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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAll right, Democrats. Are you awake NOW???
Roe v Wade is OVER in Texas. And Texas is the test case. The experiment by the GOP nuts to see how far they can get. And they are getting too far
. Where exactly is next? Because they arent going to stop with Texas.
Weve got to get our shit together before 2022. Weve got to decide if this democracy lives or dies. Its that simple.
Weve got to get past our own petty differences, and confront an enemy that would kill us given the chance - whether via COVID, dangerous pregnancies, school shootings, to name a few.
Can we get our shit together? Or are we fucked? Tell me now, because Im not fighting MY ass off another term if its not going to be worth something. Im still in disbelief about Al and Hillary. Why do we stand for such ridiculousness??? The GOP is now OPENLY mocking the right to vote.
Regardless of your issue - whether race equality, or gender equality, a womans right to choose, voting rights, Medicare for all - whatever - is closest to your heart - I dont care. All are good issues to be concerned about. But weve got to help the whole cause. Vote together!!! Stand TOGETHER. Its us versus THEM. And its not funny any more. Its deadly serious. They GOP means to do away with us.
Do we fight?
Organize!! Organize!!! Organize!!!
Irish_Dem
(46,772 posts)The GOP moral rot is much more widespread and deep than we could ever imagine.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)We arent as evil as they are, so we have conned ourselves in to thinking that, at some point, theyd grow a conscience. When things got THAT bad.
Well, we have arrived at THAT bad and the GOP isnt stopping. We have got to meet them toe to toe. On their crappy level. As much as we despise it, we cannot go high and let them keep on winning.
Irish_Dem
(46,772 posts)Their base will kill themselves and their children fueled by propaganda and racism.
The base is acting out in aggressive and dangerous ways.
I think we have to fight hard, and outsmart them. It is time for a team of political, societal, psychological experts to advise us on how to proceed.
RussBLib
(9,006 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:36 PM - Edit history (1)
but they do seem to be under some kind of spell, not that I believe in supernatural shit.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)StarryNite
(9,442 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)They are fixing it where votes wont matter.
Irish_Dem
(46,772 posts)They just cheat to win.
Irish_Dem
(46,772 posts)I agree Magats act like a transfixed cult.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Republican Party is the official voice of fascism. They have pursued fascist tactics for over forty years to establish an authoritarian presidency. It is the the sole goal of the Federalist Society that has taken over the courts. It is their stated intent, not something imagined by its critics, but based on a ridiculous claim that it is authorized in the Second Article of the Constitution which extends the presidents authority to all department of the federal government. If implemented it would created a presidency like those in China and Russia. It would make the separation of powers that was the key principle upon which our government was formed totally void. This what has already happened in Georgia in which the legislature, in control of the Republicans now has the power to nullify elections if they don't like the result and declare the loser as the winner. Welcome to 1984. This will become the law in every Republican dominated state.
It clock is already striking 11:00. It may indeed already be too late. Good luck folks; I will soon be history and you can wallow in the nightmare of your own creation.
Irish_Dem
(46,772 posts)China has started lightening up on its people and giving them some freedom and a higher standard of living.
The Taliban will probably start doing the same.
While the US is heading for a more ruthless autocratic country with only crumbs to the people.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)control in every election cycle in the future.
Certain "Democrats" are OK with that also.
Some will say this has nothing to do with the TX abortion law, but they are wrong. They're either ignorant or complicit. This event is just one of many things that should warn us what republicons intend to do.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)This has everything to do with the GOP being emboldened by their wins in Texas and taking that crappy assed strategy to other states!!!
The GOP doesnt even hide its intentions any more. And yet they get away with it.
Time to fight back. If not now, WHEN???!!!
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)Are you unaware of the urgency, and what will happen if S1 never passes? Ensuring a republiqon return to control should not ever be anything any democrat ever helps happen. It should be opposed in any way possible by every single liberal, and every single Democrat whether elected or not.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)have heard there are other Democrats who simply don't want to see the filibuster go. It may be because we are a breath away from losing the House and Senate in 2022. There is no point in attacking any Democrat at this point...when we have a 50 50 majority.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)anyone to help end democracy and usher in republiqon rule. There is no excuse, none whatsoever, for not making an exception for voting rights. It's also foolish to think that once republicons take power, and have elections rigged to never again lose power, that they will do anything other than rush to end the filibuster completely.
