Fk You Susan Sarandon. You advocated for this shit.

[Budi]

To those who chose the Pussy Grabber & the author of "Rape Fantasies", this is for you tonight.
As you all prepare your Women's Rights campaign speeches for the drueling Media & beat your chests & clutch your pearls in disbelief of the Texas horror show now given free reign to be enacted in other States, & as you all see a new opportunity to be the championing advocates for fundrasing & marches & Media time promoting how much you all really suddenly give a shit, This Nightmare Was Your Undoing, for sheer lack of forsight as you all posed for a perfect camera shot & social media 'likes' while completely missing the gravity of what lied ahead. You selfish fking vapid naieve nobodies.

The really pissy thing here is that the generations it took to gain this sacred right of a woman & her Dr to choose her path, was so callously & quickly tossed away by a generation whose gratitude for what was granted them by those hard fights before they were born, was completly taken for granted. You fking gave it away.

The mantel of that hard fought priveledge was handed down to you, to hold dear & preserve for those generations that follow you.

What did you do with that!??
This loss to women's rights is one that will not easily be reclaimed.

This is yours to now explain to the girls & women who follow you, why you gave that mantel away, why you failed to realize the critical urgency to see that a Supreme Court would be always maintained in favor of a woman's right to choose.
And most of all why you chose the Pussy Grabber & the author of "Rape Fantasies", over the woman who would have kept that mantel sacred to every female in this country.

I personally hold you all responsible for this loss.
There is nothing you will ever do & no words you ever say that will give cause to believing that you are even capable of serving anyone but your own selfish interests for money & fame.
*************

HERE.
From Campaign 2016, since you all apparently never took it serious back in 2016.

Hillary Clinton: "Here's what I want in the Supreme Court"
WED, OCT 19 2016

Hillary Clinton on Wednesday described her goals for Supreme Court appointments, highlighting how her potential administration would differ from Donald Trump's.

Clinton said she wanted justices who would defend women's rights, back LGBT rights, support Roe v. Wade and reverse the Citizens United decision and its ability to funnel dark money into elections. Clinton said she wanted a court to "stand on the side of the people"
************

HERE IT IS. Read the text. Watch the video. When you ever vin your lifetime stand as tall & brave & wise as She did, then you will have achieved nirvana.
You plain old took it all for granted in your uber priviledged worlds & ignored the most critical moment since Roe v Wade, 1973.

Full Text:
https://www.un.org/esa/gopher-data/conf/fwcw/conf/gov/950905175653.txt

FIRST LADY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
REMARKS FOR THE UNITED NATIONS FOURTH WORLD CONFERENCE ON WOMEN

BEIJING, CHINA
SEPTEMBER 5, 1995

[IcyPeas]

1. Hear hear!

Hillary was right about everything.

[lapfog_1]

2. Righteous rant

but we purged the Hillary Haters here quite a while ago.

At least most of them.

Hillary was never my favorite candidate but I donated a lot of money to her campaign and voted for her (and got my just turned 18 year old niece to vote for her too).

I expect a lot more states where repukes control the legislative chamber and the governorship will be passing similar laws like the Texiban did.

Sue your relatives and neighbors for fun and profit and to cause them untold misery. What they have done is evil beyond belief.

[Demsrule86]

18. I would remind you that most 'Hillary Haters' chose to leave and join a different website.

On the other hand, I can attest to the fact that many Hillary supporters were purged during this time. It was a dark time. I am so thankful that DU now has rules in place that prevent this sort of thing.

[NurseJackie]

39. Not all. Many still lurk and read here.

This is an important message and reminder that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

[Demsrule86]

43. You are correct. Thanks.

[CrackityJones75]

64. Yep seeing them here today!

[sheshe2]

92. If you read that site...

If you read that site back then it was clear that they came back to disrupt. They bragged about it. It was a site that embraced the C word when talking about Hill. However Miriim had a rule, never ever call someone on that site that word, just Hill or one of us.

Yes, they are still here.

