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no_hypocrisy

(46,019 posts)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:07 PM Sep 2021

Do I have this correct about the new Texas abortion law:

If I discover that I'm pregnant before "Week 6" (whenever that really is), I'd better do it in secret by a home pregnancy test because a doctor will be legally bound to report my pregnancy otherwise. And I will be legally held hostage in Texas until my zygote/embryo/fetus is born.

And if I discover I am pregnant, I have to make sure nobody knows I'm pregnant. And I'd better disappear on my own to get out of the state of Texas because if anyone drives me across the border, if anyone gives me money for train, plane, or bus, they can be sued by a stranger as an accessory to murder.

And I should start a secret stash of cash in my closet when I get my first period so I can finance my secret illegal out-of-state abortion.

And when I return, if Texas can force me to undergo a post-abortion physical, I can be charged with murder.

Did I miss anything?

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Do I have this correct about the new Texas abortion law: (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 OP
Welcome to Gilead musette_sf Sep 2021 #1
and it appears if anyone suspects any of things about you... Thomas Hurt Sep 2021 #2
Say nothing to anyone and ask no one for advice for four years dalton99a Sep 2021 #3
No FBaggins Sep 2021 #4
410,000 plus lawyer fees. Will create an industry. Nt lostnfound Sep 2021 #6
Lots of unexpected outcomes. StClone Sep 2021 #5
Agreed. It seems to me kcr Sep 2021 #8
Are people still wanting to move to Texas? StClone Sep 2021 #9
Where I live, I hear that less after Trump won kcr Sep 2021 #10
I wonder how fast Tech companies flee Johonny Sep 2021 #12
Since these Republicans say they are Christians marie999 Sep 2021 #7
I don't think anyone knows how the law will actually work Johonny Sep 2021 #11

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. and it appears if anyone suspects any of things about you...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:20 PM
Sep 2021

they can sue for 10K, and anyone who helped you.

dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
3. Say nothing to anyone and ask no one for advice for four years
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

unless you want some random stranger to terrorize them

FBaggins

(26,716 posts)
4. No
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:30 PM
Sep 2021

You certainly can't be charged with murder. No charges against you at all in fact. I'm also not aware of any reporting requirement (nor how that would fit within other laws).

You also don't need to keep it secret if you discover the pregnancy prior to a heartbeat being detected.

After that point, you're probably right to avoid involving others... but there's no crime involved. The most likely negative impact (assuming the law doesn't fall by then) would be that the doctor could be sued for $10k.

StClone

(11,682 posts)
5. Lots of unexpected outcomes.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:31 PM
Sep 2021

Poor prenatal, post natal care, poverty, abuse of unplanned children.

As I said every women in Texas should fake being pregnant and then say they had an abortion.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
8. Agreed. It seems to me
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:12 PM
Sep 2021

It won't just be doctors who perform abortions who will be vulnerable, but any health care provider who helps women of childbearing age. For instance, if I were an ob-gyn I would be getting the hell out of Texas yesterday. When they start deserting Texas this will affect women and children of all ages.

I believe the effects will ripple beyond healthcare. States that ban abortion will find themselves quickly backsliding culturally and economically. Roe V Wade's protection from ultra-conservative special interests helped states like Texas to grow and become more attractive to businesses and universities and healthcare systems, allowing them to attract more people who wanted to live there. There was even talk of turning purple. Now that's gone. Imagine being a recruiter at a hospital or college in a state that bans abortion? Why would any business want their headquarters in a state that bans abortion?

StClone

(11,682 posts)
9. Are people still wanting to move to Texas?
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 09:32 PM
Sep 2021

Fleeing California's cost of living for Texas with its dangerous loose gun laws, anti-abortion craze, and anti-voter legislation.

In April 2024 we are planning to catch the total eclipse of the sun and travel widely in the state. I hope things settle in the Lone Star state, because it is not where I want to spend money if so.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
10. Where I live, I hear that less after Trump won
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:51 PM
Sep 2021

Before then it seemed like everyone wanted to move there. Now it seems everyone wants to move to Arizona. I learned my lesson years ago and moved back to a solid blue state where I'm firmly staying put. Never again.

Johonny

(20,817 posts)
12. I wonder how fast Tech companies flee
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:01 PM
Sep 2021

And companies like Tesla and Toyota that recently moved there will likely soon discover most educated job seekers are unwilling to move to a place with such repulsive laws.

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marie999

(3,334 posts)
7. Since these Republicans say they are Christians
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 06:11 PM
Sep 2021

shouldn't God and churches be sued for all miscarriages?

Johonny

(20,817 posts)
11. I don't think anyone knows how the law will actually work
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:58 PM
Sep 2021

As written it seems like a legal nightmare where the Texas courts will swell with "abortion" bounty lawyers to the point of grinding the Texas courts into the ground.

Meanwhile, I assume most educated young women will flee Texas rather than find out how this works. Meanwhile the poor will be trapped in a verdictive system design to keep them in fear.

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