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If A Fetus Is A Person At Six Weeks Pregnant... (Original Post) Jim G. Sep 2021 OP
I like where this is going.... diverdownjt Sep 2021 #1
Income tax deductions should begin with wnylib Sep 2021 #2
I believe Old Crank Sep 2021 #3
Seat belts, hell! Most states have child safety seat laws... SeattleVet Sep 2021 #32
WHAT about the MEN? LittleGirl Sep 2021 #4
good point ... perspectives are important sarchasm Sep 2021 #8
Because the men evolves Sep 2021 #17
Because she is a whore for sleeping with him leftieNanner Sep 2021 #19
Yep, sign them up for 18 years of mandatory child support and even spousal smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #12
then they could be charged bluedevil4 Sep 2021 #15
Is that where the term "choking" came from? leftieNanner Sep 2021 #20
LOL nt bluedevil4 Sep 2021 #24
I the vigilante approach is upheld by the SC, left lawyers should NCjack Sep 2021 #5
Does a fetus count for the HOV lane? Danmel Sep 2021 #6
don't forget Tax Deduction as well at six weeks. nt bonniebgood Sep 2021 #7
👍 Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #9
Also OLDMDDEM Sep 2021 #10
Technically, at 6 weeks past conception, it is called an embryo, not a fetus andym Sep 2021 #11
Generally 8 weeks but variable keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #26
You forgot the "snowflake" babies. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #27
It isn't viable until it takes its first gasp of air. roamer65 Sep 2021 #13
I agree Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #22
I believe the constitution states that any person born in the United States is a citizen Walleye Sep 2021 #14
Well it certainly is the beginning of a person. tavernier Sep 2021 #16
Does Texas have recall laws? Recall them all. Also we need a boycott against TX Liberty Belle Sep 2021 #18
I want two completely opposite things to happen leftieNanner Sep 2021 #21
Of course choice applies here too. soldierant Sep 2021 #23
The law of unintended consequences keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #25
k & R malaise Sep 2021 #28
If a fertilized egg is a person (from conception) NotANeocon Sep 2021 #29
Let's go all out and charge men for wasting their sacred sperm csziggy Sep 2021 #31
A sperm - or an ovum - does not create "life". NotANeocon Sep 2021 #34
True, but sperm and ovum will not survive long if they do not combine csziggy Sep 2021 #35
They also do not survive long without the proper environment NotANeocon Sep 2021 #37
If a fetus is a human being... AdamGG Sep 2021 #30
+10000000000000000 Celerity Sep 2021 #33
Every one of the "women as inferior creatures" arguments. NotANeocon Sep 2021 #36

wnylib

(21,422 posts)
2. Income tax deductions should begin with
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 06:05 AM
Sep 2021

pregnancy.

Will airlines, buses, theaters, and concerts require 2 tickets for pregnant women?

Automatic citizenship for children conceived in the US.

Count pregnancies in the census.


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Old Crank

(3,564 posts)
3. I believe
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:10 AM
Sep 2021

That in most states two people can't share a seatbelt. So no private car usage, cabs, uber.....

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
32. Seat belts, hell! Most states have child safety seat laws...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:03 AM
Sep 2021

I'm waiting to see the first prosecution because the pregnant woman couldn't figure out how to get that seat up in there!

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
4. WHAT about the MEN?
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:14 AM
Sep 2021

Women can’t get pregnant without them!
When are they going to be held accountable?

sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
8. good point ... perspectives are important
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:44 AM
Sep 2021

“If a woman has sex with 100 random men in a year, she can only produce one full term pregnancy. If a guy has sex with 100 random women in a year, he can produce 100 full term pregnancies. So why exactly are we only talking about regulating women?”

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
19. Because she is a whore for sleeping with him
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 05:45 PM
Sep 2021

He's a stud muffin for sleeping with 100.

It's all about power and control.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Yep, sign them up for 18 years of mandatory child support and even spousal
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

support if the woman can't afford to work and pay for day care. It's only fair that the man pony up for his responsibility.