I don't believe in turning a blind eye to the actions of anyone, just because of party affiliation. Particularly when the future is riding on something that could and should have been taken care of by now.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)'I don't believe in turning a blind eye'...ah. You know that is the root of our problem and why we can't have nice things like great health care and better Medicare. It is also why our Republic is in danger. How about we vote blue no matter who and stop with the blind eye thing which has cost us everything.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)I don't need to be told not to vote for republicons. No matter how it's phrased. We all know to vote blue.
But that phrase is as grating and misleading as "defund the police". It implies that there will be lousy candidates and that we should just look the other way no matter how they might screw up. That attitude and demand creates "why bother" type voter apathy. We might have to put up with a Manchin kind of candidate because of the makeup of a state or district, but we should never settle for that for any other reason. Most places in the country, people who want a conservative candidate won't be voting for the Democrat anyway so we don't need to cater to their whims.
Nor should we ever have to keep silent when we disagree with a politician. Particularly one for whom we are demanded to vote, and did.
And the thing still not being acknowledged is the importance of the For the People Act. Without it, this is all moot as republicons will take control and undo everything we want.
sdfernando
(4,929 posts)I don't think it holds water because the minute the GOP controls the Senate again the 1st thing turtle man will do is get rid of the filibuster....bank on it 100000000%
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)I hope the filibuster disappears...maybe it will. If we lose the House and the Senate, we are fucked. I don't know that we will ever have another fair election. and I am sad to say this is of our own making. We hold our people to a higher 'standard' and what is the result? The criticism drives people away from our party and we lose elections which allow the GOP to further erode election fairness. After seeing how some went after Pres. Biden recently, I am not surprised we find ourselves in this situation.
calimary
(81,179 posts)We HAVE TO elect more Democrats - EVERYWHERE - next year.
And frankly, Im not optimistic about that, either. I expect a few Democrats might - repeat - MIGHT start waking up after all our rights are GONE and irretrievable. And theyll say what they always whine: we didnt have the votes
(even when they numerically did).
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Senate with more message voting...Pres. Obama was compared here to a used car salesman...then the big one...the but her message crowd refused to vote for Hillary in 16 ignoring the courts and opining that Trump wasn't that bad...my point is we gave away our power via party disloyalty...and it is easy to say we must vote them out.
But we have a gerrymander in most red states and courts that appear poised to allow multiple attacks on voters... so easier said than done. And what happened most recently here on DU with our own elected and in the media...a week long attack on President Biden...even elected officials got involved in expressing their disapproval on cable news...so I don't see how anything changes until Democrats vote blue no matter who...our Republic won't survive less.
calimary
(81,179 posts)Im in a deep blue mood today. What an awful day. I guess we women are expected to just shut our mouths and spread our legs.
Good grief I hate this day.
My heart breaks for any victim of rape or incest who gets knocked up because of that. In Texas, she has NO choice. I wonder if some sort of latter-day underground railroad is being set up to get around this HORRID new law.
And if we in other states contribute to it, are we then subject to lawsuits from anti-choice vigilantes looking for a free ten grand?
DemocraticPatriot
(4,336 posts)We are not under the jurisdiction of Texas law, if not residing within the state. Texas civil law cannot be enforced in any other state.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)The response to your post was over the top. It gets old, doesnt it?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)Stale and predictable. It's as if a certain group is just waiting to post that sort of thing. . . .
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I thought I was imagining things!!! LOL
ShazzieB
(16,348 posts)Please elaborate.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Fight fight fight.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)If its a Democratic principle, we fight together for it. No parsing!!! Stand together!!!
FM123
(10,053 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)House, Senate and presidency. Undermining radical grassroots organizing has consequences, and right now the Republicans are way better at mabilizing all levels of the ticket. Dems put all their eggs in the presidential basket in 2016 and 2020, and here we are.