[betsuni]

3. But she got paid to give a speech at Goldman Sachs.

We were told: "It must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech which you would want to share with the American people. It must be Shakespearean!" "Paid speech" became code for corrupt. Fucking idiots. I still can't believe how fucking stupid all those lies about Hillary were. For what? The revolution? WHAT REVOLUTION.

[Budi]

4. And fk you Greenspan, & every Media host that ignored the gravity of what was truly at stake.

They own this horrific blow to women & girls rights as well.

Every damned one of them.

[Hortensis]

5. And all the other "Sarandons" -- capable of understanding what they did

or not. And I'm sure some are not.

[Budi]

6. Oh be sure the sarandons are already finding their newborn outrage, booking spots on MSM & prepping

...prepping their extreme concern in mass fundraising emails, podcasts & speeches for the next Woman's Rights rally.

Opportunists are readying their performance artistry.

[Hortensis]

8. Yes, well, not all the malwired brains are on the right by any means.

Or scoundrels.

Hopefully those who just trusted people who steered them wrong have been realizing it for some time.

[betsuni]

10. Your last sentence. I'm happy those who steered them wrong aren't so popular now.

It's frustrating when you see a phony and you have proof they're a phony but nobody in the thrall of the utopian savior will listen.

[Hortensis]

45. Yes. Significant numbers have learned more since 2016.

Some of those frustrating people, though, are just hard wired to suspicion and hostility toward Democrats and "the establishment." They can't change and they mostly promise to vote against Democrats every election, so the better they're understood, and what LW candidates are saying to draw them, the better.

Reminds me of how when candidate Pat Buchanan's popularity with aggressive white male racists became known it put an end to both his political career and his career as an MSNBC regular. Until then, most of the daytime lineup offered him to their viewers as a highly respected conservative intellectual with a racism and misogyny so understated and gentlemanly (on their shows) that it mostly flew under the radar.

Needless to say, it wasn't MSNBC that outed The Real Pat Buchanan. The kind of admirers his presidential candidacy drew to events covered by the press did.

[NurseJackie]

41. Sarandon, Moore, Turner, West, Stein and any other politician...

... who could not support Hillary. They know who they are... and so do I.

[betsuni]

57. People like Micheal Moore, Cenk Unger and politicians demonized Hillary to rile up their

audiences until they were well trained to harass anyone who supported Satan Hillary, then turned around a couple months before the election and told their supporters to vote for her. It doesn't work that way! You told them she was corrupt and evil. They believed you. Doesn't work to suddenly say, just kidding, that was populist bullshit and lies so I could be popular.

Moore did at least try a little by going to Trumpland. The worst ones made sure their weak message to vote for Hillary was vague and passive-aggressive. They knew exactly what they were doing. Ironically, their supporters were the ones calling Hillary a weathervane. At least the Stein idiots were consistent.

[Budi]

7. "There is now officially a public 25k dollar bounty on any females head in TX"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215806967

Cheezoholic

0. There is now officially a public 25k dollar bounty on any females head in TX whom
even openly speaks about, let alone tries to get an abortion after 6 weeks...more

[Budi]

9. "Women of means and mistresses of men of means will ALWAYS have access"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215806923

tenderfoot
Women of means and mistresses of men of means will ALWAYS have access to safe abortions.

[bottomofthehill]

11. Pretty sure Hillary would not have put this bunch on the court

But there is no difference

Sarcasm thingy added

[JohnSJ]

12. What those scum did in 2016 by encouraging people not to vote for Hillary own this, and should

not be ever given a seat at the table, not only for suppression of a woman’s right to choose, but for voting rights, civil rights, etc.

