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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsControl of the SCOTUS and the future of Roe Vs. Wade was on the ballot in 2016
Thanks to Jill Stein, Susan Sarandon and the voters who stayed home rather than vote for Hillary, Roe is dead.
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bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Even if Jill and Susan dont see the difference.
The best option is the best choice, especially when it is the only option. Jill Stein is and always has been a joke and now choice is the punchline.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)December 2015 gala dinner with Putin:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna742696
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Stein's 2016 campaign was heavily promoted by RT. She hasn't spoken much about the RT dinner, but in an interview with NBC News last fall, she deflected questions about her appearance, instead chastising the U.S. media for not paying attention to her campaign while RT gave it a lot more attention.
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bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)Hekate
(90,686 posts)
to know their places. But by golly, we should have stayed in Afghanistan to protect their women and girls.
Personally, I just want to scream and scream and scream. Tears are starting to leak.
Thank you for all the work you do and have done, LMPV. Gotta go.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)we wanted, A or B. Not about whether to keep or destroy our liberal democracy and along with that whether we should have any rights to healthcare itself. I'm sure we were lead to believe that.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #7)
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Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)But her emails were so fucking important and all...I mean abortion rights... who cares am I right...
We have limited control...but we could have stopped the court-packing had Hillary won the election. Now we are in trouble in terms of abortion rights, civil rights, and of course voting rights. We have a Republic that is hanging on by a thread.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Democrats didn't spend time and energy electing Biden and a Democratic majority in both the House and Senate for nothing.
The handful of holdouts just need the political will to do it, and you know whom I'm talking about. It would be a better use of time and energy directing your anger towards that crowd now instead of licking wounds over Jill Stein.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)THEN we'll get something done!!!!111111!1!!!!1!!
Elessar Zappa
(13,991 posts)the 3 justices that were appointed during Trumps tenure.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)Elessar Zappa
(13,991 posts)We lost 3 justices to the conservatives. Some so-called progressives throwing a fit in 2016 is the reason why we are where we are today.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,667 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)dalton99a
(81,486 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)And far too many people ignored it
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Nothing unique about 2016.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)Link to tweet
You may argue back and forth whether fair warning is ever fair play. But theres no disputing the fact that Clintons red alert came in plenty of time for voters caring about womens rights to plan how to deal with Trump on Election Day. Did it fall on deaf ears?
Clinton handily won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college. Too many voters, in states where they were needed, failed to turn out or skipped her name on the ballot. The whys of it are being debated to this day. The fact is that some voters might have heard what she said was at stake but still chose to follow the alluring sounds of Trumps snake-oil campaign.
Had truth won out in 2016, this dark day for womens rights could have been avoided.
But, perhaps, some consolation might come with the thought that Texass dreadful law might serve to mobilize womens health voters across the entire gender spectrum to do what apparently too many failed to do five years ago: flock to the polls to protect reproductive freedom like theres no tomorrow. There wasnt one for candidate Clinton five years ago. There should be plenty of tomorrows, however, for the cause of reproductive rights and justice if voters, next time around, respond as they should have when Hillary Clinton first sounded the alarm.
Now, theres no excuse.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)Right now we are seeing history being repeated in California. There are a good number of people who seem to want Newsome to be recalled and Larry Elder become governor to help facilitate the "Revolution."
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