FakeNoose
(32,613 posts)... and that's where this is happening.
We Democrats in the rest of the country need to be concerned, but we must support the Democrats who are in Texas. It's THEIR fight, and we need to make it OUR fight.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)For the party, focusing so hard on regaining the presidency took resources away from downticket races, effectively ceding them to Republicans.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)And I seriously doubt we could have turned Texas blue either.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)The problems with the OTHER courts is that the Dems failed to organize effectively downticket, and have been putting all their eggs in one basket.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)we didn't win. The but her email folks made sure of that. And now I don't even know how we fix this. We can send money but a gerrymander is in force...
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Yes!!! Help us Texans now so that when it IS your turn, we can help you!!!
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)devised so as to try to stop this. It will spread.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Do you know how many times Ive voted in a local election in Texas when the ONLY choice is a Republican? (And I skip the item then. Never vote for a Republican). There should never be a race where there is not a Democratic candidate. The National part of the party needs to get more involved in local elections. I think you even said this in another part of this thread - so Im not disagreeing with you. Just illustrating a point.
Democrats must get better at messaging.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)impossible for a Democrat to win...we need to go after them economically at the national level. Pressure companies like GM to leave, things like that. I love how folks think the reason we lose is that there are no Democrats to vote for in elections. Running for office is expensive and difficult. No one is going to run for an unattainable seat.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)You love how folks think the reason we lose is because that there are no Democrats to vote for???
I wasnt addressing the whole issue in my three sentence post. Of course we need to do better. But ultimately, Ive got to have a name to select on a ballot.
Thanks for the exchange. Have a great day!
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)That is not snark.
Lonestarblue
(9,959 posts)Like many districts in Texas, my district is so gerrymandered that unless many, many Republicans somehow grow a conscience and vote for the Democrat, there is no chance to win. And this is under the gerrymandering from the 2010 census. Once Republicans get through reconfiguring every district so as to ensure even more wins for them, very few Democrats will be able to win a House seat or a seat in the Texas legislature. Population wise, some estimates have Democrats at 51% of eligible voters, but we sure dont win 51% of the seats. Only part of that is voter turnout. Much of it is gerrymandered districts. Democrats only started winning a few more races in recent years because their districts changed as the suburbs of the big Democratic cities grew. The new gerrymandering will take care of those districts for Republicans.
Given that Republicans control the redistricting process, I dont know how we overcome the inability to elect Democrats to either Congress or the state house. I still think there is value, though, in having Democratic candidates in most races. It gives younger candidates experience and name recognition, and it forces Republicans to spend money defending a seat, especially in districts that arent overwhelmingly red. The people who can make a difference are the Independents, so they are the ones we need to win. The Trump voters are a lost cause in my opinion.
We badly need the Senate to pass the revised John Lewis Act, but it does no good to write or call my Senators. Neither Cruz nor Cornyn are ever going to vote for this bill. And without it, we truly face a Herculean task here in Texas and other states where Republicans can and will suppress the vote.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)rigged so we need to find other methods to fight this. I do not expect that Texans given the gerrymander situation can vote the GOP asses out. I suggest we try to win statewide races first...put our money there and add boycotts as well.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)is why we're here today. I am all for winning local elections. But you have to do both.
Our side has focused on federal elections over state & local for a long time, IMO. There was absolutely no excuse for losing all those state legislator seats & governorships during Obama's term. Is it always going to take a tyrant like Trump to get our side to turn out for the mid-terms like we did in 2018? If so, we're gonna lose our country.
Omnipresent
(5,704 posts)But how do we get those with short attention spans, to turn out every two years?
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Worth nothing, but mine.
Im not entirely sure that everyone here always votes for Democratic principles. I would hope thats true, but I see a lot of bickering over small things. I guess thats probably to be expected and even encouraged on a like minded message board, but who knows.
As to your question, my personal thought is that we need to get louder and do better messaging. Lets get the message out that COVID idiots who arent vaxxed are threatening the rest of us. Make it abhorrent that someone chooses not to get the vaccines. Ads everywhere!!! On Faux News! Billboards. Callers in to right wing radio stations. Weve got to all try to be Pete
you know how Buttegieg just puts down Faux when hes on and makes them look like fools? We need MORE of that!!!