It didn’t take much either. In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, and in those critical swing states, Jill Stein received 1% of the vote

Make no mistake about it, Turner, Brianna Joy Gray, and other supposed progressives followed the same path of Sarandon, and are equally culpable

The damage they did make it very unlikely it will be undone in the foreseeable future

They have effectively spit on those who fought and even gave their lives in some instances for those who fought for voters rights and civil rights

[brer cat]

22. +1 nt

[certainot]

13. it wasn't sarandon, or nader. it was and still is the biggest political mistake in history - the

the incredible collective stupidity of ignoring the rw talk radio monopoly for 30 years and counting.

not individuals, but the organizations and dem party leadership that all probably live in cities and have no clue and now blame facebook, etc. the republican party is falling apart because their one true leader the last 30 years, who told millions most of that time that smoking doesn't cause cancer, just died of it.

for most of that time limbaugh also lied about and attacked the clintons and for more than a decade was used by putin and dwas hte primary reason people like bush and trump were able to get anywhere near the white house.

it's a good rant but the it's useless. we let 1500 radio stations lie about hilllary and many more good democrats and we let limbaugh calll christine "balsey" ford a liar for three weeks to enable the motherfucking republicans put that shit on the supremes, like we let him lie about anita hill many years before.

if democrats want to end this crap they can take advantage of limbaugh's croaking and at least get those 1000s of university students at 87+ universities to stop letting their unis support 260+ xlimbaugh stations without protest or complaint

[betsuni]

14. How are Democrats supposed to stop right wing radio?

Democrats "let" them? So Democrats have enormous power and money but they "let" Republicans do whatever they want?

[certainot]

15. we give them a free speech free ride. every advertiser, uni and pro sports team that uses rw radio

shares responsibility.

it is pitiful how much political analysis and finger pointing goes on by mostly city dwellers who never even minutely factor the single biggest player in this disaster.

and look at texas - in texas 5 major universities support 16 xlimbaugh stations by broadcasting sports on them - and probably a lot more schools and rw stations in texas are doing same - TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1

students pissed off at this can blame their own schools for supporting stations that
- elect republicans
- put unqualified supremes on the court
- have attacked roe v wade for 30 years
- deny global warming and covid
- sell voter suppression legislation
- push to defund public ed and stop student loan reform
-excuse racism and attack kneeling athletes
- and so on

here's dessantis and floriduh - FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2

how fucking stupid is it that we let these universities do this shit without complaint - when one school merely announces it will look for apolitical alternatives advertisers will head for the hills, and other schools will follow.

the ad industry will have to break up the monopoly if it starts seeing universities and advertisers deserting rw radio, and rw radio is republicans only unique advantage

[Demsrule86]

17. And I would add, none of what your wrote has anything to do with 2016. Helping to elect

Trump is the worst thing that the 'but her email' crowd did. And I don't know how we come back from this. It will likely take decades...assuming our Republic survives.

[certainot]

31. trump was the talk radio president, limbaugh with better hair and a public presence. in 2014

sam nunberg says trump had him listen to and write notes on 1000s of hours of talk radio. since limbaugh was already available in transcript and trump was dining and playing golf wiith him that was likely about those swing states - the same ones the russians that mueller indicted visited? that's probably what the russian trolls based their ops on. why would they hire a bunch of social media wizs just to make things up and hope they stick? most of that hilllary stuff was based on limbaugh's bullshit going back 25 years. but you know what? even though nunbergs beenn in MSNBC and CNN as a trump expert a few dozen times, at least, i don't think he's ever been asked about that.

and a lot of that hilllary crap so common on the radio for 2 decades was getting tossed around here too.

everything the republican party is today flew out of limbaugh's ass, and people who turned off the music and sampled the RW talk radio once in a while would recognize it

[radicalleft]

44. OMG! Thank you!

I told my dad that I believed TFG simply repeated whatever RW trope was out their as red meat to the base...IOW, not a single original thought ever came from him.

[betsuni]

19. What does "the free speech free ride" mean?

"City dwellers" -- elites? Coastal elites? The fact that there's an education divide but not an economic divide?

