Will companies with offices in TX have more trouble recruiting?

[spooky3]

With all of the developments in Texas over the past few years, I can imagine that many prospective employees who are in demand will choose not to accept offers in TX and go somewhere else. I wonder if the legislature has thought that through?

[Walleye]

1. I don't think anybody has thought through anything about this law

[leftieNanner]

2. Huge tech position in Austin

Tesla. Etc.

Texas passed zero tax laws.

We shall see what happens.

[DBoon]

7. Austin is not West Berlin

It is not some "free zone" in Texas - it is subject to the same laws.

High tech employees can write their own ticket - why move to a place with laws like this, especially if you are a young woman.

[leftieNanner]

10. Absolutely! Nt

[Freddie]

3. I hope there's a movement afoot

For businesses to relocate conventions. Companies to stop business trips to Texas. Entertainers to cancel concerts. Hit them where it matters, in the wallet. It’s worked before.

[viva la]

4. What young women are going to want to work there?

They're being told very strongly that the state is determined to restrict their rights and put them at risk.

[Pinback]

9. +1. Many men are aware of this situation and willing to take a stand as well.

Particularly in the tech sector, there is a lot of awareness. And many of these people have multiple employment options.

[spooky3]

14. +1

[viva la]

16. Yes, and the companies have options too.

Other states would welcome tech companies.

[spooky3]

29. exactly nt

[DBoon]

5. I would love to see employees turn down relocation to Texas for this and related reasons

Businesses may think twice about the "business friendly" low taxes and non-regulation when most of their workforce decides they'd rather quit than move there.

[spooky3]

12. I'm in VA, and when he was gov., McAuliffe said it was easier to compete with No Carolina

when the GQP was pushing things there. He claimed several companies and conventions moved to VA instead, because of that.

I know Amazon has some serious problems, but they put their 2nd HQ in NoVA in part because Northam et al. agreed to invest heavily in tech education AND because Amazon thought it would be easier to recruit tech talent given the blue region than in some other areas that badly wanted Amazon.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. There may well be a great migration out of Texas.

Young females and males that won't have nothing to do with the Republican vision for Texas.

[Hoyt]

8. Rube-necks will move there. Tech companies from states like California

have been moving to Texas.

I wouldn’t, but some people are fine with law, or figure they can handle the situation if it occurs.

[spooky3]

13. But TX has competition other than CA. DC for example has as many or more tech jobs as Austin,

and Boston and some other cities are also competitive. How many of the desirable, talented prospective employees are rubes?

[Hoyt]

21. Hope you are right. But tech companies from California are moving there,

and will continue.

Also hope that people will move elsewhere, and Texans will move. I’m just not sure that’s the case.

[spooky3]

25. Yes, but my point is that ALREADY other locations are MORE than competitive with TX. You

may not be aware of how many tech employees are outside of TX and NoCal (and Seattle). Check out the data. And as the TX laws (etc.) become more draconian, that cannot help TX.

Here are some data:

https://spanning.com/resources/industry-research/cities-with-most-technology-jobs-per-capita/

DC metro and four other metro areas have more tech jobs per capita than does Austin.

[Hoyt]

32. I hear you, but if I had to bet, this won't appreciably hurt Texas. Heck,

they’ve been rube-neck for decades. Personally, I’m fine if every rube moves to Texas, but I feel awful for the good Democrats there.

I think law will be successfully challenged to some degree, but it’s a tough fight.

[Dan]

11. Actually, I think it would be more of an impact if ALL medical people departed Texas.

Let the dead bury the dead, they be known as Texans.

[Equomba]

15. I highly doubt it.

First of all, I don't believe most women believe they're going to have an unwanted pregnancy. Added to this, since you're talking about those who are living outside the state going through the process of accepting a job in TX they are for the most part at a higher salary than those within the state and hey, if something happens, they can board my soon to be IPO'd company "Abortion Airlines" and take a weekend vacation, which they have the means to pay for.

So IMO, no.

[spooky3]

18. You do realize, don't you, that those desirable people have options outside of TX also? And many

people past the age where pregnancy is likely but still in prime employment years are turned off by multiple recent developments. They are forming a pattern that alienates a lot of people and lead them to choose alternatives.

[Claustrum]

28. How many young people would put an unwanted pregnancy at the top of their list for employment?

Salary, location, job security, career advancement are in their list. I can assure you most young people aren't thinking about unwanted pregnancy when they choose where to live. This issue is more concerns for politically aware people and unfortunately, a lot of young people aren't. It's shown in generations of young people and their track records of low voting record.