Again - only useless opinion.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)vote for Democratic ideas and what I would think are the principles. Perhaps you could clarify this.
wnylib
(21,417 posts)Democratic party headquarters. Get lists of registered Dem voters to call and remind them of the importance of voting. If there are no local or state races in your area that need vote reminders, contact another state's Dem leadership and ask for lists to do phone calls. Be ready to listen and to discuss issues with them.
ON EDIT: Get some Dem friends to join you in making calls. If not in person, then e-mail lists to them to call.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)protests will work? I don't. I have no idea what we can do. I would also add while I love your post for the energy and the message, of course, there is not one practical suggestion in it. 2016 was always about the courts. Now we have no way to even protect the vote so we can vote out the bad guy's IE Republicans.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)You are citing reality. What you say is true. Thus the portion of my post about tell me now
Is there anything we can do? Or is it already too late. I dont know the answer. Im just not willing to give it away yet though.
We need leadership. And thats not a slight to Joe or Nancy or Kamala anyone else on the Democratic side. But we need more people like Stacy and Beto who get down in the trenches in my thinking. Ive lived in Texas my whole life. Its devastating to see these changes and to lose rights and remedies. I merely want everyone else to take note before its too late for all of us. The GOP will not stop at Texas.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)this very important job as a political goodie to be handed out to people we like or what have you...we need experienced operatives. That is my first observation. Secondly, I am hoping this will wake up women everywhere who will come out and vote and we need to organize that. We can win statewide...there is no gerrymander there...it won't be easy but it can be done. There were so many women in 16 who assured me that Roe was in no danger. I expect they will now have a different opinion...at least I hope so. If we overperform with women, we might even win some gerrymandered seats. It is going to be hard to take down the GOP at this point. I am not giving up. But I see no point in yelling or screaming, protesting etc. The battle will be won or lost at the ballot box.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)send...so do-over. I agree we need more leadership. But I disagree who...we need a Howard Dean or someone like him who has vast experience with elections. I like Beto and Stacy but neither won their races. We need all hands on deck...we need to target statewide races first particularly governors and US senators. The Roe thing will help...might even help with some red districts...one thing we have going for us is the burbs which are turning blue everywhere...they should be targeted to get the maximum votes for statewide races and districts should be evaluated and targeted. We need people to do mailings about this. We need money we need people to call...lots more I could add...but you get the drift going on MSNBC may or may not help if they present 'both sides. It probably won't. But Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram will help...we need all hands on deck. I don't see protests as being worthwhile and no matter how much we shout the GOP doesn't care. We are beyond that now.
nolabear
(41,956 posts)Donate. Harangue the media. Create art. Teach your children about birth control and human rights. Move festivals and events. Tax the churches. FIGHT!
Not taking action is taking action.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)should be taken. I think we should attempt to win statewide elections and stage boycotts. I don't find protests all that useful personally. I doubt SCOTUS will allow us to tax churches nor will they uphold the right to protest. I don't know what the answer is. We dug ourselves a deep hole. If every Democrat voted in every election, we might have a shot. But having watched the attacks on the President over Afghanistan, it doesn't seem to me many have learned any lessons from 16. I hope I am wrong.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)nolabear
(41,956 posts)Thats fine. And Im glad you still believe in voting. I hope they never destroy that hope in you. Meanwhile Ill do what I can and teach others who can do what I cant, and maybe well do better.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I live in Minnesota. We voted for the Democrat for President. What happened in Texas?
All elections are local elections, even the Presidential election.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)What happened in Texas? You mean, today, or over the last forty years?
In a nutshell, over the last forty years, a bunch of rich jackasses moved here from other parts of the country and turned what was a thriving BLUE Texas into a red hell hole. At first, it was all about rich people not paying taxes. But then, the mega churches took seed and we have probably two generations of crazies now out there "savin' babies" because that's what God told them to do. The rich idiots figured out that they could use the religious crazies by keeping them all riled up and getting them to vote like the rich idiots. So they organized and it all turned into the crazy Republicans who have now gerrymandered the state so that voting doesn't really matter.