[certainot]

30. free speech free ride means ignoring a few hundred liars on 1500 radio stations as they repeat

the same lies over and over, without correction or challenge because generally a 95% protected monopoly is assumed to be part of the free speech spectrum and can be ignored - "it's just a guy expressing himself on the radio and you don't have to listen" and "there are plenty of other stations on the radio that people can listen to" etc

[certainot]

32. PS 'city dwellers' - in most parts of the US there are no free easy alts for politics while driving

or working other than RW talk radio. that's just the way it is in most of rural america and a big part of why rw radio is used to fight off net neutrality and universal broadband - whatever their excuse. most parts away from big cities those may be the only clear signals for news, current events, emergency etc. i'lll bet those stations will be a priority in louisiana and mississippi - where they will be used to reprise covid denial and blame any glitches or failures or slowdowns in repair on Dem politicians and leaders - like they did with so successfully after katrina

most party and media and prog organization leaders live in cities and will listen to music or read and write and their RW media sampling is probably largely limited to fox - which is the cartoon cliff notes for rw radio. and they blame facebook, another decoy.

university towns may be liberal outliers. in cities where there are more easy sources of information though, there may still be half a dozen redundant RW radio stations but NO liberal talk stations.

[TexasTowelie]

87. Texas Christian University and Baylor University are private religious-affiliated universities.

They can spend their money as they see fit and I doubt that you will find many students that are going to lead a movement against them. I also doubt that you will find a large number of students at either Texas Tech or Texas A&M that are vehemently opposed to how their universities spend their advertising budget seeing that they are regarded as conservative institutions.

I believe that the students will be courteous and listen to you, but do you realistically expect that these students to jeopardize scholarships and possibly disenrolled for the cause you mention?

[certainot]

91. it's tougher in texas and any of them could start the ball rolling

this is a discussion that needs to be had in every one of those universities. are the religious ones still okay with denying global warming? the racism and misogyny? the lies? the COVID denial? all those unis have mission statements antithetical to that lying

any protest along those lines either by students or community, or even as a debate team topic, would scare advertisers. few of those stations could survive if the only advertisers on them were owned by trumpers - and those should be the only ones supporting those stations- for the others it's convenience, price, lack of choice.

if one school merely begins a public discussion about maybe looking for alternatives other schools will too. advertisers will start to get worried about blowback and ask ad agencies about alternatives. after two or three unis around the country join in it will start a real exodus. the ad industry will have to stop it to prevent widespread loss of advertisers from the radio medium - by forcing station owners to start offering balance or other programming all together.

lies about issues like global warming and COVID are not just political opinion on stations licensed to operate in the public interest, no matter how conservative the state or the university. let it go to the supreme court - the publicity will destroy the radio ad industry

[Demsrule86]

16. You are absolutely wrong...those who claim to be on our side did this...and it was the same sort

who gave us Bush II and endless war in 2000. Sarandon in fact was complicit in both and I will never forget nor forget what these selfish people did...with so-called friends like them who needs enemies...right?

[LizBeth]

26. Not a single true progressive who cares about women/girl would have voted anything but Dem.

But little p progressive did not care. Yes it was these light weights that get to own it, but I did not see one name that gets big highlights owning it.

[mcar]

20. The Supreme Court would look far different today

if not for those who, in 2016, didn't think the court was important and decided to vote their "conscience."

I applaud your OP.

[House of Roberts]

27. It would be a 4-3 Republican majority.

Unless McConnell got to pick the new justices.

Do you think any of a President Hillary's nominees would get through confirmation?

[StevieM]

46. Had Hillary won she probably would have carried in a Democratic majority to the Senate. (eom)

[House of Roberts]

52. They call that assuming facts not in evidence on all the lawyer shows.

People smarter than me would say 'you can't prove a counter-factual'.

Scalia's seat was already empty, and RBG would have passed anyway, so we know there would be two vacancies.

In spite of the 'Blue Wave' of 2018 in the House, we lost two seats in the Senate. Who knows if we could have even took the House with a Dem in the Presidency in the 2018 midterms. Historical precedent says we wouldn't have, and also that we shouldn't keep the House in 2022. Right now I don't like the odds.

