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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:14 PM Sep 2021

Rep. McCarthy threatens tech and telecom firms that comply with Jan. 6 committee's request to retain

information related to attack

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) is threatening telecommunications and social media companies that comply with a request by the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob, declaring that Republicans “will not forget” their actions.

McCarthy spoke with former president Donald Trump on the day of the attack and is a potential witness in the select committee’s probe.

His statement comes after the panel on Monday asked 35 companies to retain phone records and other information related to the attack as it ramps up its investigation ahead of the return of Congress next month. Several of the companies indicated this week that they intend to comply with the panel’s requests.

“Adam Schiff, Bennie Thompson, and Nancy Pelosi’s attempts to strong-arm private companies to turn over individuals’ private data would put every American with a phone or computer in the crosshairs of a surveillance state run by Democrat politicians,” McCarthy said in a statement Tuesday night, referring to the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, the chairman of the select committee and the House speaker.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rep-mccarthy-threatens-tech-and-telecom-firms-that-comply-with-jan-6-committees-request-to-retain-information-related-to-attack/ar-AANYPBq

Not many tech businesses in Bakersfield.

Speaking as one who's worked in the telecommunications business, records can be subpoenaed in criminal investigations. McCarthy's intimidation tactics are said.
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Rep. McCarthy threatens tech and telecom firms that comply with Jan. 6 committee's request to retain (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Isn't that statement Pantagruel Sep 2021 #1
Exactly onetexan Sep 2021 #5
If requests are legal (via subpoenaed requests), then companies will comply. As they usually do in SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #2
Most local landline traffic isn't recorded Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #3
Landline? What's that? lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #7
Retention periods of these call recordings vary from state to state...here's a short list of SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #9
What Faux pas Sep 2021 #4
Qevin MqQarthy looks a little nervous, doesn't he? lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #6
I see this backfiring on Little Kevie. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #8
You sound nervous, Kevin; are you nervous? gratuitous Sep 2021 #10

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
2. If requests are legal (via subpoenaed requests), then companies will comply. As they usually do in
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:36 PM
Sep 2021

cases if the FBI, and/or other agencies request (for drug cases, etc., a normal course of business in the telecommunications world). This is a normal course of business.

The big issue / thing I have with this is if there is any recordings even available? As a normal course of business, most local traffic isn't recorded (at one time, it may be different now) otherwise, it would overwhelm recording media. We did studies on this (just for data networks) and the sheer amount of media required to store the recordings was an huge number of storage devices, way too costly.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
3. Most local landline traffic isn't recorded
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 01:43 PM
Sep 2021

I believe cell phone traffic is a different beast largely due to local number portability.

The question is how long are these records kept. Are they discarded after a while?

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
9. Retention periods of these call recordings vary from state to state...here's a short list of
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

retention requirements...by the way, in my environment, where we converted call records for a packet switching system (pre-internet) into standard AMA formatted recordings, records were retained at least a bare minimum of 1 year (and usually far longer, e.g., 5 years was a common time interval)...you never knew what lawsuits/administrative proceedings before a public service committee, etc. etc. would come in and affect the retention periods of various data recordings...

[T]he FCC requires that carriers keep CDR for all toll calls for a period of 18 months (if you want to read the actual language, the cite is 47 C.F.R. §42.6). Some states have different retention periods that exceed the federal requirement. In addition, some states simply defer to the FCC’s then-applicable retention period while other states are silent on the matter altogether.

Accordingly, carriers need to retain CDR for a minimum of 18 months, and for a longer period of time if you do business in a state with retention requirements exceeding federal requirements. Below is a list of the applicable CDR retention periods by jurisdiction.
18 Months New York, Ohio
2 Years Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Wyoming
3 Years Florida, Missouri, Virginia

States Deferring to FCC

Alabama, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

No State Law

Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin

Hybrid

New Jersey – wholesale CDR must be retained for 18 months and retail CDR and billing records must be retained for 6 years

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
8. I see this backfiring on Little Kevie.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:02 PM
Sep 2021

]I don't see AT&T and the others tolerating his threats and intimidation. I'm sure they also don't want to partake in his obstruction of justice.

The question is: Is he being that blatant because he's THAT desperate to hide his involvement, and an he's an idiot? Or, is he sure the 2022 fix is in?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. You sound nervous, Kevin; are you nervous?
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:42 PM
Sep 2021

After all, there's no law or statute that the companies would be in violation of, contrary to your groundless threat. Why would you lie so blatantly like that? It makes you sound like you have something to hide. Do you have something to hide, Kevin?

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