Sorry if you were looking for a more formal answer. But that's actually how Texas went from blue to red. Today's "win" for the crazies is putting a feather in their cap and it will embolden them. They won't stop at Texas. They could set their sights on Minnesota next. One never knows.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)are you supposing that only men enjoy sex?
spanone
(135,805 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Truth!!!
treestar
(82,383 posts)talked about immediately after the Orange Horror was sworn in.
infullview
(978 posts)Texas has just elevated civil law above judicial law. Isn't there some federal rule that can stop them?
gab13by13
(21,283 posts)the insurrection is growing. I have no idea why our DOJ allowed a bogus Cyber Ninja company go into Arizona and violate federal election laws. DOJ did write a stern letter.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)He has been such a disappointment.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)how the Taliban is mapping out its government.
Meanwhile, abortion has been made de facto illegal in Texas.
I am guilty of using nothing but rhetoric about it, too. I haven't taken any actions beyond posting and feeling outraged.
I thought that something like what Texas has done would create a mass uprising -- what use is there for having a government if its purpose is to beat women into submission?
Now that I think about it, I suppose that's what Texas has in common with media coverage of the Taliban; it's easier for us to fret over women and girls in a far off place than do anything about American women and families who are about to be brought to financial ruin because they dare to engage in family planning. Anyone involved in providing an abortion or seeking one out is at risk of being sued by any Texan. It doesn't matter if a case has merit or not. It will be expensive to defend, and most people will not have the means.
There will be a barefoot and pregnant class if this isn't stopped, beaten into submission by court fees and people who police women's bodies with a religious zeal.
We cannot depend on the Supreme Court to save us. The fix has been in for months. I don't know what to do to help.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Your post is awesome!!!
In reality, the coverage shows the lack of importance that some place on this subject.
My feeling is that whether or not abortion is your issue, this is the beginning of the GOP emboldened on that issue in Texas and coming to do the same thing in other states.
berniesandersmittens
(11,343 posts)gab13by13
(21,283 posts)All that the GQP has to do is take back the House and that is very possible with their upcoming gerrymandering.
I wish that Speaker Pelosi and Chuck Schumer could trade places for 2 months. So far we have approved 9 federal judges, 24 judges have been nominated by president Biden but they sit and wait, maybe after vacation?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)I'm amazed that so many people don't realize that.
If we can't vote for Democrats and have that count, every good thing Biden is doing will be immediately undone by incoming republicons.
FFS, Moscow Mitch brought the Senate back specifically to pack the court with crackpots MF45 was told to appoint. But Schumer takes how many weeks' vacation????
aggiesal
(8,909 posts)otherwise we'll have a member of the California chapter of the U.S. Taliban sitting in the Governors office.
we can do it
(12,180 posts)turbinetree
(24,688 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)or future jobs have been assured, and therefore they still don't care.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)betsuni
(25,445 posts)They aren't fighting! Fight more or I'm giving up!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Have a great day!!!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)In any case, perhaps a better headline would have been: "All right, people. Are you awake NOW???" or "All right, voters. Are you awake NOW???" But even something like that tends to suggest that we Democrats (and Democratic leadership) have just been lazily drifting along wherever the current will take us. Clueless; Unaware; Ignoring dangers, etc.
I think a call-to-action is better than an outright insult. "All right, voters. Let's get to work!" or "All right, voters. Let's re-double our efforts!" --- See what I mean?
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Ive been told on DU in my 17 years here that Roe v. Wade would never be overturned? A whole lot of times.
Well today is step one, at least, in that process. So, I stand by my comment that Dems need to wake up. If that offends you or anyone else - sorry.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The great deal of effort being spent in laying blame, and creating distrust and resentment could be better put to use by inspiring unity and strength. That's all I'm saying.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Im sorry that you feel the need to be. Perhaps you should trash the thread?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I disagree with you. Im not insulting anyone here and Im ending this exchange.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)betsuni
(25,445 posts)Republicans are to blame.