[Demsrule86]

66. Yes...but not matter what Trump would have gotten none.

[Johnny2X2X]

21. McConnell stole a seat from Obama and the Dems did nothing

The Dems in the Senate should have shut the entire country the hell down, but the Dems were complacent because they thought Hillary would win.

And now if the Reps get the Senate again they have a precedent and will not allow a Dem to pick a justice again.

[Doremus]

33. This.

A fact so convenient to forget.

[Demsrule86]

67. McConnell stole a seat but it is the Democrats fault...no it isn't. What you fail to understand

without a Senate majority, there was nothing we could do. 'Shut the country down', how exactly. And what makes you think the GOP doesn't enjoy having the country shut down? How many times did they shut down the government during Obama's tenure?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. Control of the SCOTUS was on theballot but some ignored this fact

Link to tweet

[NurseJackie]

42. That woman is treacherous. Beneath contempt. I can't stand her.

[oasis]

58. "You can't blackmail us with SCOTUS into voting for Hillary".

I've heard and read that so many times during the 2016 election period. Purist numbskulls.

[Cha]

75. It was FOR America & the Planet..

they never understood that.

Only thinking about themselves.

[oasis]

90. The same so-called, "very smart" people, lack the ability to

see the bigger picture. I'll never trust those types holding key leadership positions in the Democratic Party.

[Cha]

72. Once again proving she knows

fuck all about anything.

[louslobbs]

24. This!

[LizBeth]

25. I agree.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

28. The Sarandon Court strikes again.

Link to tweet

[Budi]

29. The Sarandon Court

✔ROE v WADE

✔EVICTION

[BlueLucy]

34. It's a predictable day.

Link to tweet

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[Budi]

37. K & R Thank You! I see BriJoy has been busy deleting HRC posts

Since the shit hit the fan in Tx.

Ex Stein campaign staffer. Figures.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

35. Hey, hats off to Susan Sarandon for helping to both get us into Afghanistan and out of Roe v. Wade.

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

36. +1

[betsuni]

38. When a political activist always ends up as an activist for the worst case scenario.

[Budi]

40. Enjoy your hat Susan!! Has the country 'exploded' enough to satisfy your need for attention yet?

Nope. Judging by the SC today, It sure wasn't Trump & Clinton, & Repubs & Dems who were all the saaame.

Score TWO for the multimillionare corp owned (loreal, fresh face) "advocate" 🙄

Afghanistan & Roe v Wade 20 years apart.
Wear that proud badge on your hat Susan!!

[StevieM]

47. I don't like Susan Sarandon but 2016 was all about James Comey.

He dominated the election from start to finish.

[Budi]

49. Oh no. It was Sarandon from the primaries thru to the last appearance on Late night tv.

Not excusing Comey at all, that was a damned big deal.

But Sarandon was a vile hate driven force against HRC & every Democrat that exists, from beginning to end & still to this day 5 yrs later.

She & Jill Stein's ex staffers, Bri Joy & Sirota, Bowl of shit Nina Turner, & the other end of the horseshoe.

Like Sarandon did with Nader against Gore, she did with Stein against HRC.

Yes, she helped us get into Afghanistan & out of Roe v Wade.

That's her real pathetic legacy to America.

[Nixie]

56. +1

So much for an all-or-nothing bogus revolution. A bunch of phony crap was bull horned everywhere, but nothing of actual realistic consequences like this. So disgusting.

[Demsrule86]

69. Nope, even with Comey the votes taken away from Hillary by Stein were sufficient for her to win...

Hillary to have won. And consider that some who listened to Hillary being attacked day after day by the right and the left(Greens) actually voted for Trump...so there were enough votes for us to win the rustbelt and the election.

[ismnotwasm]

48. K&R

[Volaris]

50. .. why you gave that mantle away.. ..

'Because her emails.'

I will never forgive these people.

[Budi]

51. They didn't need no mantle of the Establishment Dems anymore. They were the revoluuushun!!

Selfish Assholes.
They denied every woman & girl of the future a right to equality.