C'mon, attorneys of rational America, lets see some legislation that fucks these assholes right back.

andym

(5,443 posts)
11. Technically, at 6 weeks past conception, it is called an embryo, not a fetus
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:46 AM
Sep 2021

which is usually used after week 9-11.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
27. You forgot the "snowflake" babies.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 09:38 PM
Sep 2021

How can we forget the snowflake babies?

As much as I'd like to, it seems indelibly etched upon my mind.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
13. It isn't viable until it takes its first gasp of air.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:54 AM
Sep 2021

I am for completely unrestricted abortion rights. It’s the only way to absolutely ensure the woman’s health is paramount.

Personally I think even NY abortion law is too restrictive.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
22. I agree
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 07:10 PM
Sep 2021

Why should embryos have a right to another person's body? If I at 25 need a kidney, does my mother have to then give me hers? If the fetus were to be born and grow to a child, would it have a right to the father's kidney if it needed a transplant? The answer is No. Yet embryos have a right to use a woman's body without her consent according to the religiously insane and Texas.

A 6 week embryo is Not a baby, it is not a person, it does not have special rights that other people don't have to each other's bodies. Until it can live unattached to another human, it lives at the pleasure of the woman whose body it is using.

Walleye

(31,002 posts)
14. I believe the constitution states that any person born in the United States is a citizen
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

Of course born is the operative word.

tavernier

(12,375 posts)
16. Well it certainly is the beginning of a person.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 04:54 PM
Sep 2021

But between impregnation and birth, there are a million different reasons for different outcomes. My view on abortion for myself is where my opinion belongs, not at the door of my neighbor.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
18. Does Texas have recall laws? Recall them all. Also we need a boycott against TX
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 05:34 PM
Sep 2021

We need major companies to pull out of Texas. Cancel concerts, conventions, new business expansions after all why would any women want to work in Texas?

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
21. I want two completely opposite things to happen
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 05:49 PM
Sep 2021

#1 - All good Democrats leave the state of Texas. We're talking serious brain drain here.

#2 - All good Democrats need to STAY in Texas in order to vote the fuckers out!

A dilemma indeed.

soldierant

(6,846 posts)
23. Of course choice applies here too.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:09 PM
Sep 2021

I admire the strength of the Democrats who choose not to leave but to stay and fight.

But I cannot fault the choice of those who leave. A human being can only stand so much.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
29. If a fertilized egg is a person (from conception)
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 10:30 PM
Sep 2021

Then lets REALLY GO ALL OUT and demand funeral services for failed pregnancy. There will be "persons" dying every month with menses according to studies so tampons and sanitary napkins should be deposited in an appropriate place {a church, or state legislature or the SCOTUS) until such time aas proper post-mortem rites can be completed.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
31. Let's go all out and charge men for wasting their sacred sperm
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:26 PM
Sep 2021

Since every sperm has the chance to create life, not one of them should go down the drain. Of course, this is inspired by this song:

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
34. A sperm - or an ovum - does not create "life".
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 03:24 PM
Sep 2021

Both are already live entities.

The "create life" and "when does life start" are deliberate equivocation logical fallacies designed to create confusion and steal the opponents words leaving no way to counter argue.

equivocation = same word different meanings

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
35. True, but sperm and ovum will not survive long if they do not combine
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 03:29 PM
Sep 2021

To create a new entity. And that new entity is not viable for a pretty long time after that union.

I was just trying to throw a bit of levity into the mix. I have to laugh so I don't cry or rail against the idiocy in the world.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
37. They also do not survive long without the proper environment
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 03:53 PM
Sep 2021

and that environment is as a reproductive graft which is a part of a woman. They don't survive inside or outside her body unless they are a part of her body.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
36. Every one of the "women as inferior creatures" arguments.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 03:48 PM
Sep 2021

and the "anti womens rights" logical fallacies totally debunked.

Should be required Uni theology; philosophy; sociology; and bioethics? watching.

Guess he was right about the 'sanctity of life' thing.

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