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BREAKING: By a 54 vote, with Roberts joining the liberals, the Supreme Court REFUSES to block Texas' six-week abortion ban.
ETA: Manchin is anti-choice as is Casey from PA, I believe, so do not expect the Senate to do a damn thing about this even if the House passes a bill.
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dalton99a
(81,455 posts)maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)McConnell blocked Garland, then Trump delivered 3 regressive, young Judges in 4 years. 2016 was an unmitigated disaster.
Every GQP-controlled state will pass this law in the next month.
ColinC
(8,291 posts)Yeaterday
LeftInTX
(25,264 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,009 posts)madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)It feels hopeless.
More evidence that John Roberts is a deeply conflicted man. He did the right thing today in joining the liberals.
I am also going to say it out loud here: Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have retired during the early second term of the Obama administration. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but she bears a great deal of responsibility for Amy Coney Barrett sitting on the SC.
renate
(13,776 posts)But yeah. What on earth was she thinking? It sickens me to speak ill of her, but that was just... just so totally uncharacteristically dumb. Why did she stay? Why? With her medical history? She beat the odds as it was to get as close to the end of Trump's term as she did, but clearly it wasn't worth the risk. It's inexplicable.
It breaks my heart to say it but you're not alone in your opinion. I think she hung the moon and was a brilliant, strong, absolutely stupendous person in every other way, but damn.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)In this case, it's particularly abhorrent because her 'sin' is that she... died?
Talk about some sexist bullshit.
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)It has nothing to do with her being a woman.
It is not sexist bullshit. This would be my opinion if Ginsburg had been a man.
Get a grip.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)You giving them a pass? Or did you just run out of blame after laying it all on a dead woman?
Anything towards Kennedy? Should he have retired earlier, under Obama, rather than leave during Trump? He was very much a pro-abortion judge, in spite of who appointed him. Why lay all the blame at Ruths feet? Why give Anthony a pass?
Seriously though. All the men involved in this decision, not one iota of blame in their direction. Plenty of blame towards a woman, and a dead one at that.
So yes, your opinion that RGB bares any sort of blame for this is a load of sexist bullshit.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)Mark Joseph Stern
@mjs_DC
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By a 54 vote, the Supreme Court just allowed Texas to enforce a law that prohibits abortions after six weeks, with no exception for rape or incest. Roe v. Wade is, functionally, overturned. Justice Sotomayor all but says it.
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ananda
(28,858 posts)It messes with the criminal justice and court
system as well.
I see all kinds of problems with anyone being
able to seek a bounty without any possibility
of redress.
There will be crazy ass unintended consequences
with this.
elleng
(130,865 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,131 posts)Murphyb849
(572 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,131 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)I just said similar in another post. There is no easy fix to this disaster we're living. We were warned, we ignored the warnings and bickered and dithered. Now we want, nay expect, a miracle to save us. Funny how that works.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)This will rip the republic to shreads.
I fully support a ballot proposal to duplicate NY abortion law in MI, or go even further.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)stuck in red states. The hard facts are they'll be the ones to bear the largest brunt of these hideous laws. But, and I'm calling it now, there will be some who simply say they should leave. As if they have the means or skill sets to pull-up and relocate. The wealthy will lean on their privilege and never feel a ripple of fear as they travel for "vacations" to accepting states.
My heart is full of sadness for my fellow women tonight. Fear and panic driven decisions should never be an only choice.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)We have a wonderful Governor and Attorney General in MI who will block this crap until we can get a ballot proposal passed in 2022 or 2024.
I think you are going to see an outpouring of support from states like us.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Many have no means to get there, get a procedure and pay for a place to stay and get home again. The cost of the procedure for many women is prohibitive alone. And that's if it's locally administered.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Boy, does this ever feel like the 1850s.
We all know where that went.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm still slightly shocked by it becoming reality. I grew up, and have lived my reproductive years knowing I had a choice if I needed it. To see that ripped from women now makes me want to save them by any means available to me.
Frankly, I'm having some difficulty processing this is where we are again.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)When a few states like NY, HI and WA were legal abortion states.
This is going to backfire for the Christian Taliban in states where ballot proposals can be setup. Case in point, here in MI the Repuke legislature stalled and farted around on MJ legalization. So, we put up a ballot proposal that made us the most liberal MJ state in the union and rammed it down their throats. That will happen with the abortion proposal we are going to bring up as well.
Right down the gizzard.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Thank you! Your, "right down the gizzard" was the perfect verbiage at this moment. It was the proper level of levity which was needed tonight. 😂
roamer65
(36,745 posts)My heart is heavy tonite as well. This has the potential to break up the country.
Elessar Zappa
(13,964 posts)We just passed a bill legalizing abortion in the event that Roe is overturned.
elleng
(130,865 posts)we stress that we do not purport to resolve definitively any jurisdictional or substantive claim in the applicants lawsuit. In particular, this order is not based on any conclusion about the constitutionality of Texas law, and in no way limits other procedurally proper challenges to the Texas law, including in Texas state courts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/us/supreme-court-texas-abortion.html
Marius25
(3,213 posts)I just don't know how we fix things. This is the most corrupt, authoritarian court this country has ever seen.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Where the minority is oppressing the majority.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)this and this alone made 4 years of Trump worth it. Most of the higher ups knew he was an idiot, but a useful one. All the damage he did, that we are still feeling today, was worth it for them because of this moment.
berniesandersmittens
(11,343 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)So by that rationale, any state could enact a civil penalty, as long as it is a private citizen initiating the law suite, for exercising a constitutional right.
So could NY have a law that bans handguns and set enforcement at the private citizen level, say allowing them to sue for $20k if they suspect someone has a handgun?
You could go on and on with the scenarios.
I wonder what would happen if Texas clinics ignored the law? And refused to participate in the suits. Or they hire a team of attorneys to make these suits procedural nightmares for anyone filing? $10k is not much, so what lawyer is going to spend hundreds of hours to prove a case for $10k?
What if the DOJ got involved and said they would potentially prosecute anyone who files a lawsuit for a denial of civil rights crime?
Sur Zobra
(3,428 posts)The Supreme Court would absolutely shoot it down. The right-wing majority on the court dont rule on the law, but on their ideology