Then had audacity of priviledge to demand their choice of a high dollar college loan be wiped out like they were asking dad for a new cell phone & a high end car & credit card line.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

53. Blame Susan Sarandon when your reproductive rights get taken away

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

54. Elections matter. Every single one of them

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

55. Kick

[betsuni]

59. Sarandon: "I don't vote with my vagina, this is bigger than that."

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[budkin]

60. She doesn't GAF

Scream at her all you want.

[LeftInTX]

65. Yep..I do blame Ralph Nadar for Florida in 2000

Stats are pretty solid...

Susan could have seen the impact in 2000, but she didn't care...
She wants "another party"...

Sarandon could care less about Texas

[budkin]

70. I voted for Nader in Texas because I was still naive AF

I would have voted Gore had I lived in Florida but even giving that guy a vote makes me sick now.

[Kaleva]

61. A slim majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016

Nationally, Trump got 52% of the white female vote.

Below are the battleground states identified as such by Ballotpedia which Hillary lost

In MI, Trump got 51% of the white female vote compared to 43% for Hillary

In PA, Trump got 50% of the white female vote compared to 47% for Hillary

In FL, Trump got 60% of the white female vote compared to 36% for Hillary

IN NC, Trump got 60% of the white female vote compared to 37% for Hillary

In AZ, Trump got 51% of the white female vote compared to 44% for Hillary

IN OH, Trump got 56% of the white female vote compared to 39% for Hillary

In Iowa and Wisconsin, Hillary got a plurality of the the white female vote (49% in both states) but not a majority.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/national/president

[Voltaire2]

62. wow I didn't know a minor hollywood celebrity had such a powerful affect on white women

across the country. Amazing.

[Kaleva]

63. Apparently she has mind control over millions of white women!

[Carlitos Brigante]

68. Hadn't seen those numbers broken down like that before. That's super gross. They can all fuck off.nt

[lapucelle]

86. Data concerning general election percentages are more helpful when actual numbers are attached.

Making Sense of the 2016 Elections

https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/making-sense-of-the-2016-elections/book256733#description

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To the extent that Sarandon, Grey, Sirota and Turner had influence over voters during the 2016 general election campaign, they should have wielded it more wisely.

Link to tweet

[Kaleva]

95. And the data shows that a majority of white women nationwide voted for Trump

And that vote was crucial for Trump's victories in key battleground states.

[lapucelle]

97. Percentages reveal a partial picture, but there's something extremely telling

about concrete numbers.

Link to tweet

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There's another thread today seeking to excuse Jill Stein and Susan Sarandon (two hyper-privileged white women) for their part in getting Trump elected, instead blaming what the OP calls "Trump switcher" voters. It is interesting, though, that Professor Schaffner did note a racial component in his initial analysis of the "Trump switcher" (another poster's term) voter data.

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To the extent that Sarandon, Grey, Turner, Sirota, and Stein tipped the scales with their toxic "lesser of two evils" narrative, they need to take responsibility and apologize.

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And 2016 was the second time for the privileged Ms Sarandon. She pulled the same stunt in 2000 where she managed to convince an earlier segment of purists to buy her script that environmental activist / Nobel Peace Prize laureate Al Gore was the "lesser of two evils".

Susan Sarandon is an unmitigated ass who deserves to be called out loudly and frequently.

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[Kaleva]

98. No R could win the WH if a bare majority of white women in battleground states voted D instead of R

[lapucelle]

99. That's not necessarily true. It would depend what group the "bare majority"

is based on, the number of people who comprise that group, and the total number of voters.

At any rate, the same could probably be said of white men.

[Kaleva]

100. In WI, 2,976,150 people voted in 2016

According to CNN exit polls, 45% of those voters were white females of which Hillary got 49%. Had Hillary gotten 51% of the white female vote , she would have won the state.

Trump had won the state by 22,648 votes.

2% of the white female vote is 26,785.

Jill Stein, according to the CNN exit poll, got 1% of the white female vote. Had they voted for Hillary instead, she would still have lost WI.

