I'm not sure the younger generation of women understands what the impact of overturning Roe will be.

[milestogo]

For many of us on this board we can remember when women were performing abortions on each other, going to back alley doctors, or carrying an unwanted pregnancy from rape or incest to term. We remember that there was a time when there was no choice.

When its banned, we are all going to have to fight, but the young women need to be a big part of that.

[kimbutgar]

1. I had an aunt that had a back alley abortion in the 50's and she never could have children

After that. She used to tell my sister and I we were lucky that birth control was accessible for us.

[Budi]

2. Clearly since it was never an urgent part of their cool media campaigns.

Not a clue, or they wouldn't have waited till today to begin campaigning on it for 2022.

I see they're all suddenly giving Biden their list of 'demands' as to how big a bandade he'll need & where to place it & demanding he cover up the gushing gaping wound they once ignored, with all their usual gusto & urgency.

Now that they drove the car off the cliff while they were busy posing on social media for 'likes', they come with the demand that 'Dad Fix This!!! Right now! Or else!

I now seriously doubt their ablility to manage a govt since their brilliant decision to 'burn it all down'.
Jeezus..

[hamsterjill]

3. K&R

This is a part of the issue. Apathy from younger women.

[Demsrule86]

4. I don't think it was apathy. Younger women never believed they would lose the right to

choose an abortion and/or birth control. They thought it was forever. I tried hard to explain to them that these right could disappear to no avail when campaigning over the years.

[hamsterjill]

5. You just defined apathy in my book.

They didn’t think the right would ever go away. All the while with the older generation of us screaming at the top of our lungs. To me, that is apathy.

[Claire Oh Nette]

13. More insidious...

Mothers failed to educate their daughters about how it used to be, when an unmarried pregnant woman had no rights. Couldn't have a job, couldn't rent an apartment, couldn't have a checking account...

1973 was not so long ago.

Roe prevented dead women.

The GOP and The Dominionist evangelical puritans want to punish poor women for having sex. They want more dead women because they fear and hate women.

Scratch the surface of many of those suburban mothers who are now becoming grandmothers, and you'll find an abortion in their closets. Choices for me, but not for thee....

[Autumn]

6. None of my female family members in Texas care.

But then their parents are all religious.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. They don't care until it effects them.

And they have to forgo starting a career or going to college to continue a pregnancy they don't want. Or god forbid they are raped and they are forced to carry the rapist's child to term and then be responsible for it's care.

[Autumn]

9. Their feeling are that it will never effect them. They all have children, most are divorced and some

of their kids are being raised by their parents. But they do pray a lot and trust their god. And the mega church pastor.

[Claire Oh Nette]

14. Bummer about the chemotherapy and radiation's effect on your pregnancy,

It's not just teenage girls.

Breast cancer strikes pre-menopausal women, as do many other life threatening conditions.

The Religious Right hates women.

[zuul]

8. I never knew either of my grandmothers because of botched abortions.

Both families were very poor and didn't think they could afford another child. Both of my grandmothers had a friend assist them in the home 'procedure.' They did it after the husbands had left for work. Both of my grandmothers bled out before a doctor was called.

My mother lost her mother when she was 4. She has no memory of her at all and only 2 photos. My dad lost his mother when he was 14.

It makes me want to cry to think that this is what our future will be.

[Metaphorical]

10. Short term, this is a disaster. Longer term, maybe not.

What I expect to happen in the wake of this is that red states will all follow suit over the course of the next few months, and abortion bounty hunters will become commonplace. However, beyond that, things get interesting:

1. Corporations, especially higher-paying technical corporations, will decamp from Red America en-masse as their female workforce effectively goes on strike.
2. Previously apathetic young women, in particular, will become very political, and likely become Democrats if they weren't already.
3. In the post-Covid, WFH era, expect to see the migration of workers out of red states if they can.
4. Delegalizing abortion has always brought Republicans to the polls in big numbers. I suspect that re-legalizing it will spur Democrats to the polls in the same way.
5. Once this does happen, I think that Congress will do what it has needed to do for a while - put together a comprehensive legal framework for reproductive rights. Roe v Wade has long been a very weak link on which to build the same.

[halfulglas]

11. If you want to blame them for apathy almost all of us are all guilty of that.

How many of us thought our voting rights would be threatened? Our other rights are threatened because so many people think they've been given to us, not rights we own. I remember during the drive for the Equal Rights Amendment other women didn't want to appear to be too pushy, it might hurt their careers. Make it look like they were against men. Things were getting better all along. It didn't have to be codified into an amendment for the constitution. Oh, yeah. Like in the 70's things were improving all the time. It was projected almost all work places would have company sponsored day care in the building to accommodate the working women, all kinds of "progress." But as soon as employers discovered they cost money and the crunch came with fluctuations in the economy all that disappeared.

The younger generation almost always think the status quo will not deteriorate and can only get better, but while we try to push ahead there are powerful forces with a lot of money not to mention emotion on the other side because sharing power means they lose some power and they unfortunately they've learned to play the long game.

Unfortunately some of the young women won't be in it yet because they aren't thinking the long game. They are in states that they think it can never affect them, but the majorities on the Court prove they're playing the long game, You see that with the rulings concerning pharmacists' ability to refuse to fill certain prescriptions. That happens in all states. We thought that was a small thing because we could always take it to another pharmacist. But even in a blue state small towns sometimes don't have another pharmacy. (Funny, I've never heard reports about a pharmacist refusing to fill a prescription for male "enhancement" pills.)

We also have to consider the not apathy but exhaustion of young women working 2 and sometimes 3 jobs, where you're lucky to catch the news, but most of the time you want a little mindless entertainment before you get some sleep and then start it all over again. You may visit your family on a Sunday and have to listen to a friend of the family assert that COVID is God's punishment for abortion. Even in blue states you hear some of that where even the guys mumble later that she's gone off the deep end. (But she votes.)

I know this is a bit rambling, but I'm angry because I was a young woman in the 60's. I remember when one of my coworkers panicked because she ran out of her BC pills and had sex the night before and she was desperately trying to get advice on what to do. There were the botched abortions performed by guys who if you were lucky had a year of med school. When I was in my teens, I had been babysitting and the father (a business man) drove me home and out of the blue told me he had a few years in medical school and if I never "needed help" he could hook me up with somebody.

[ananda]

12. So so true.

It was so bad before Roe v. Wade.

I hope this energizes all women and everyone
else too.

[Budi]

15. Oh the warnings were all out there being explained . They chose to piss it off.

Now they're demanding 'Establishment' Joe & Pelosi to fix it.