, the Tory PM that preceded Trudeau. How very like the U.S. MSM.
I'll take Trudeau over any Tory Fascist.

luckone

(21,646 posts)
10. +1 Canada is one of the biggest oil producers as we all know and some of my opinion
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:31 PM
Aug 2021

of him already is based on how he stands for climate change while trying to expand oil pipeline for the industry . First Nations and environmental groups know the damage already seen chemicals leaking into groundwater and I don’t care he was disappointed about Keystone and USA
So I don’t have a great opinion of him , but Canada could do much much worse .
These statement don’t move my opinion one way or another but yeah the haters will make something of it
But of course he must deal with conservatives up north stirring shit about this along with their media too. It’s too be expected with his popularity they want to drag him with something so this works this week.

Thank you Joe Biden for stopping the Keystone Pipeline on your first day as President
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