[lapucelle]

103. I'm not sure how any of this supports whatever it is you are trying to prove.

Any gendered argument based on the pseudo-mathematical analysis of partial data concerning a subset (that also seeks to erase the responsibility of a subset of that subset) is ... interesting, at best.

However, the fact remains (based on verified, concrete, actual votes counted) that the certified data in three key battleground states show that either Jill Stein voters alone or "Trump switcher" voters alone gave Donald Trump his margin of victory, delivering to him the White House and three Supreme Court appointments.

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As for the "methodology" leading to an assertion concerning white, female, Jill Stein spoilers, it seems to be based on an exit poll that fails to report its margin of error, simple arithmetic, and many, many assumptions rather than any standard procedure or formula employed by data scientists.

Data analysis is complex and best left to experts.

https://dataverse.harvard.edu/file.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/GDF6Z0/RK0ONG&version=4.0

[LetMyPeopleVote]

105. Great post

Thank you

[progressoid]

71. SARAAANDOONN!!!

[Cha]

73. Susan Sarandon is a Big Stupid Liar! Spewing

"Hillary was More Dangerous than trump.." she had too many suckers that believed her.. so they voted for Stein's LIES in Swing Statee.

Link to tweet

[Budi]

76. That "More Dangerous Than Trump" slogan began with the bernie or busters

Sarandon had her talking point early on & never let up driving it home via her brilliant celebrity.

I somehow get an eerie Nina Turner/Jill Stein vibe reading this blast from the past.
She was all up in the DNC's shit back then too.
Ugh!

From Eriic Boehlert:

Link to tweet

[Cha]

80. Stupid POS! They the Shit better NOT

be Whining about SCOTUS NOW!

Thank GOODNESS we HAVE President Biden NOW!!!

[Budi]

82. Oh they're whining alright. But it's somebody else they're defecting the blame on.

It's like 2016 never happened & it was really Trump's fault ...& Manchin & Sinema too!

And none will even whisper HER name.
I see tgey've moved beyond owning a role & are now back to making demands, fundraising, speeches, & appearances telling us all how to fix this dreadful mess.

Considering their record so far, I have zero faith in their ability to govern us into or out of any situation.
They got Money & Media. That's it.

[orleans]

74. i just looked at suzie's twitter

she retweeted an article by david sirota (who i only remember from being a regular guest on al franken's air america show).

it was an interesting read.

she's still on the hook in my mind (and she's not alone)

her back-peddling retweets of things that cut her slack doesn't excuse her imo

[Budi]

77. Sirota's a Steiner. Along with Bri Joy Grey. Think he's some editor at Jacobin now 🙄

He was was with Greenwald & Guardian when shit went down with Assange & DNC leaks.
Even Greenwald hates him anymore.
Think he had a short stint with Intercept also.


He's an untrusworthy propagandist against the Democratic Party & sleazy a player as they get.
re: Tara Rede attempt to scandalize Biden.

He's a regular on Sarandon's twitter. With Nina Turner & Bri Joy Grey etc.

[orleans]

78. thanks for the lowdown.

(i don't know/remember who tara is & i don't recall hearing of bri either)

[Budi]

79. Not even worth your time to know more about them

You'll find them all hanging out on Sarandon's twitter.
Remnants of Stein & the now defunct Red Rose bros.

[orleans]

83. ok. (lol--like i know who the red rose brothers are!) nt

[Budi]

84. Yup. That's Sirota! 🥂

[lapucelle]

89. David Sirota needs to take responsibility and apologize.

Here's what he was up to the day before the 2016 general election.

[Cha]

81. Sounds like a fucking

rats' nest.

[Budi]

85. Yup. Its Susan's home for old bros.

Still yelling into a void, old faded memes from down memory lane when they were once 'somebody' & somebody really 'liked' them.

[Cha]

93. And somebody.. m$$$$$$m wanted

them to RF America.

