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Control of the SCOTUS and the future of Roe Vs. Wade was on the ballot in 2016 (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 OP
File under elections have consequences bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #1
Jill Stein and Michael Flynn are traitors. CottonBear Sep 2021 #5
Russia's best friend along Trump and Dana Rohbacher bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #9
in nazi germany and soviet union neighbors were required to report on neighbors/family nt msongs Sep 2021 #2
2016 was one of the most important elections in out country's history LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #3
And the Voting Rights Act is gutted. You'd almost think someone wants women & POC ... Hekate Sep 2021 #4
Really? Gee, I thought it was about choosing which national healthcare system Hortensis Sep 2021 #6
Too Bad Democrats Don't Control Government in 2021 wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #7
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #8
We don't have complete control...can't do anything about abortion rights. That ship sailed in 2016. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #10
The Dems can roll back all the goop abuses any time they want wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #11
Guess we'll just have to vote harder in 2022!!!1!!1!111!!1 WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #12
We can't get rid of Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #14
Expand the courts wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #21
RBG staying on didn't help, either. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #13
We needed to win in 2016. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #15
We did need to win in 2016. And RBG needed to retire during Obama's term. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #17
this nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #24
The SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 but these warnings were ignored LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #16
+1. Fucking idiot. dalton99a Sep 2021 #27
Yup. ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #18
It's on the ballot EVERY 4 years fescuerescue Sep 2021 #19
Hey, hats off to Susan Sarandon for helping to both get us into Afghanistan and out of Roe v. Wade. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #20
She was right about everything, but millions believed right-wing false propaganda LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #22
+1 MustLoveBeagles Sep 2021 #23
Blame Susan Sarandon when your reproductive rights get taken away LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #25
Elections matter. Every single one of them LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #26
Anyone who encouraged you to vote 3rd party instead of for the Dem is RESPONSIBLE for this mess! LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #28
Opinion: Hillary Clinton warned us this day would come LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #29
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #30

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
1. File under elections have consequences
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:21 AM
Sep 2021

Even if Jill and Susan don’t see the difference.

The best option is the best choice, especially when it is the only option. Jill Stein is and always has been a joke and now choice is the punchline.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
5. Jill Stein and Michael Flynn are traitors.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:02 AM
Sep 2021

December 2015 gala dinner with Putin:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna742696

...snip...
Stein's 2016 campaign was heavily promoted by RT. She hasn't spoken much about the RT dinner, but in an interview with NBC News last fall, she deflected questions about her appearance, instead chastising the U.S. media for not paying attention to her campaign while RT gave it a lot more attention.

...snip...

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
3. 2016 was one of the most important elections in out country's history
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:50 AM
Sep 2021

We all knew that the winner would get 3 or 4 SCOTUS selections


Hekate

(90,686 posts)
4. And the Voting Rights Act is gutted. You'd almost think someone wants women & POC ...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:14 AM
Sep 2021

… to know their places. But by golly, we should have stayed in Afghanistan to protect their women and girls.

Personally, I just want to scream and scream and scream. Tears are starting to leak.

Thank you for all the work you do and have done, LMPV. Gotta go.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Really? Gee, I thought it was about choosing which national healthcare system
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:11 AM
Sep 2021

we wanted, A or B. Not about whether to keep or destroy our liberal democracy and along with that whether we should have any rights to healthcare itself. I'm sure we were lead to believe that.

Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #7)

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
10. We don't have complete control...can't do anything about abortion rights. That ship sailed in 2016.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 06:36 AM
Sep 2021

But her emails were so fucking important and all...I mean abortion rights... who cares am I right...

We have limited control...but we could have stopped the court-packing had Hillary won the election. Now we are in trouble in terms of abortion rights, civil rights, and of course voting rights. We have a Republic that is hanging on by a thread.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
11. The Dems can roll back all the goop abuses any time they want
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 08:35 AM
Sep 2021

Democrats didn't spend time and energy electing Biden and a Democratic majority in both the House and Senate for nothing.

The handful of holdouts just need the political will to do it, and you know whom I'm talking about. It would be a better use of time and energy directing your anger towards that crowd now instead of licking wounds over Jill Stein.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,345 posts)
12. Guess we'll just have to vote harder in 2022!!!1!!1!111!!1
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 08:37 AM
Sep 2021

THEN we'll get something done!!!!111111!1!!!!1!!

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
15. We needed to win in 2016.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 08:45 AM
Sep 2021

We lost 3 justices to the conservatives. Some so-called progressives throwing a fit in 2016 is the reason why we are where we are today.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
29. Opinion: Hillary Clinton warned us this day would come
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 12:28 AM
Sep 2021



The results are in. Of the five Supreme Court justices who allowed Texas to implement the strictest abortion ban in the nation, three — Neil M. Gorsuch in 2017, Brett M. Kavanaugh in 2018 and Amy Coney Barrett in 2020 — were appointed by President Trump.

You may argue back and forth whether fair warning is ever fair play. But there’s no disputing the fact that Clinton’s red alert came in plenty of time for voters caring about women’s rights to plan how to deal with Trump on Election Day. Did it fall on deaf ears?

Clinton handily won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college. Too many voters, in states where they were needed, failed to turn out or skipped her name on the ballot. The whys of it are being debated to this day. The fact is that some voters might have heard what she said was at stake but still chose to follow the alluring sounds of Trump’s snake-oil campaign.

Had truth won out in 2016, this dark day for women’s rights could have been avoided.

But, perhaps, some consolation might come with the thought that Texas’s dreadful law might serve to mobilize women’s health voters — across the entire gender spectrum — to do what apparently too many failed to do five years ago: flock to the polls to protect reproductive freedom like there’s no tomorrow. There wasn’t one for candidate Clinton five years ago. There should be plenty of tomorrows, however, for the cause of reproductive rights and justice — if voters, next time around, respond as they should have when Hillary Clinton first sounded the alarm.

Now, there’s no excuse.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
30. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:47 PM
Sep 2021

Right now we are seeing history being repeated in California. There are a good number of people who seem to want Newsome to be recalled and Larry Elder become governor to help facilitate the "Revolution."


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