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slater71

(1,153 posts)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:11 PM Sep 2021

The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses.

I will give you one example. The capital riot was on Jan 6th. Pols did not get going on a committee and seat it until around Aug 18. They had ONE meeting and then went on a seven-week vacation. Why was all this time wasted when they know 22 is coming fast and if the House is lost, so in the investigation. All the while the republicans have been going crazy all over the country from new voting laws, abortion, and now we know where the supreme court will be. We have two rogue congress people that are hell-bent on stopping anything we want to do. What have we heard through all of this from the Democratic leaders? Crickets. If leadership does not start to show some balls on issues then we will lose everything in 22 and the WH in 24.

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The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses. (Original Post) slater71 Sep 2021 OP
It's on the failed voters of 2016, actually. Budi Sep 2021 #1
Does that make it OK? FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #2
Oh, and the failed voters of 2004, and 2000, and 1988, and 1984, and 1980... lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #16
But it's now again the Democrats! Budi Sep 2021 #20
You are bitterly blaming people who aren't here. 99.5% of DUers are reliable voters. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #21
What are you even saying? Who's Bitterly blaming who? Budi Sep 2021 #23
I can't deny there's a tinge of bitterness there. But there is a call to action. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #34
I have no problem with what the House is doing, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #3
I generally agree.... TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #9
Here we go. Bash Democrats. CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #4
Are you claiming that our leadership has no room for improvment? Chainfire Sep 2021 #11
Yeah it is bashing. CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #12
Thank you. hamsterjill Sep 2021 #13
Lulz. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #32
"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses" Budi Sep 2021 #22
Perhaps someone should have asked what his choice of words meant to him/her. Chainfire Sep 2021 #26
Sure. Apparantley for some but not for all... Budi Sep 2021 #27
Perhaps his use of the plural of Ass Chainfire Sep 2021 #28
Then he should have used a donkey gif. Budi Sep 2021 #30
We don't need every single detail JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #5
My hope is that DOJ is also investigating. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #7
So far, only an empty hope, it appears. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #17
The collective democrats are in a collective pickle by the republicans. GemDigger Sep 2021 #6
I have posted my idea several times, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #8
As long as Manchin and Sinema are standing in the way Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #10
The failed votes, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #14
Shouldn't people already be worked up enough at them by now? Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #15
Not enough to make a dent yet. We have to keep turning the screws. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #18
The narrative is extremely important. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #19
When did either Manchin or Sinema vote against Biden's agenda? George II Sep 2021 #25
Who are you talking about and what would you like them to do specifically? Anything? George II Sep 2021 #24
We don't know that yet so far it's just the "democrats in DC" (small d) Budi Sep 2021 #29
I read profiles. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #31
Amazing what shows up, huh! Budi Sep 2021 #33

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
2. Does that make it OK?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:21 PM
Sep 2021

If the OP didn't contain truth, maybe there wouldn't have been so many "failed voters".

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Oh, and the failed voters of 2004, and 2000, and 1988, and 1984, and 1980...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:01 PM
Sep 2021

How exactly does that help us move the needle now? I don't get the point of the backward-looking blaming. It just messes with your mind.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. But it's now again the Democrats!
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:10 PM
Sep 2021
"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses"

Default to "democrats in DC" when the truth requires personal ownership.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. You are bitterly blaming people who aren't here. 99.5% of DUers are reliable voters.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

So your bitterness has no positive effect. We can do ZERO about the outcome of past elections. On the other hand, we can pressure our lawmakers to do more, in the here and now.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
23. What are you even saying? Who's Bitterly blaming who?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:34 PM
Sep 2021

Appears the OP is bitterly blaming the
"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses".


Which Democrats in DC? All? Some?
99.5% of Democrats in DC?
Speaking of bitterly blaming! Wow.
"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses"


Because I am certain there's a great number who have towed the legislative line against an intentional method of stalling by Republicans & a fair share of those D's who prefer another neans to an end.