StarryNite
(9,442 posts)What offends me is what's happening to our country and our rights. It seems that the tactic the rethugs are using to take control is by doing it state by state. We can't be those frogs in a pot just sitting there while the heat is slowly turned up until we're cooked. I don't know what the answer is but we better figure it out soon.
Great post hamsterjill.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)You are absolutely right in that we need to get things figured out NOW. It's soon going to be too late.
James48
(4,429 posts)To ingest sheep dip, and acknowledge their right to not be vaccinated.
Im ok with that.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)We must also require truth in news and not allow the media to broadcast known falsehoods. The Donors uses their money to control politicians and they use their advertising money to control the media, which in turn controls many of the voters.
We will not stop them unless we band together to end these two root causes of most of our problems!
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Every evangelical will turn out and vote.
DFW
(54,329 posts)I only know three currently sitting Senators, but they all feel the same way, and one of them has already introduced a counter-measure to Republican voter-disenfranchisement efforts: https://www.ossoff.senate.gov/press-releases/sen-ossoff-introduces-bill-establishing-first-ever-statutory-federal-right-to-vote/
We could do worse than to write to our Senators (if Democrats are among them) to vigorously support Jon's efforts and his bill.
onecaliberal
(32,812 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)What more do I expect from Democrats, right?
I expect them to WIN!!!
onecaliberal
(32,812 posts)I heard Schumer talk about failure not being an option .
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I am disappointed a lot, too, unfortunately.
I like to win!!!
AverageOldGuy
(1,521 posts)My son is a rabid rightwinger -- QAnon, Trump, anti-vax, does not wear a seat belt. His wife is at the end of her rope. The real problem is two boys -- 14 and 11.
Wife and I are now filing suit to order him to have the 14-yr-old vaccinated. We are considering suing for custody and helping daughter-in-law with a divorce.
He is PISSED BEYOND BELIEF. My wife is crushed and crying all day.
Meanwhile, I have tolerated my Republican friends and their comments about masks, vaccines, abortion, "voter fraud," and the rest of their bullshit.
Wife and I decided this morning to cut them off. We have started dropping them on Facebook where we have posted a long explanation that we are not taking this shit any longer.
We told our pastor we will not be back -- we have had it with his comments FROM THE PULPIT.
Finally -- and this is NOT a joke -- I have placed a pistol under the front seat of all three of my vehicles and I have stocked up on ammo for all my guns.
We live in a rural Virginia county surrounded by armed "militia", Republicans, and other assholes.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Impossible situation with your son. I wish you all the best. Try to breathe
Jon King
(1,910 posts)It is what it is, a much smaller circle, just consisting of rationale people is the way to go.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)The ones that need to be entertained.
Vote D like your life depends on it because it does
betsuni
(25,445 posts)Exactly
station agent
(385 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Some here seem to think things are either fine or hopeless because Dems cant do anything more than they are already doing. I keep getting asked what I want Democrats to do.
I want them to WIN!!!
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Silence is acceptance.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Remember, even Texas was once blue. Its sad.
The GOP has an agenda and they are checking off their to do list.
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)At 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression after several cycles.
There is no Roe V. Wade if we allow voter suppression
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)I may also rail against an out of work actress at some point. I'm already seven paragraphs into that. Need to edit and tighten a bit.
Not sure, it's early in the day. So much activism to be done.
Let's start with a meme on FB and see where my day of activism takes me.
The net is a large world full of opportunity.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I see what you did there!!! LOL
Theres truth in your comment. Sad, isnt it?
JCMach1
(27,555 posts)...
Something is either a Constitutional right, or isnt
kskiska
(27,045 posts)She was pregnant and had taken thalidomide for morning sickness. When the news regarding the drug came out she was examined to determine whether her baby would be deformed. That turned out to be the case. Her doctor scheduled a therapeutic abortion, but backed off when it became publicized and turned into a media circus. She ended up going to Europe for the procedure.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/karinabland/2016/04/15/sherri-chessen-miss-sherri-romper-room-abortion-reproductive-rights-donald-trump/82957074/
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Thanks for sharing. Sad to see that we are returning to that.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)It's a shame we haven't progressed past that.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)That poor woman and what she had to endure.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)lame54
(35,277 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Can you bring the coffee?
ecstatic
(32,677 posts)If you look back at pivotal points in our history, those who were on the side of justice, equality, democracy had to take strong steps to ensure the continuation of this country. They didn't cower behind a filibuster or waiting for agreement from traitors.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Thank you!
onetexan
(13,033 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)But I dont see Biden doing this. I dont think hes bold enough to try it.