[spooky3]

31. No one claimed that. It is part of a pattern of recent developments that signals what kind of

community and state one would be moving to. I'm not sure you are as in touch with what young people who would be considered highly desirable talented employees are thinking as you claim.

[Claustrum]

34. You are entitled to your opinion but none of my friends (we are all engineers with master degrees)

would think about unwanted pregnancy when we are weighing between different offers. Like I said, salary, job advancement, location (as in if the city/town is a fun place), distance from friends/relatives are all being considered. But, not even red/blue states would make it into the list, let alone this particular new law.

PS. I said most young people. There will be some young people that cares but most don't.

[spooky3]

35. I have a doctorate and have been with a top university for many years. So I think I know

a little about what young people think when looking for jobs. And you still aren't "getting" the point that this is not simply about unwanted pregnancies.

And this is not just about people in child-bearing years. People in their 40s and 50s for example are prime managerial candidates.

[elleng]

17. They SHOULD, only ONE of the consequences

we'll see.

[leighbythesea2]

19. Let us hope, also colleges?

Just wrote in another thread--a position posting @ a college came through last week in TX. Am not really looking but bc I just finished my masters, different types of jobs show up.
I paused bc of covid response. Then paused bc I like Austin.
But It'd be the fashion program, which is 95% young women. I cannot. Would be too worried about them all. Which brings us to, how will out of state students view TX colleges?

[spooky3]

22. Good question. I have relatives in several TX cities. I visited one of those

cities, which also has several universities, last year and loved it. But college students would have a lot to think about.

[leighbythesea2]

30. Have to assume

Some college administrators are in serious meetings today. It'll be a nightmare for them.

Also, per comment above, yes anyone with relocation options when looking for jobs (we assume higher wage workers here) have options in other states too most likely.

Theres no monopoly TX has on any industry, that I am aware.

[viva la]

20. How does this law affect the plan b pill?

[lagomorph777]

23. I'm pretty sure I could land a job at SpaceX, and would love it,

but there is absolutely no way I could even set foot in Texas. And that was before this medieval law.

[msongs]

24. if all these people leave, texas will never turn blue nt

[spooky3]

27. but TX would also lose electoral college votes if that happens. nt

[LeftInTX]

26. All the nasty stuff hasn't stopped them yet..

And it's been full of nasty stuff for the past several decades, especially after 2010......
Voter ID laws, Open carry, forcing abortion clinics to close, defunding planned parenthood, the list goes on and on....
We've had crazy Abbott and Dan Patrick running the state for 6 years now.......

[cadoman]

33. absolutely [nt]

[herding cats]

36. It would seem logical, but I don't see it happening.

Austin is booming beyond expectations. My house there is worth almost twice what I paid for it just more than a handful of years later. Every major business is clamoring to be here now, and little has changed as to our messed up politics.

They do not care. Their staff doesn't care. It's a hot, low tax market and real estate compared to the places they're relocating from is still a sweet deal. They'll ship out their mistress and wives to a vacation state to be "tended to" if the need arises.

It's not the working proles who are driving the markets here. It's the professionals and the elites. For whom rules don't apply. The local support workers will be the ones who suffer from the messed up laws. They're also the ones so busy trying to stay afloat they can't keep up until it's too late.

[spooky3]

38. You make a good point about how the well-off can still fly to another state, etc. But

it's not just about the most recent law but also about COVID management and other developments. The boom you describe is also happening/has happened in other cities and states. So the question is whether there will be a breaking point rather than a continuation of what has happened before.

[herding cats]

40. Regarding Covid: many of the affluent purchased double vaccinations here already.

Two full rounds a few months apart. Some have bragged to me about being able to get extra vaccines off the record. They're not living in fear, they think they're invincible still, and most are doing just fine. As to the masking in Austin, they're willing to comply since it's the proper social response. This current wave is beginning to wane here, and they're none the worse for it.

Again, the ones who've suffered are the working class support people who've contracted the virus. Many of them don't get any time off if they have side effects from the vaccine and have been afraid to risk getting the it for fear of not making their bills due to exaggerated side effects they've been told about. Yes, if you're wondering, they do miss more work when they catch it if it's bad, but until now many didn't and it was a risk worth taking. Many are now being vaccinated. They're rethinking things under delta.

[walkingman]

37. The only thing that will fix Texas is to stop re-electing these Neanderthals.

[Thunderbeast]

39. Women with financial resources have options.

A flight to any number of states can resolve their issue. If the pregnancy is early enough, a prescription and a trip to a drug store will provide the needed solution.

This has never been about women with money. It has always been about punishing poor women for having sex. Pregnancy has always been the ultimate punishment for love outside of what is approved of in the BIBUL...The ultimate threat leveled at teenaged daughters to "keep them pure".