"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses". Is an insulting accusation to those who have been doing their required job, above & beyond & against the odds.





lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
34. I can't deny there's a tinge of bitterness there. But there is a call to action.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:49 PM
Sep 2021

Looking at the past, no action is possible.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
3. I have no problem with what the House is doing,
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:23 PM
Sep 2021

Speaker Pelosi tried to set up a commission to do the investigation but the GQP stonewalled it. Speaker Pelosi had to "waste the time," (sarcasm) because she expected she would get heat for doing a partisan select committee. Seeing as she got 2 Republicans to serve on the committee this shows to me she did the right thing. Remember, Congress can only investigate, it has no authority to bring criminal charges. If you want to go after someone go after our DOJ, it has a lot more clout than a select committee and it can bring criminal charges.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
9. I generally agree....
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Sep 2021

But if we need to subpoena phone records and the like, delays are more likely to mean that the they Republicans will be able to hold those up until after the 2022 elections.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
11. Are you claiming that our leadership has no room for improvment?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Sep 2021

I don't see the OP's post as "bashing Democrats." When inferring that any criticism is "bashing" we begin to sound like the folks on the other side. Our President and our Representatives in Congress are not without flaws; they are human.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
12. Yeah it is bashing.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sep 2021

The OP makes no reference to how they are sitting on their asses. Just makes the claim that they are. That is unsubstantiated. The OP needs to state how Dems are not doing what they should.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. Thank you.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:10 PM
Sep 2021

Great post!!!! There is always room for improvement. This is not bashing. But the response you got is a alert bait.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
22. "The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses"
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:21 PM
Sep 2021

All of them? Some of them?

Collective asses meaning all the democrat's asses?

🙄

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
26. Perhaps someone should have asked what his choice of words meant to him/her.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:14 PM
Sep 2021

I would also like to see us moving faster with a progressive agenda. We may only have a short window to work with. The OP showed a little impatience with the pace of progress, he/she was not being a heretic. I won't quibble over their choice of words.

We are supposed to be about a free exchange of ideas among progressives, I think we could be a little more "liberal" with what we find to be "acceptable" language and a little less quick to accusing someone of being unfaithful to the cause.

Just my opinion.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
27. Sure. Apparantley for some but not for all...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:23 PM
Sep 2021
"We are supposed to be about a free exchange of ideas among progressives, I think we could be a little more "liberal" with what we find to be "acceptable" language and a little less quick to accusing someone of being unfaithful to the cause."

We can always expect to be reminded of our place among liberals, progressives, indys, &, those collective democrats' asses!!

👍💙

JustAnotherGen

(31,817 posts)
5. We don't need every single detail
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:28 PM
Sep 2021

We know that Jim Jordan and Kevin McCarthy are in the cross hairs of the committee. We know McCarthy is so backed up against a wall that he has threatened the telecoms.

I trust the process and the people on the committee.

They don't have four years - they have about a year from now. Just in time to nail electeds from the GOP to the wall for the mid terms.

I hope they drag this out nice and slow for maximum impact in the midterms.

The biggest deal right now are the two voting bills. Get that done - and it's a one two punch of decimating our opposition in November 2022.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
6. The collective democrats are in a collective pickle by the republicans.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:44 PM
Sep 2021

If you have an idea on what could be done then I am sure the leadership democrats in DC would collectively love to hear it.


gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
8. I have posted my idea several times,
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:59 PM
Sep 2021

I have no problem with the House, I am not Chuck Schumer but if I were this is what I would have already done; bust up S1 into a dozen individual bills and bring each bill up for a vote. When the GQP votes down every damn bill then go to Manchin and Sinema and tell them you expect them to vote in favor of a carve out for the filibuster for election/voting bills.

Doing nothing or saying nothing can be done is not an option, our democracy is at stake.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
10. As long as Manchin and Sinema are standing in the way
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Sep 2021

of ending the filibuster and/or voting against this legislation, it won't matter. And there are no Republican votes for it at all. If Manchin and Sinema were willing to end the filibuster to pass at least some of the bill, I'm sure Schumer would do it but at the moment all we would be looking at is a series of failed votes.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
14. The failed votes,
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:43 PM
Sep 2021

would be used to garner public outrage at Manchin and Sinema if they refuse to do filibuster carve out. These bills that the GQP will vote down are very popular bills. When the GQP votes down a bill that allows giving water to people standing in line to vote it will outrage the public. Let Manchin and Sinema own the no brainer voting bills that the people want.

Saying nothing can be done is not an option.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
15. Shouldn't people already be worked up enough at them by now?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:54 PM
Sep 2021

This has been going on for months with the two of them and their antics.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
19. The narrative is extremely important.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:10 PM
Sep 2021

The MSM controls the narrative and that puts Democrats behind the 8 ball. Holding rapid fire votes on no brainer voting bills will change the narrative. Cable news is good at propaganda, I believe that I am the only person left on earth who calls Trump's border wall what it really is, a fence.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
29. We don't know that yet so far it's just the "democrats in DC" (small d)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:27 PM
Sep 2021
"The democrats in DC has to get off their collective asses."

(Note the RW Lower case d)
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