[The Polack MSgt]

88. +++ Absolutely. K&R

[LetMyPeopleVote]

94. Anyone who encouraged you to vote 3rd party instead of for the Dem is RESPONSIBLE for this mess!

Link to tweet

[Budi]

96. K & R & Thank You.

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They won't even whisper her name today.
What a vast far-reaching well-moneyed force it took to deny HRC. And only in small numbers in the last days of the electorate.
Jill Stein & Sarandon did their job.

FULL CIRCLE:
Unfortunately, the future of every woman & young girl in America were never a thought to any of them.
And here we are. Roe v Wade 1973-2021

Says all we need to know about them all.
*************
The talking points & media coordination were in play early on. "They're both the same" / "Hillary is more dangerous than Trump", they cried.

Link to tweet

Just to whom was HRC more dangerous than Trump,? I'd like that answered, still.


When Tad DeVine became the media manager back in 2014, setting up a media co, & began prepping way back in 2006 while he was still involved with Manafort in Putin's dirty Ukraine election selection, the game to seat Trump was already well in play.
They needed someone to run oppo in the D Party.


Art imitates life :
The Deal of a Lifetime..they said

[Kaleva]

101. Interestingly, Biden did better with white male and female voters in MI then Hillary did

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/michigan/president

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/michigan

[betsuni]

102. Biden didn't have email-scandal-liar-corrupt only coverage by the press/social media or

a last-minute Comey letter. Voters in swing states in the last week before the election swung heavily for Trump. Hillary had been ahead by three points in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania until after the Comey letter. Press reported investigation was re-opened.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

104. Opinion: Hillary Clinton warned us this day would come

Link to tweet

The results are in. Of the five Supreme Court justices who allowed Texas to implement the strictest abortion ban in the nation, three — Neil M. Gorsuch in 2017, Brett M. Kavanaugh in 2018 and Amy Coney Barrett in 2020 — were appointed by President Trump.

You may argue back and forth whether fair warning is ever fair play. But there’s no disputing the fact that Clinton’s red alert came in plenty of time for voters caring about women’s rights to plan how to deal with Trump on Election Day. Did it fall on deaf ears?

Clinton handily won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college. Too many voters, in states where they were needed, failed to turn out or skipped her name on the ballot. The whys of it are being debated to this day. The fact is that some voters might have heard what she said was at stake but still chose to follow the alluring sounds of Trump’s snake-oil campaign.

Had truth won out in 2016, this dark day for women’s rights could have been avoided.

But, perhaps, some consolation might come with the thought that Texas’s dreadful law might serve to mobilize women’s health voters — across the entire gender spectrum — to do what apparently too many failed to do five years ago: flock to the polls to protect reproductive freedom like there’s no tomorrow. There wasn’t one for candidate Clinton five years ago. There should be plenty of tomorrows, however, for the cause of reproductive rights and justice — if voters, next time around, respond as they should have when Hillary Clinton first sounded the alarm.

Now, there’s no excuse.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

106. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it

Right now we are seeing history being repeated in California. There are a good number of people who seem to want Newsome to be recalled and Larry Elder become governor to help facilitate the "Revolution."

Link to tweet

[Hortensis]

107. Yes. 2016 is still happening everywhere else also.

Let's hope no one this time thinks turning California over to the Republicans is the best path to universal healthcare.

No more, I mean, than the usual, hapless 5% who really think the FDA is a plot by Big Pharm, which is a plot by you-know-who behind a malevolent global conspiracy. Bless their hearts.

[Budi]

108. 5/26/1994 US President Bill Clinton signed the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act in to law

https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/freedom-access-clinic-entrances-act-1994

Here's the History of The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, signed into law by President Bill Clinton, May 26, 1994.

Citations, Legislature record & vote included at link.

To read the history of how many years, how dangerous the fight, and the amount of committment & months, days, hours & years, & both good & united Men & Women it took to protect the rights of women, It Is Appalling To See How Carelessly & Often Intentionally It Was All Dismissed In 2016.

It Makes Me Sick To Hear Anyone Now Excusing Those Who Had A Part In Bringing About The Supreme Court We Have Today.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215827677