And for those who will quickly say he cant because of the House, or the Senate, or whatever other excuse there is - my answer is that there is ALWAYS a way. The administration just has to find it, make it, whatever.
We need extreme measures. Do whatever it takes. NOW.
onetexan
(13,033 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Like I said, I am for whatever works.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)It is our only option
dajoki
(10,678 posts)we have to fight them on their level, no more being the good guys. If they want to get down in the mud I say we rub their faces in it.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Youre absolutely right.
We no longer have the luxury of the holier than thou attitude that so many Dems cling to. We fight on THEIR level or we get clobbered.
Demovictory9
(32,444 posts)Both should be a wakeup call
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
wackadoo wabbit
(1,164 posts)I spent hours compiling and writing a post with information about actions people could take.
https://democraticunderground.com/100215807007
The final action was this:
As long as states can restrict voting, Republican-controlled states will continue to restrict women's access to safe, legal abortion, too. So what did you do today? Did you call both of your senators? If not, why not?
How about yesterday? How about tomorrow? Have you asked your friends and relatives to call, too?
Both senators need to be called daily until this bloody bill gets passed. Do what you can to ensure that it happens.
I thought that this would be an easy, free, yet very meaningful way for people to take action.
However, in the responses I got a surprising number of people complaining about how angry they were at people who hadn't voted Democratic in 2016, etc. I carefully replied to nearly all of them, asking that they transmute that anger into action. No one responded.
Then, this evening, I created a post asking how many people had contacted their senators today. I got 1 rec (a post showing Tom Hanks's T-shirt got hundreds) and two responses from people who chose to argue with me that apparently calling their senators wasn't worth their time. (I didn't even respond fully to the second person.)
I've never felt so dispirited. I really, really hope that people will listen to you.
SunImp
(2,223 posts)live in the past.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)I am a Democrat. I have been awake for 20 years. Including when Burnie said abortion rights are a distraction and Planned Parenthood was Establishment. You want to organize? I am in. But I am not taking any implication that I was asleep. Hillary warned us. I heard her. So, STFU with the asleep.
betsuni
(25,445 posts)The one that will never come because it's the United States.
There's a belief that Democrats could easily stop all the bad things Republicans do but they don't want to because they're beholden to wealthy donors, corporations, lobbyists, billionaires -- bribed, corrupt, and have the same economic policies as Republicans. They're just trying to fool us with their social policies. For the last forty years they've shifted to the Right and ignored the working/middle class/unions because all they care about is money (status quo means money in politics, the root of all government dysfunction -- ignore Republicans).
The belief that Democrats were shocked by the idea of universal health care, higher minimum wage, combating climate change, taxing the wealthy and corporations, economic equality, affordable education -- classic Democratic polices. They had never heard of these things and thought them impossible and radical! (Bernie has said this many, many times, like during a Rachel Maddow interview 7/10/19: "'Health care as a human right? Oh, Bernie, that's not -- that's un-American. Nobody in America believes that!'" -- a surprise to Democrats who've said for decades that health care is a human right -- Hillary's try in 1993 for universal health care, the Democrats who introduced Medicare for All bills for years, the ACA).
The belief that Democrats are the true roadblock to progress, as Michael Moore said. Always assume bad intentions and inaction when it comes to Democrats. They cannot be progressive without being "pulled" or "pushed" by True Progressives ("progressive" means anti-establishment with the establishment being the Democratic Establishment). This is a rule. Republican are innocents suffering from economic insecurity caused by neoliberal Democratic policies. Trump voters are just waiting for a true progressive utopian savior to vote for because they're secretly democratic socialists who will join the rest of the 99% in solidarity against the 1% in the class revolution. That's the ideology.